Comments on: The Cynic’s Guide To The 2009 Heisman Race http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/ Texas Longhorns and sports Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:28:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: lost soul http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-73696 lost soul Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:26:36 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-73696 How about the fact that Ingram had 30 yards on 16 carries against Auburn? Consistency in all of their big games? Not so much. This award should go to Gerhart, but all of the voters wouldn't dare vote for a player on a team with 4 losses... Thus the Heisman will not be relevant this year. Who cares. How about the fact that Ingram had 30 yards on 16 carries against Auburn? Consistency in all of their big games? Not so much. This award should go to Gerhart, but all of the voters wouldn’t dare vote for a player on a team with 4 losses… Thus the Heisman will not be relevant this year. Who cares.

]]> By: Art Vandelay http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-68593 Art Vandelay Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:02:33 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-68593 I honestly think Colt will win. This is the perfect career achievement year. He will have more wins than any other QB (that's enough for a lot of folks), add in the ridiculous completion percentage (another record), the respect of current and former players (including rivals), and some potential sub conscious sympathy votes from the BCS screw job from last season. Colt wins, and will win by a larger margin than you think. Mark it down. I honestly think Colt will win. This is the perfect career achievement year.

He will have more wins than any other QB (that’s enough for a lot of folks), add in the ridiculous completion percentage (another record), the respect of current and former players (including rivals), and some potential sub conscious sympathy votes from the BCS screw job from last season.

Colt wins, and will win by a larger margin than you think. Mark it down.

]]> By: Homesick Alien http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67821 Homesick Alien Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:03:56 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67821 Ingram will win. He comes the closest to meeting the litany of ambiguous criteria used by the Downtown Athletic Commission through the years. We'll forget about him the way we've forgotten about so many others through the years. I'd vote for Suh. To me, he's the Most Outstanding Player, pure and simple. But just like way more than half of Division I's teams begin the year not actually playing for the championship, way more than half of Division I's players begin the year not actually playing for the Heisman. Mostly, this would be a good year for the DAC to say, "Vince, truly, humbly, sincerely, we cocked that up a few years back. For real right? Here, take this." Ingram will win. He comes the closest to meeting the litany of ambiguous criteria used by the Downtown Athletic Commission through the years.

We’ll forget about him the way we’ve forgotten about so many others through the years.

I’d vote for Suh. To me, he’s the Most Outstanding Player, pure and simple.

But just like way more than half of Division I’s teams begin the year not actually playing for the championship, way more than half of Division I’s players begin the year not actually playing for the Heisman.

Mostly, this would be a good year for the DAC to say, “Vince, truly, humbly, sincerely, we cocked that up a few years back. For real right? Here, take this.”

]]> By: nordberg http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67770 nordberg Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:40:36 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67770 The Heisman has been a career achievement award for many, many players who didn't have careers as good as Colt's. It would be typical if that suddenly changed now, in a year where there aren't a lot of good options. Tebow already has one and Ingram, while a quality back, isn't really "Heisman good" (question, who would you rather have on your team, Mark Ingram or Jamaal Charles circa 2007?). The Heisman has been a career achievement award for many, many players who didn’t have careers as good as Colt’s. It would be typical if that suddenly changed now, in a year where there aren’t a lot of good options. Tebow already has one and Ingram, while a quality back, isn’t really “Heisman good” (question, who would you rather have on your team, Mark Ingram or Jamaal Charles circa 2007?).

]]> By: Scipio Tex http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67750 Scipio Tex Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:40:44 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67750 magnus - I live in a hipster-free neighborhood. We set claymore mines around our perimeter like Charlton Heston in The Omega Man. magnus –

I live in a hipster-free neighborhood. We set claymore mines around our perimeter like Charlton Heston in The Omega Man.

]]> By: magnusbleuveigner http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67744 magnusbleuveigner Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:38:22 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67744 Why the fuck do you live in S.F. if you despise hipsters? That's like moving to Hawaii because you hate surfers. Shipley. Why the fuck do you live in S.F. if you despise hipsters? That’s like moving to Hawaii because you hate surfers.

Shipley.

]]> By: Bateshorn http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67741 Bateshorn Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:47:39 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67741 Suh is deserving, but ain't going to get it in that he doesn't have the eye popping stats Casey Hampton had or some guady Sack statistic. Ingram is a good, but not superlative running back, again worthy of the discussion, but he hasn't been dropping 200 yard games with regularity to make the sportscenter crowd properly horny. Which leaves McCoy and Tebow and the fact that this year will probably be a lifetime achievement award. Which augers well for McCoy, since Tebow already has one. But I think to make the voters feel more at ease, somebody in Belmont is going to have to convince Mack to run up the score on somebody to pad McCoy's statistics. Otherwise, they may buy Scip's argument about the OU game and hand it to Ingram as a default. Tebow, even in his elevated holy state, has sucked all year and is going to make it hard for anyone to argue his case. Suh is deserving, but ain’t going to get it in that he doesn’t have the eye popping stats Casey Hampton had or some guady Sack statistic. Ingram is a good, but not superlative running back, again worthy of the discussion, but he hasn’t been dropping 200 yard games with regularity to make the sportscenter crowd properly horny.

Which leaves McCoy and Tebow and the fact that this year will probably be a lifetime achievement award. Which augers well for McCoy, since Tebow already has one. But I think to make the voters feel more at ease, somebody in Belmont is going to have to convince Mack to run up the score on somebody to pad McCoy’s statistics. Otherwise, they may buy Scip’s argument about the OU game and hand it to Ingram as a default. Tebow, even in his elevated holy state, has sucked all year and is going to make it hard for anyone to argue his case.

]]> By: topo gigio http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67723 topo gigio Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:15:31 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67723 i'm with you on ther Spiral Out. I want Colt and the horns coming into that game with lots of talk about the REAL national championship game being the SEC title game. I also don't want the burden of the heisman on Colt. He had that earlier in the year and it wasn't working so well for us. i’m with you on ther Spiral Out. I want Colt and the horns coming into that game with lots of talk about the REAL national championship game being the SEC title game. I also don’t want the burden of the heisman on Colt. He had that earlier in the year and it wasn’t working so well for us.

]]> By: tbone http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67709 tbone Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:27:53 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67709 Nothing proves better that the Heisman is joke than the fact that Troy Smith has one and Vince Young doesn't. That said, I'm with mac. Nothing proves better that the Heisman is joke than the fact that Troy Smith has one and Vince Young doesn’t. That said, I’m with mac.

]]> By: SpiralOut http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/11/15/the-cynics-guide-to-the-2009-heisman-race/comment-page-1/#comment-67701 SpiralOut Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:42:58 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/?p=12914#comment-67701 The Heisman is a joke. Period. Colt far and way deserved it last year and got screwed because of Blake Gideon and Bob Stoops running up the score on terrible teams. That being said, I don't want Colt to win it. While I feel he does deserve an award for his play for this team, the Heisman is only about 1000x worse than the Madden Curse. Almost every guy that wins that stupid award goes on to suck in the NFL. That guy's team almost always ends up losing in their bowl game, too. Only Leinart has overcome that in the past decade and it took facing the worst BCS team in history to get it done. Let whomever wins the SEC championship game win the award. And then let the Horns and Colt go mudhole them in the title game. Then Colt can laugh in their face while the confetti falls just like Vince did. The Heisman is a joke. Period.

Colt far and way deserved it last year and got screwed because of Blake Gideon and Bob Stoops running up the score on terrible teams.

That being said, I don’t want Colt to win it. While I feel he does deserve an award for his play for this team, the Heisman is only about 1000x worse than the Madden Curse. Almost every guy that wins that stupid award goes on to suck in the NFL. That guy’s team almost always ends up losing in their bowl game, too. Only Leinart has overcome that in the past decade and it took facing the worst BCS team in history to get it done.

Let whomever wins the SEC championship game win the award. And then let the Horns and Colt go mudhole them in the title game. Then Colt can laugh in their face while the confetti falls just like Vince did.

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