You still haven’t responded to my basketball handicapping question in the forum.

11 DB’s, no Aaron Williams.
Jordan Lake, but no Aaron Williams. Gotcha.

Doesn’t really speak well of “Big-Game” Bob’s coaching prowess if he rates so many players on the All-Big XII team yet only can manage a 7-5 record.

Let’s see: Nebraska rates four first-teamers on defense (including 2 DBs) with another on 2nd team). Meanwhile Texas rates only one first teamer (Earl Thomas), and no more DBs on the two-deep?

WTF, over?

This conference sucks ass – from the jealous ugly-stepsister coaches & ADs to the crappy media deals.

I’ll say this…did anybody think Jerrod Johnson would make 2nd team B12 before the year began, with McCoy, Bradford, Reesing, and Griffin returning, and TT reloading?

what is possibly more mind-numbingly stupid than the players who were snubbed was that earl thomas was not a unanimous selection. some moron thought he was not a first team defensive back.

I would like to bet everything I have on the 2nd team LBs against the 1st teamers in a 3-man Oklahoma drill. The fact that Daniel Howard scares coaches more than Acho is an indication of why Texas won the conference.

At least you don’t have to worry me potentially coaching all of that OU talent..

Lamarr Houston was better than Gerald McCoy this season. Houston had twice as many tackles and the same number of sacks. I guess Tommie Harris’ 25 tackle season is the standard up there?

If there were really 10 DBs in the conference better than Curtis Brown and Aaron Williams this year then farm animals must be casting ballots.

This happens every year though. I think Trips is the only one that takes them seriously because he makes side bets with Huckleberry (soon to be added to the FLB betting engine!)

These all-conference awards are more aimed at the hardworking-senior-who-shed-blood-for- the-program types. In addition a lot of these honors go those who live on reputation. Ex: Gerald McCoy, he was a preseason all american so he gets the nod over a lesser known guy like Houston. The big names always get the nod and watch the Thorpe award results, I guarantee you Eric Berry will win it because “HE’S ERIC BERRY!”.

Too funny. Jordan Lake is Blake Gideon without the speed.

The real puzzle is Prince Amukamara and Larry Asante on either list. They’re talented but streaky performers, and don’t have the numbers to be there.

Maybe someone thought Amukamara was related to Ndamukong?

Asante . . . . you got me. Maybe they were afraid of a seriously late hit?

This is a mixture of Big 8 solidarity, hating us for getting our way when the conference was formed, and the Stoops coaching tree.

A&M having an offensive lineman in the mix is laughable. I also love how they give out All-Conference awards to fullbacks in a league that really doesn’t have any. Thus, we get Jamie McCoy who is more TE than FB making second team. Props!

I am with uthookem and stuckinmn: WGAF?

These deals are designed to spread the love. Mack winning COTY and Colt winning OPOTY are good enough. Our poor defensive showing on Thanksgiving probably hurt our D a little, and OUs drubbing of OSU helped.

We’re never going to win a popularity contest with the Big 8 remnants. We pretty much control the conference from a winning, money, and power perspective. It’s like your little brothers giving you the finger.

I agree though, this has to go in the “does less with more” category for Stoops. It’s a win-win.

Trent Williams and Brody Eldridge were great!?!?

For once I will have to agree. Aaron Williams should have been on the team. Probably first team but certainly second team. As a sophomore there are three coaches in the North that have not seen him on the field. That along with the late season injury didn’t help.

On the other hand, would someone justify Ulatoski and Hall being even on the second team.

Would you rather have Ulatoski and Hall being pushed backwards into you by a would-be tackler or have Trent Williams recount the last few pages of New Moon, which he was reading while his man sacked you, as he helps you up from the turf?

Williams makes first team for his Twilight saga blogs.

panchoclaus, T Williams has nothing to do with the point I made. Bradford was hurt on a delayed LB blitz while Williams was locked on the DE. I don’t know who was responsible for the LB but it is a little too much to expect Williams to block two people. Bradford was re-injured on a corner blitz on the opposite side of the field. I guess by your thinking Williams was responsible for that too. A lot of us thought that the coaches should not have called a naked bootleg. Try watching the games.

Well, f me. I should read more carefully before posting.

Other news, FLA DE Dunlap passed out behind the wheel at an intersection. Cop tapped on the window, Dunlap briefly opened his eyes and passed back out.

The thing is, I can understand passing out at a RED light. It happened to me once in college. Passing out a green light is next level shit.

Just wondering I’ve heard this alot over the years, if we left the big 12 where would we go. Im sure it would never happen. It would be an interesting topic for hell of it.

Locked up in what way? You mean how Utah had the Sugar bowl locked up last year? OU had the Fiesta locked up the year before? Georgia had the Sugar bowl locked up when they played Va Tech?… I could keep going.

You must mean locked up in terms of winning the beauty contest.

RagingBCS_Homer – “Quit bitching and win all your games!”
Cincy/TCU/Boise/ect – “We DID do that…”
RagingBCS_Homer – “Quit bitching and schedule better teams!”
Cincy/TCU/Boise/ect – “We did. We’ve beaten Oregon/OrSU/OU/Bama…”
RagingBCS_Homer – “Fuck you! My team won a national title 20 years ago and we have a lot of money, so we’re better!”

Riiiiiight. That’s my point. If a playoff system is going to work, you’ll need to re-balance the conference. Otherwise, the #3 SEC or Big 12 or #2 PAC-10 team will always get in over smaller conference runners-up or some lesser conference champs. There just aren’t enough slots.

I personally think Utah got screwed last year. Other than that, I am not sure the games you point out make much of an argument against the BCS. Boise barely beat an OU team we throttled and Va Tech has never won anything. Maybe Miami’s resurgence and FSU coming back can prop the ACC back into the mix, but the Big East is done.

Um, unless you mean an actual live wolverine, then that’s just crazy talk.

OT: are we in an official recruiting visit window? We need to be using the ‘Stoops to ND’ meme for all it’s worth. All’s fair against those pigf***ers.

“Williams was blackballed by said coaches.”

I’m sure they held a deep grudge over having to see Landry Jones instead of Sam Bradford.

Makes sense.

“I’m sure they held a deep grudge over having to see Landry Jones instead of Sam Bradford. ”

Using that theory, he should be first team. They’re still sucking Bob Stoops’ ass, while being the beneficiaries of Bradford’s bad fortune.

I guess, did I see the maligned Aaron Williams on the field limping around with a heavily bandaged knee?

The paranoia on this blog is just incredible especially if there is an O and U mentioned. Trips original rant was that Aaron Williams should have been honored. I would completely agree. But completely ignore the fact that every one of your OL is on the All Conference team if you count the honorable mentions. You cannot make a case of any one of them.

Colt has bailed them out time after time with his runs. Your backs are in heavy traffic as soon as they get the handoff. They are the reason UT will be absolutely humiliated if you play Florida. I think we will see a preview of that this weekend but I doubt that NU has enough offense to win. I can’t keep from giggling when I think of your line trying to block Suh.

How many sacks did Florida give up this year, Switzer?

A fuckload more than last year. Both DLs would get after the QB. Colt has a lot more receiving options than Tebow.

My point is that UT was not slighted as a team as the OP said. Williams on, Hall and Ulatoski off if one is being objective. Net loss one guy. You keep coming up with Stoops conspiracy theories that are patently ridiculous.

Vasherized, you seem to be expanding the scope of this thread to Texas vs Florida which is more than I intended. My point was that your OL crumbles against good defenses. Florida has a damn good defense. So does Nebraska.

“Vasherized, you seem to be expanding the scope of this thread to Texas vs Florida”

Lacewell, you brought it up in your next to last post. You said Florida would humiliate Texas.

Nordberg, I did in the context of the UT OL vs the Fla DL. But, this thread is about the All-Conference team not the NC game. I didn’t mean to cloud the issue.

Patently ridiculous:

RUSHING Team Cl G Att Yds Avg TD Long Yds/G
11.Murray, DeMarco.. OU JR 7 96 379 3.9 4 15 54.1

Second team All-Conference Running Back. LOL

To clarify, the Big 12 gets more than its fair share of credit in the BCS system. I am all for that as long as everyone else stands pat. However, if I had a vote, I would prefer that we rebalance all the conferences in the name of competitiveness.

I would like to see us go back to the SWC and bring Arkansas. I would break up the SEC and add a couple of lower-level teams to the East and West respectively. For the Texas/Arkansas block you would have LSU/Alabama and UF/UGA in the respective parts of the SEC. Then you could have OU/Neb in the reformed Big 8. Move Penn State into the Big East and give one of the crummier teams to the Big 10. Pac-10 stays as is. Make ND play with the WAC or C-USA. ACC stands pat. That’s 9 good conferences, all with at least two top 25 programs.

SS, last year OU went to the CCG due to BCS ranking, rather than UT. Leach, Mangino, and Mike Stoops placed UT in an artificially low position on their respective ballots, considering record and strength of schedule, if I remember correctly.

The situation was ultimately our fault for not taking care of business in Lubbock; however, it is difficult to find fault with Texas fans when they see Stoops’ handiwork in a ‘conspiracy’.

BTW, Stoops name is still being listed on the ND list of candidates, per ESPN.

Hook ‘em!

I root for OU. Observations:
1. Trent Williams should not be on the page. Neither should anyone who played on the OL this year from OU.
2. Broyles was the only offense player that deserves an honor and 2nd team is OK for him.
3. Suh is deserving as POY, but I couldn’t ask for anything more from Beal. Can’t believe he’s not 1st team.
4. Franks was inconsistency cost OU dearly early in the year. Jackson was better.
5. There were no outstanding performances from OU LB’s this year.
My take for OU:
1st team: Beal, McCoy (hard to argue against it), Way
2nd team: Broyles, Jackson (both he and Williams were better than 3 of the 1st team DB’s)
So there, that’s 5 on the first and second team.
About the Knitting Circle, Mack needs to do a better job mentoring aspiring coaches.

Oh good god cry me a river you pussies. Has UT played a single team all year that is at full strength? UT has had the red carpet laid out for them due to a rash of injuries across the conference, and now you get a Big 12 north opponent for the conference championship game that lost to Iowa State by not scoring a single touchdown and you bitches are still crying about something?

Who cares who made the All-conference team? If your football program had a single ounce of character Kindle and Houston wouldn’t even be on the team for you to cry about getting snubbed. Just be thankful the rest of the conference laid down due to injuries and your coaches have no problem letting players who commit crimes win you ball games.

Was UT at full strength? They lost Brandon Collins and Christian Scott to grades and had a rash of injuries at TE and DT. I don’t hear Mack Brown crying about it. When is up by 5 TDs Mack puts in back ups to build depth while that classless jerk Stoops throws bombs with his starting QB. Looks like its come back to bite him in the ass. As for committing crimes OU leads the conference in that category. Hell, Stoop even gave a redshirt to one of those criminals. OU is a joke.

Yeah, we all know Mike Leach allows criminals to play for him. Just looked at all the DUI’s, and assults Tech has had during Leach’s tenure, and look at all the guys who have committed crimes that Leach allows to stay on the team.

Unlike Brown and Stoops, Leach has proven that he runs a clean program and won’t play criminals to get ahead. He’s doing things the right way and eventually it will pay off.

Yes, because getting busted for dealing in your hometown in New Mexico in a sting is the exact same thing as dealing out of your Lubbock apartment, and your roommate being involved. Of course De’Shon Sanders never stepped foot on a Tech football facility again, whereas at UT he would have been promoted to starter, and handled internally by Mack Brown.

Oh, in an interesting twist here is someone complaining about UT’s offensive line getting away with holding. Sound familiar?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/299452-big-12-powersthat-be-will-serve-up-13-0-longhorns-to-bcs-title-game

I can’t possibly imagine why anyone would not like you guys! Really, with your down home humility and kindness, you are so loveable.

Go watch the SEC all conference awards and read a Florida board. I’m sure you’ll be happier there. They have green grass!!!

It’s like a Rodney Dangerfield convention over here lately.

How much respect do you really need? Christ, you’re going to play in the NC game. Do we need to genuflect when the color orange passes? Do we need to pledge undying fealty to the families of McCoy and Shipley? Should the other 11 coaches wash Mack’s trotters?

Oh no, surely UT didn’t get away with holding Von Miller on every play. That would make you chimps sound like a bunch of whiny hypocrites, and that’s just not possible coming from the great, objective, people over here.

You are a joke. If an intentional one, then kudos. It’s really awesome. If not, wow.

We complained that the Big 12 didn’t call holding last year, which they didn’t. The Big 12 office admitted as much before this season when they stated to the media that holding would be a point of emphasis after member schools (gee, I wonder who that was?) complained about the lack of calls last year. We pointed out repeatedly that Texas Tech (particularly Rylan Reed) and Oklahoma (particularly Phil Loadholt) held our defenders, particularly Brian Orakpo, consistently and routinely without ever getting called. But we didn’t just say it, we actually provided pictorial evidence of the repeated rules violations which you, of course, ignored.

So, with all that in mind, please explain how Texas’ holding of Von Miller makes us hypocrites. I would love to hear this. Did Barking Carnival writers and readers hold Von Miller? No, the first time it was brought up by you over here, I admitted it occurred and pointed out that the lack of holding calls in the A&M game probably helped contribute to a 2008-style 49-39 final score.

Whether it’s as a well-executed satire of Texas Tech fans’ idiocy or as a wondrously dense moron, you are awesome either way. I appreciate you, for what it’s worth.

“Unlike Brown and Stoops, Leach has proven that he runs a clean program and won’t play criminals to get ahead.”

Has Leach kicked a player off a team for getting a DUI or DWI? If not, shut the fuck up.

Tech is a very easy school that is damn near impossible to fail out of, so you get to brag about high grad rates. Even though Leach takes more academic risks than any team in the Big 12 South, like:

Daniel Johnson
Leonard Hewitt
Michael Crabtree
Harrison Jeffers
Candygram for Mongo Ofa Mohetau
McKinner Dixon
Every single JUCO you take (which means they had worse grades and standardized test scores than any player on Texas’ roster since they could not qualify out of high school and Texas does not recruit JUCOs in football — and before you start, baseball and basketball are completely different as the recruits we take in those sports were full qualifiers out of high school, these recruits go JUCO because they weren’t recruited out of high school [basketball] or they wanted to keep their MLB draft options open)

Despite all the dumbasses Leach recruits, 90% “graduate” with a degree. Must be a challenging school.

I dont care about all conference, other than how it might affect the players.

I bet AJ would like the have had the honor. I guess playing on Jan 7 will have to suffice.

Gene, I’m with you on the complaining. Get over it. It comes with the territory.

“So, with all that in mind, please explain how Texas’ holding of Von Miller makes us hypocrites. I would love to hear this.”

Do you even understand the definition of a hypocrite?

houstonearlers what does Leach running a clean program, and not playing any players who have committed crimes have anything to do with his graduation rates? Sounds like you’re just trying to change the arguement because you know I’m right.

Dad – Come to be. You need to get up early to clean the toilets at school before the kids show up.

Huck FTW…”I’ll try to type more slowly” tee hee…

Timmeh, some of us actually watched all of UT’s games last year. Like, ALL of ‘em. Rewinded sometimes, even, to see why plays worked, or why they break down. I found myself on many an occasion staring at another flubbed block up the middle and wondering why Hall or Tanner didn’t hold more, since they were getting flat beat too much. Still wondering the same thing actually. Meanwhile, your beloved sand aggy blockers played like they had meat hooks surgically attached to their wrists and the refs clearly didn’t mind. We even have the pictures. So I’ll believe my own eyes before I believe your colicky bullshit whining.

But, and I really mean this, thank you. Please continue.