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Tracking Baylor, Foresight Wizardy, & Other Quickies

Posted by CloseToJumping on September 7th, 2009 under Football


The Briles Baylor Bears Bowl March

Well, I promised a Baylor update every week, whether my prediction of 8-4 begins to look like an absurdity or not. I am always happy to eat crow and be mocked, as I gladly return that when I can. Well, today is more me mocking than anything, so imagine me typing this post with my bare ass pointed at your face,… unless you agreed with me.

Baylor is now 1-0. When I wrote this thread, I figured a victory over Wake could happen, but I also felt like I could get Baylor to 8-4 without it. I called it a close loss, and if Baylor won, well, 8-4 was going to look pretty damned good. Now I am worried that 8-4 isn’t enough. OK, kidding.

If anyone watched the Baylor game, they saw some impressive and some typical things. They looked really good at times. Their defense played well for the most part. Wake had a bunch of returning offensive starters, so holding them to 21 points, 14 of which came late 3rd/into the 4th, is impressive. What was easy to notice was Baylor’s impact on the Wake running game, and their ability to affect Wake’s game plan offensively. Phil Taylor or whatever his name is, the dude from Penn State, is legit. The rest of the D is too.

Offensively, Baylor was creative but not smooth. They looked a little stilted at times, but they played well enough to win, for sure.

What’s typical in this kind of situation is that Baylor looked like they didn’t really understand how to win the game. They hit the brakes and did little in the 4th, basically hoping for time to hurry up and run out. There were some moments late where it looked like Wake had a prayer of pulling it off. Baylor did make a stand to get the ball back late in the game to seal it, and I actually breathed a sigh of relief. Not because I like Baylor (I don’t, really), but it looked like a good win for the Big 12 and because I predicted them to win 8 games so I could run amok on fan sites. The scariest moment in the game to me was when Kevin Steele made an attempt to break into the press box as Baylor was about to take a snap to win the game. By all appearances, he was on the verge of calling a dive up the middle, to “set a tone” for a new attitude with this Baylor program. Grant Teaff ended up conjuring the Lord, who then smote Steele, and Baylor was able to finish the win in peace.

Moving On …

I posted about the return of DJ Monroe in early July on the BC site here and the ShaggyBevo site in a thread here. I hoped he’d get some looks in a Romance Taylor kind of way, without being a Romance Taylor kind of thug. While it was roundly ignored here (perhaps because there was a post up around that time by someone discussing the size of Shawn Williams ankles or HenryJames’ default rate on his loans), it was mocked by some fucktards and understood by others on one of my other favorite boards, SB. Beyond the superficial self-aggrandizement, I glory in the play of Monroe on Saturday, simply because it’s not something that can’t be ignored by the staff. The guy is a home run threat, he needs at least 10 touches a game. We’ve got no one else like him.

Chris Whaley is going to redshirt this year, after clocking in at over 30 pounds beyond a playable TB weight. He either gets his shit together and drops a bunch of weight by spring ball, or he’s moved to TE or DE or transfers. You can ponder otherwise, but I don’t need a slide rule to figure it out. I also didn’t simply divine that thought. Good call by Mack Brown though. Not taking Christine Michael, who had a big day for ATM on Saturday and spent an entire week at Texas’ summer camp last year hoping for an offer, because you promised Whaley he’d be your only TB in the class is really starting to look good.

People really believed that the entirety of the Okie State success last year on offense was based on Brandon Pettigrew’s contributions. Perhaps not. Okie State looked very good against Georgia, and that pleased me, as I enjoyed discussions on the matter in the offseason. The defense looked solid, although we’ll see how Bill Young handles the Big 12 spreads with 3 LBs on the field. Regardless, how hard is it, really, to determine that Georgia is going to be a good but not great team this season? When talent at critical positions falls off the face of the earth, such as QB, TB, and WR, teams are going to struggle against a good D. Joe Cox is not good. There is no way to spin it. He is a mediocre SEC QB which makes him a backup in the Big 12. AJ Green was the only target on the field worth a damn. The Samuels guy will be really good later this year. Trent Sturdivant going down to an injury shocked no one but his parents. Okie State appears to be able to find big, powerful TEs that can catch as though they’re growing on trees. Find out who they are recruiting at that spot for next year’s class and go ahead and poach him.

Dan Hawkins is honestly dumber than a bag of Lehman Brothers with his behavior regarding the QB position at CU. Not only is he playing his son, but it isn’t hard to ponder the concept that his desire to play his son might be impacting his recruiting at that position as well. They have nothing at QB. Cody Hawkins gets more tips than a table dancing stripper. When he wasn’t having batted down at the LOS, he was throwing worm burners. He’s easily the worst QB in the Big 12 and one of the worst in all of the BCS conferences. That wasn’t CU’s only problem, but it was the most obvious. Darell Scott, thank God for unanswered prayers, finished with 1 carry for 1 yard. He looked worse than that when he was returning kicks or trying to catch a screen, seriously. I don’t see how CU wins more than 4 games this season. I expect Colorado and Illinois to be in a race to see who can fire their HC the fastest as soon as the final whistle on their seasons blows.

I was wrong on Missouri, happily. I thought they’d get rolled by Illinois and wind up with a losing record. Instead, they played really well and Gabbert and Missouri are being talked up pretty well by people that saw the game. The Big 12 North could be weird. 3 good teams in KU, Nebraska, and Missouri, and 3 absolutely terrible teams, in Colorado, Iowa State, and Kansas State. Kansas State damn near lost to Massachusetts, who had a drive going late for the win. Wow.

I was also very wrong on Bama. I thought they’d be an 8-4 team this year, but that defense is outstanding. I could see them going 12-1 to 10-3, but less than that would surprise me.

The Big 12 going 10-2 with some strong wins is cool.

I watched the LSU/UW game to close out Saturday, and I was impressed with UW’s effort. They look like a team that could win 4-5 games this year. LSU and Miles amaze me. They ooze with talent at most positions. Apparently, you can swing a dead cat in Louisiana and find a DL that can beat ass and become a 1st round pick. I envy that. Still, Miles is just shockingly bad at strategy. Bob Davies hammered this home the entire evening, but anyone reading this board likely saw the same thing if they watched – Dude, Les, you have an obvious talent advantage at the WR position to their DBs, how about throwing the ball to them occasionally? Good grief, they attempted like 9 passes in the first half +. Call another TO on a change of possession for us, Les, just to seal up your jugheadery for us.

Bob Griese opened his thoughts calling the OSU/Navy game with something to the effect of “The Navy QB is going to have to play well for Navy to have a chance in this game”. He then pulled that “strategic insight” out as a repeated item throughout the game. He actually gave himself credit late in the game for pointing that out before the game started. Awesome. So let us get this straight, man. You’re telling us, the viewer at home, that a QB of an offense that runs the Flexbone and is directly responsible for the yardage within that offense on roughly 85% of the snaps needs to play well for the huge underdog, on the road at the Shoe, to have a chance to win? That guy is in the twilight of a mediocre career as a sportscaster and I will be happy to see him go.

With all of the talk about OSU’s play against Navy, I watched virtually that whole game and empathized a bit. It reminded me of Texas at times when we can’t pull away from a less than terrific opponent. They were up by double digits for much of the game and seemed destined to pull away at some point, but they kept letting them hang around. Navy is a decent club and they didn’t show up just to show up, so the game turned into just that, a game. USC is probably a favorite in that game coming up, but OSU is better than what they showed against Navy. I think USC and OSU are both 3 loss teams this year and USC’s game against SJSU is getting too much credit. They can’t just plan to run all over OSU the way they did against SJSU.

I’d post things on OU, but I have something else almost finished on that one for later.

Thoughts?

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  1. One thing I forgot to mention in thr original post that is interesting to me – Virginia.

    I’ve been making fun of Al Groh and the Virginia team’s cheer/motto of “ACC Champs!!!” from the summer of 2007 for the past few years with my gamewatching buddies. Everytime we see them or their score when we’re at a sports bar watching games, the inevitable “ACC CHAMPS!!” cheer is broken out by someone. Then we discuss the apparent threat of suffering that same team’s fate in Laramie, where they opened their 2007 season and ended their chants to a 35-3 loss against Wyoming.

    How has Al Groh held his job for the last 2 seasons? He should have been fired on a number of different occasions. Virginia is not exactly a pushover as a football program. They’re a better program than Al Groh deserves, to be sure. The loss to William & Mary has to have fans of that school attempting to summon the ghost of George Welsh out of desperation.

    My guess is that Virginia could well beat CU and Illinois to the punch in the Head Coach Firing Contest.

  2. Nice post CTJ. The Big XII going 10-2 impressed me on the weekend.

    Hook ‘em!

  3. emmettfitzhume said:

    September 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Didn’t see the game, but TTech didn’t look particularly good. Potts threw 3 ints, and they only managed to rush for 40yds against North Dakota.

  4. CU is exactly the same team it was last year. The announcers kept insisting that Scott had to get more carries, but it’s pretty clear that Stewart is a much better option. Still, as long as Cody is running the point, the offense will never be a threat.

    Re Groh – he’s been almost fired for the last couple years. Even when UVA had that weird year when they won every game by 2 points, the UVA faithful were badmouthing him. The W&M loss – how embarrassing! – should grease the skids. Looks like Ron Prince will be looking for a job again soon….

  5. Yeah, emmitt, I don’t think the Tech game is going to be pretty for Tech, happily.

  6. beatendeadhorse said:

    September 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I thought Oklahoma State looked rather weak on offense. Dez Bryant is this years Crabtree and Kendall Hunter is pretty good but they have no one else that is a threat. I think without Pettigrew they’ve regressed from last year’s offense. Robinson might scramble for a first down but he isn’t going to take it the distance. Their defense looked somewhat better than last years and they still hit hard. I’m not as worried as I was before Saturday.

  7. While Willingham was otherwise digging a deep, deep, deep hole into which he threw the UW Huskies program, he did manage to recruit some good offensive talent. UW’s problem this year will be its defense, and I was stunned that LSU didn’t take advantage of it. I thought UW might score 23 or 24 points, but I thought LSU would match that with 55 or so. Unbelievable.

  8. Perfection. The rumbles of last minute apprehension created by Steele’s presence almost made me vomit from laughter.

    I look forward to reading one of your posts without trepidation of your ass being threateningly hurled in my direction.

  9. CTJ I bow to your prescience–I saw the Wake game as a loss for Baylor on the way to a 6-6 season.

    I’ll hold off on praising the Alabama defense: they’re obviously nails, but I don’t think Beamer had a particularly strong offense or game plan for this one.

  10. well, the Wake win makes my 9-3 look kinda solid right now…

    indeed, excellent insights around the horn.

  11. I look forward to reading one of your posts without trepidation of your ass being threateningly hurled in my direction.

    You can cross CTJ off your list then. There are still 120 more on it.

  12. I thought Georgia was going to roll Okie State before the game and after they took the opening kickoff right down the field and scored, I was feeling pretty good about my wager. Then the Cowboys hit a big play and realized they could hang and that was that in a brand new stadium against a ranked team.

    I’ll also say, however, that had the refs not called that RIDICULOUS roughness penalty in the fourth quarter, Georgia was still in the game and slowly getting the momentum back. I understand all the BS about not letting kids get hurt, but if your quarterback is going to sail the ball high over the middle into nickel coverage (I think) there should be consequences. Isn’t that a traditional measure of a “good” quarterback – protecting your receivers? Every year they slowly take one more little piece of football away from us and in twenty years I swear we’ll be playing two handed touch in pads.

    Also agree with you about Bama – I bet against them last year against an ACC opponent on opening day, too, and got clobbered, so I hope I get a third chance not to make the same mistake next year.

  13. ugh… not gonna lie, I was not real happy to see missery play as well as they did against the big11… the race to be the sacrificial lamb to the south just got more interesting. my 2 pesos.

  14. I’m not going to down play Alabama. Nick Saban may be the spawn of the devil himself, but he can coach. Having said that Tyrod Taylor and Beamer’s offense are not good, so let’s make Alabama go on a couple of more dates before we agree to let them come back for a drink.

  15. DJ was awesome. I was really looking forward to see how they would use him and was not disappointed. When I first saw him on the huge return, I thought he just ran straight up the field. When I looked at his return subsequently, I could see that he was setting things up with somewhat subtle direction changes (the way Jamaal did). Mack is talking about using DJ as a gunner on punt/kickoff coverage. I don’t really like that idea and would prefer that DJ just get more touches on offense. Mack said that the hard part of playing DJ at TB is that he cannot protect Colt very well as a pass blocker.

    I completely agree with Mack recruiting Whaley but what never made sense was not recruiting any other TBs. There was always a good chance that Whaley would grow out of TB into a TE or DE. The Michael story makes me sick.

    Besides Dez Bryant, OkState’s offense was not that impressive but I guess part of that was Georgia’s defense. OkState’s defense was a lot better than I anticipated but maybe part of that was Georgia’s pedestrian offense.

  16. I’m not convinced about Bamas oline yet. The d however surpassed even my lofty expectations.

  17. outragedcoloradofan said:

    September 9th, 2009 at 5:52 am

    You overestimate Dan Hawkin’s intelligence
    I do have to take issue with your statement about Darrell Scott “trying to carch a screen.”
    He did a pretty amazing job reeling in a poorly thrown ball……………………by guess who?
    Is there a reason you have the Baylor beat?

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