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		<title>By: The Guru</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/29/texas-vs-rice-post-mortem/comment-page-2/#comment-71746</link>
		<dc:creator>The Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be beneficial for him to play some zone to better utilize his length and to also help keep Dex out of foul trouble. He has done a pretty good job of staying on the floor but when he plays against some quality bigs i.e. North Carolina bigs or Kansas bigs, he almost undoubtedly will be in foul trouble. From what the coaching staff tells me they&#039;re concerned with Shawn&#039;s perimeter defense and his minutes are indicative of that. Playing more zone will allow him to get some more minutes theoretically. Barnes has been and always will be a man guy but I believe in adjusting to your personnel and I believe he has a team capable of causing some problems in a zone situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be beneficial for him to play some zone to better utilize his length and to also help keep Dex out of foul trouble. He has done a pretty good job of staying on the floor but when he plays against some quality bigs i.e. North Carolina bigs or Kansas bigs, he almost undoubtedly will be in foul trouble. From what the coaching staff tells me they&#8217;re concerned with Shawn&#8217;s perimeter defense and his minutes are indicative of that. Playing more zone will allow him to get some more minutes theoretically. Barnes has been and always will be a man guy but I believe in adjusting to your personnel and I believe he has a team capable of causing some problems in a zone situation.</p>
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		<title>By: kafka</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/29/texas-vs-rice-post-mortem/comment-page-2/#comment-71606</link>
		<dc:creator>kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guru:
Many thanks.

How probable is it (in your opinion) that Barnes starts playing more zone this season?  I think we start seeing more zone because it converts Dex and Jordan into assets on D and facilitates playing Dex, Jordan, Lucas and Shawn more minutes.  Barnes is exceptionally able at teaching his kids how to rebound in a zone D so that minimizes one of the biggest problems with playing zone.

I&#039;d like to see the horns switch between man D and a matchup zone D a few times per game because it would cause a bit of confusion for the opponent in knowing how to attack the horns&#039; D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guru:<br />
Many thanks.</p>
<p>How probable is it (in your opinion) that Barnes starts playing more zone this season?  I think we start seeing more zone because it converts Dex and Jordan into assets on D and facilitates playing Dex, Jordan, Lucas and Shawn more minutes.  Barnes is exceptionally able at teaching his kids how to rebound in a zone D so that minimizes one of the biggest problems with playing zone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the horns switch between man D and a matchup zone D a few times per game because it would cause a bit of confusion for the opponent in knowing how to attack the horns&#8217; D.</p>
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		<title>By: The Guru</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/29/texas-vs-rice-post-mortem/comment-page-2/#comment-71475</link>
		<dc:creator>The Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kafka I agree with everything u said. Coaches feel pressure to play the big name recruits for future recruiting and also because of media pressure, alumni pressure, fan pressure. That is exactly why he is getting the minutes that he is getting because like I said in one of my earlier posts all I heard from the coaching staff was how much he was struggling in practice. So like I said u r 100% right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kafka I agree with everything u said. Coaches feel pressure to play the big name recruits for future recruiting and also because of media pressure, alumni pressure, fan pressure. That is exactly why he is getting the minutes that he is getting because like I said in one of my earlier posts all I heard from the coaching staff was how much he was struggling in practice. So like I said u r 100% right.</p>
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		<title>By: The Guru</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/29/texas-vs-rice-post-mortem/comment-page-2/#comment-71472</link>
		<dc:creator>The Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I haven&#039;t mentioned the Williams kid in my last 3 0r 4 posts. It has nothing to do with that. Hamilton just has a ways to go before he is worthy of all this hype that he has gotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I haven&#8217;t mentioned the Williams kid in my last 3 0r 4 posts. It has nothing to do with that. Hamilton just has a ways to go before he is worthy of all this hype that he has gotten.</p>
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		<title>By: kafka</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/29/texas-vs-rice-post-mortem/comment-page-2/#comment-71453</link>
		<dc:creator>kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UNC fast break was awesome.  They were fast breaking on baskets made by MSU.  MSU was smaller and faster than UNC but UNC could fast break on them anyway.

Syracuse beat UNC by playing a zone.  Barnes might want to play some zone vs UNC.

Guru: Even if one assumes (for the sake of argument) that Shawn and Jordan are similar in ability, there is a perfectly logical explanation for why the small forward job is Jordan&#039;s to lose. Jordan is an elite recruit (IIRC, in the top 10).  One of the ways that Barnes is able to lure these elite recruits is that he showcases them.  Future possible UT elite recruits see this and commit to UT.  If one of Barnes&#039; elite recruits fails, this will hurt future recruiting so Barnes will do everything he can possibly do to make sure that elite recruits succeed (including Jordan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UNC fast break was awesome.  They were fast breaking on baskets made by MSU.  MSU was smaller and faster than UNC but UNC could fast break on them anyway.</p>
<p>Syracuse beat UNC by playing a zone.  Barnes might want to play some zone vs UNC.</p>
<p>Guru: Even if one assumes (for the sake of argument) that Shawn and Jordan are similar in ability, there is a perfectly logical explanation for why the small forward job is Jordan&#8217;s to lose. Jordan is an elite recruit (IIRC, in the top 10).  One of the ways that Barnes is able to lure these elite recruits is that he showcases them.  Future possible UT elite recruits see this and commit to UT.  If one of Barnes&#8217; elite recruits fails, this will hurt future recruiting so Barnes will do everything he can possibly do to make sure that elite recruits succeed (including Jordan).</p>
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		<title>By: The Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said the kid did not have NBA potential. Anybody with eyes can see that. All that I am saying is that this pedestal we have put him on is a little much.  FYI in &#039;03 Detroit already had  Tayshaun Prince as their starting small forward and you can make an argument that he is one better small forwards in the league. He has been an Olympian let&#039;s not forget. He was and is a better defender than Carmelo and Larry Brown was the head coach in Detroit at the time and we all know that he is a defense first head coach. Detroit needed size and Darko had a world of upside. Nobody got anything wrong it was about what Detroit needed at the time. As far as Oden and Durant are concerned. Portland also made the right pick based on what they needed. You almost always choose a talented big over a talented small. Great big guys are hard to find. Their will be more Carmelo&#039;s and Durant&#039;s that come along but potentially great 7 footers can be franchise difference makers. Oden is improving and Darko&#039;s confidence was broken by Brown and he has never lived up to his potential. Jordan is not in the same class as Durant or Melo. That&#039;s what I mean by putting him on a pedestal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said the kid did not have NBA potential. Anybody with eyes can see that. All that I am saying is that this pedestal we have put him on is a little much.  FYI in &#8216;03 Detroit already had  Tayshaun Prince as their starting small forward and you can make an argument that he is one better small forwards in the league. He has been an Olympian let&#8217;s not forget. He was and is a better defender than Carmelo and Larry Brown was the head coach in Detroit at the time and we all know that he is a defense first head coach. Detroit needed size and Darko had a world of upside. Nobody got anything wrong it was about what Detroit needed at the time. As far as Oden and Durant are concerned. Portland also made the right pick based on what they needed. You almost always choose a talented big over a talented small. Great big guys are hard to find. Their will be more Carmelo&#8217;s and Durant&#8217;s that come along but potentially great 7 footers can be franchise difference makers. Oden is improving and Darko&#8217;s confidence was broken by Brown and he has never lived up to his potential. Jordan is not in the same class as Durant or Melo. That&#8217;s what I mean by putting him on a pedestal.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="714785343">Blake Borron</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="714785343">Blake Borron</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am worried about our interior defense against UNC. Both Thompson and Davis are good athletes and have great post moves. They also are extremely smart players with high basketball IQ&#039;s. I would put James and Pittman especially far from the high hoops IQ department. I also think Pittman is a terrible post defender, at times. &quot;At times&quot; will hurt against the UNC bigs. A lot. I could see us getting absolutely worked in the post. I also have nightmares about our high post switching, especially with Dex trying to guard Davis. Ugh.

Their guard play went from a decided weakness to, at the very least, good, and seems to be evolving into a strength. Drew has been playing well the last few games. I was counting on his being a liability against our pressure. That may no longer be the case. Ginyard&#039;s range has extended, but he&#039;s still not a guy who&#039;s going to take over the game. Neither is Graves. Strickland could be that guy eventually, but I don&#039;t think he will be by Dec. 19. If UNC has a definite weakness, it&#039;s their ball handling. Our pressure defense should be able to force quite a few TOs, but we need to make sure we convert these into easy buckets instead of just re-turning the ball over (I.e. don&#039;t let Damion lead the break). We MUST capitalize on our breakaway opportunities. I could see Jordan&#039;s defense being a huge detriment to our team here because UNC has crafty guys on the perimeter who know how to play together and get easy buckets. He has to stay with his guy off the ball or he&#039;s going to get made a fool of and Barnes is going to pull him. 

One way that UNC dominates games that few people know about is their lethal secondary break set. Everybody knows how they love to push the ball (less so this year, but still), but where they really shine is the secondary break. Watch for it the next time you see the Heels play, it&#039;s a thing of beauty. They get the ball up the court and don&#039;t give the defense enough time to get set/find the man they are supposed to be guarding. The PG get the ball to the wing on the break. If this is shut down, UNC goes into secondary break mode. This is an automatic play they run almost automatically every time down the court if they are stopped in a transition-like sequence. The wing guard swings the ball back up to the post, who is at the top of the key (the guy that usually gets the rebound on the other end). The other post is already down low. The post at the top of the key then continues to swing the ball, before receiving a screen. Eventually, Carolina has both big men on the blocks and the near-side big man sets a cross screen for the far side post. The wing enters the ball and the big man usually has time to drop step and score before his man recovers from being picked. Also, because the defender is often late, he is prone to fouling for an &quot;and 1.&quot; They abused MSU with this play, especially with Ed Davis, and it&#039;s also what netted Hansbrough so many of his points over his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am worried about our interior defense against UNC. Both Thompson and Davis are good athletes and have great post moves. They also are extremely smart players with high basketball IQ&#8217;s. I would put James and Pittman especially far from the high hoops IQ department. I also think Pittman is a terrible post defender, at times. &#8220;At times&#8221; will hurt against the UNC bigs. A lot. I could see us getting absolutely worked in the post. I also have nightmares about our high post switching, especially with Dex trying to guard Davis. Ugh.</p>
<p>Their guard play went from a decided weakness to, at the very least, good, and seems to be evolving into a strength. Drew has been playing well the last few games. I was counting on his being a liability against our pressure. That may no longer be the case. Ginyard&#8217;s range has extended, but he&#8217;s still not a guy who&#8217;s going to take over the game. Neither is Graves. Strickland could be that guy eventually, but I don&#8217;t think he will be by Dec. 19. If UNC has a definite weakness, it&#8217;s their ball handling. Our pressure defense should be able to force quite a few TOs, but we need to make sure we convert these into easy buckets instead of just re-turning the ball over (I.e. don&#8217;t let Damion lead the break). We MUST capitalize on our breakaway opportunities. I could see Jordan&#8217;s defense being a huge detriment to our team here because UNC has crafty guys on the perimeter who know how to play together and get easy buckets. He has to stay with his guy off the ball or he&#8217;s going to get made a fool of and Barnes is going to pull him. </p>
<p>One way that UNC dominates games that few people know about is their lethal secondary break set. Everybody knows how they love to push the ball (less so this year, but still), but where they really shine is the secondary break. Watch for it the next time you see the Heels play, it&#8217;s a thing of beauty. They get the ball up the court and don&#8217;t give the defense enough time to get set/find the man they are supposed to be guarding. The PG get the ball to the wing on the break. If this is shut down, UNC goes into secondary break mode. This is an automatic play they run almost automatically every time down the court if they are stopped in a transition-like sequence. The wing guard swings the ball back up to the post, who is at the top of the key (the guy that usually gets the rebound on the other end). The other post is already down low. The post at the top of the key then continues to swing the ball, before receiving a screen. Eventually, Carolina has both big men on the blocks and the near-side big man sets a cross screen for the far side post. The wing enters the ball and the big man usually has time to drop step and score before his man recovers from being picked. Also, because the defender is often late, he is prone to fouling for an &#8220;and 1.&#8221; They abused MSU with this play, especially with Ed Davis, and it&#8217;s also what netted Hansbrough so many of his points over his career.</p>
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		<title>By: Trips Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trips Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UNC doesn&#039;t have an identity yet, but when they get one, look out.  They may be deeper than we are.</description>
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		<title>By: kafka</title>
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		<dc:creator>kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the UNC-MSU game, too.  UNC is ranked 11 but looked very good.  I was less impressed with MSU but somehow they hung in there vs UNC.  It will be really interesting to see how Dex does vs the UNC big men.  It will be interesting to see how many points UT scores on the UNC D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the UNC-MSU game, too.  UNC is ranked 11 but looked very good.  I was less impressed with MSU but somehow they hung in there vs UNC.  It will be really interesting to see how Dex does vs the UNC big men.  It will be interesting to see how many points UT scores on the UNC D.</p>
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		<title>By: kafka</title>
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		<dc:creator>kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guru:
How do you think Jordan will do this season for the horns?  Right now he is doing a lot of catch and shoot on offense.  Ev erybody agrees that he is an excellent shot, right?  Given that he is such a threat to shoot immediately after he catches the ball, his shot fakes will  be very effective, right?  It is dead simple to dribble past a defender who has left his feet in response to a shot fake.  If Jordan continues to be used as a guy who mostly does catch and shoot and handles the ball mostly after catch and shoot fakes, Isn&#039;t he almost guaranteed to be successful offensively this season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guru:<br />
How do you think Jordan will do this season for the horns?  Right now he is doing a lot of catch and shoot on offense.  Ev erybody agrees that he is an excellent shot, right?  Given that he is such a threat to shoot immediately after he catches the ball, his shot fakes will  be very effective, right?  It is dead simple to dribble past a defender who has left his feet in response to a shot fake.  If Jordan continues to be used as a guy who mostly does catch and shoot and handles the ball mostly after catch and shoot fakes, Isn&#8217;t he almost guaranteed to be successful offensively this season?</p>
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