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	<title>Comments on: Baseball:  Is it time to rethink our “National Pastime”?</title>
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		<title>By: Colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop messin&#039;, Moses. On a more serious note, I found this article quite scary because I happen to love baseball. I never really considered it boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop messin&#8217;, Moses. On a more serious note, I found this article quite scary because I happen to love baseball. I never really considered it boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Moishe Oishe oy oy oy oy Oishe Moishe oy oy oy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moishe Oishe oy oy oy oy Oishe Moishe oy oy oy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the fuck is Kate Hudson? I looked her up on-line. Her mom was a stripper way back when and with her influence helped her daughter &quot;make it&quot;. But I am very Yid-Yang.If Kate Hudson were to surgically pin back those notorious ears of hers maybe Pro Baseball will pull its ears way,way forward and listen to the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the fuck is Kate Hudson? I looked her up on-line. Her mom was a stripper way back when and with her influence helped her daughter &#8220;make it&#8221;. But I am very Yid-Yang.If Kate Hudson were to surgically pin back those notorious ears of hers maybe Pro Baseball will pull its ears way,way forward and listen to the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know its a boring game when you have has-been, self-obsessed celebrities like Kate Hudson (post nose job) using her mock relationship with A_Rod to spread rumors about herself and promote herself. People were thanking her when The Yankees won-why? What does she have to do with The World series? Maybe because the game is so boring. I enjoyed Werth&#039;s fish impersonation, but that was basically it. Football is where its at. I know The Barkers have nothing but respect for the game. Your article is excellent and I laughed out loud at the Tom Cruise reference. But all those innings...the commercials were better. One of your best articles, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know its a boring game when you have has-been, self-obsessed celebrities like Kate Hudson (post nose job) using her mock relationship with A_Rod to spread rumors about herself and promote herself. People were thanking her when The Yankees won-why? What does she have to do with The World series? Maybe because the game is so boring. I enjoyed Werth&#8217;s fish impersonation, but that was basically it. Football is where its at. I know The Barkers have nothing but respect for the game. Your article is excellent and I laughed out loud at the Tom Cruise reference. But all those innings&#8230;the commercials were better. One of your best articles, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome piece, bates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome piece, bates.</p>
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		<title>By: HenryJames</title>
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		<dc:creator>HenryJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;can&#039;t tell you who won the last couple of World Series&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/05/order-has-been-restored-to-the-universe/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Yankees won.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>can&#8217;t tell you who won the last couple of World Series</em></p>
<p><a href="http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/05/order-has-been-restored-to-the-universe/" rel="nofollow">The Yankees won.</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Bobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bateshorn, great article...   and re: baseball in the Old West - Bat Masterson&#039;s nickname came from his baseball prowess.

I used to absolutely love baseball - still have Bill James&#039; Baseball Prospectus from &#039;83 on - but somewhere along the line, it all just slipped away from me.  i haven&#039;t watched a game in years now, can&#039;t tell you who won the last couple of World Series, and don&#039;t find that I miss it at all.  And I&#039;m not even sure why.

When I cared, I never found the game boring - it rewards knowledge, the more you know about the sport, the more compelling and interesting the game is.  I think it was years of the baseball owners making it clear they&#039;d have preferred to buy an NBA franchise instead, and that they barely understood their own game, or what made it special.  I know that I have never been to a sporting event that was as exciting as being at Nolan&#039;s fifth no-hitter, and that no sport has an equivalent to a really good pennant race for sustained passion/despair.  But...  I&#039;ve found out that it only works if you actually care about the teams involved.  If you&#039;d told me that I&#039;d feel this way twenty years ago, I&#039;d have argued incessantly.  Who knew....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bateshorn, great article&#8230;   and re: baseball in the Old West &#8211; Bat Masterson&#8217;s nickname came from his baseball prowess.</p>
<p>I used to absolutely love baseball &#8211; still have Bill James&#8217; Baseball Prospectus from &#8216;83 on &#8211; but somewhere along the line, it all just slipped away from me.  i haven&#8217;t watched a game in years now, can&#8217;t tell you who won the last couple of World Series, and don&#8217;t find that I miss it at all.  And I&#8217;m not even sure why.</p>
<p>When I cared, I never found the game boring &#8211; it rewards knowledge, the more you know about the sport, the more compelling and interesting the game is.  I think it was years of the baseball owners making it clear they&#8217;d have preferred to buy an NBA franchise instead, and that they barely understood their own game, or what made it special.  I know that I have never been to a sporting event that was as exciting as being at Nolan&#8217;s fifth no-hitter, and that no sport has an equivalent to a really good pennant race for sustained passion/despair.  But&#8230;  I&#8217;ve found out that it only works if you actually care about the teams involved.  If you&#8217;d told me that I&#8217;d feel this way twenty years ago, I&#8217;d have argued incessantly.  Who knew&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: yojimbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>yojimbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people still watch baseball? i stopped watching after craig biggio and jeff bagwell ditched the game. what&#039;s the point when that douche bag in new york buying mercenary ringers every year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people still watch baseball? i stopped watching after craig biggio and jeff bagwell ditched the game. what&#8217;s the point when that douche bag in new york buying mercenary ringers every year?</p>
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		<title>By: texasengr</title>
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		<dc:creator>texasengr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up playing baseball as well. I was good at every other sport I played, but I loved pitching so much that I stuck with baseball through high school... 

I used to really love watching baseball. There were players I really cared about -- Cal Ripken Jr., Mike Mussina, etc. It just seems today, the game is so tainted with steroids that it&#039;s difficult to find players to root for. 

The steroid era and the negative attention it brought upon the game and the players, the lack of compelling playoff series in recent years, and the rapid rise of Dominican players have led to a game that many Americans simply find unwatchable. Even former baseball players. That’s bad. We call this the American pass time, but I have trouble finding American players to root for. Not that I try very hard. 

Check out the WBC USA roster if you don’t believe me. http://web.worldbaseballclassic.com/rosters/index.jsp?team=usa
Where are the American Super Stars of the 80’s and 90’s?

I&#039;ve thought to myself about how a shorter regular season and more playoff teams could help the game, but that really hurts the &quot;history&quot; aspect of it since statistical records will no longer be even remotely within reach. The game is fundamentally broken and I don&#039;t know how to fix it. I look forward to the next installment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up playing baseball as well. I was good at every other sport I played, but I loved pitching so much that I stuck with baseball through high school&#8230; </p>
<p>I used to really love watching baseball. There were players I really cared about &#8212; Cal Ripken Jr., Mike Mussina, etc. It just seems today, the game is so tainted with steroids that it&#8217;s difficult to find players to root for. </p>
<p>The steroid era and the negative attention it brought upon the game and the players, the lack of compelling playoff series in recent years, and the rapid rise of Dominican players have led to a game that many Americans simply find unwatchable. Even former baseball players. That’s bad. We call this the American pass time, but I have trouble finding American players to root for. Not that I try very hard. </p>
<p>Check out the WBC USA roster if you don’t believe me. <a href="http://web.worldbaseballclassic.com/rosters/index.jsp?team=usa" rel="nofollow">http://web.worldbaseballclassic.com/rosters/index.jsp?team=usa</a><br />
Where are the American Super Stars of the 80’s and 90’s?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought to myself about how a shorter regular season and more playoff teams could help the game, but that really hurts the &#8220;history&#8221; aspect of it since statistical records will no longer be even remotely within reach. The game is fundamentally broken and I don&#8217;t know how to fix it. I look forward to the next installment.</p>
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		<title>By: bateshorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>bateshorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet.  Thanks for the props.  Apparantly the internet hates me, because my first reply disappeared into the ether of the interwebs.

The little league thing is interesting and something I intend to look at, and I&#039;ll do my best to look at TV deals, although Baseball is a bit schizophrenic, since the individual teams have their own deals and networks (NESN, and Heidi Watney&#039;s exquisite, um, reporting.)  And I have the internet skills of a mildly retarded vole. 

I would note that Baseball was played widely during the Civil War by soldiers as a form of recreation, particularily on the Union Side, so it was likely played in the West during the Indian wars as well.  Given that the vast bulk of the nation&#039;s population was in the East, it&#039;s not surprising that&#039;s where the teams came from, although the first professional team was actually in Cincinnati.  Plus, you&#039;d be hard pressed to recognize organized professional baseball in the 1870&#039;s by any standard we&#039;d be used to.  It existed, but I doubt the &quot;Indian Killer Daily Standard&quot; carried a lot of box scores. 

I would note Football, the great god of Texas Sports, was clearly invented amongst New England Private colleges and formalized at Yale in the 1870&#039;s by Walter Camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet.  Thanks for the props.  Apparantly the internet hates me, because my first reply disappeared into the ether of the interwebs.</p>
<p>The little league thing is interesting and something I intend to look at, and I&#8217;ll do my best to look at TV deals, although Baseball is a bit schizophrenic, since the individual teams have their own deals and networks (NESN, and Heidi Watney&#8217;s exquisite, um, reporting.)  And I have the internet skills of a mildly retarded vole. </p>
<p>I would note that Baseball was played widely during the Civil War by soldiers as a form of recreation, particularily on the Union Side, so it was likely played in the West during the Indian wars as well.  Given that the vast bulk of the nation&#8217;s population was in the East, it&#8217;s not surprising that&#8217;s where the teams came from, although the first professional team was actually in Cincinnati.  Plus, you&#8217;d be hard pressed to recognize organized professional baseball in the 1870&#8217;s by any standard we&#8217;d be used to.  It existed, but I doubt the &#8220;Indian Killer Daily Standard&#8221; carried a lot of box scores. </p>
<p>I would note Football, the great god of Texas Sports, was clearly invented amongst New England Private colleges and formalized at Yale in the 1870&#8217;s by Walter Camp.</p>
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		<title>By: uthookem</title>
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		<dc:creator>uthookem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck yeah!  We now have a baseball version!

Tech - Tim
Shawn Williams - iPowers
Coolest guy on the planet - Clipper Cooper
Baseball - Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck yeah!  We now have a baseball version!</p>
<p>Tech &#8211; Tim<br />
Shawn Williams &#8211; iPowers<br />
Coolest guy on the planet &#8211; Clipper Cooper<br />
Baseball &#8211; Jay</p>
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