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Thoughts on the First Round of the NBA Draft
Posted by Trips Right on June 26th, 2009 under Basketball
Look, I hate the NBA. But because of its ties to the college game, the draft is arm’s length enough for me to post on it. Kinda like the Rockets I suppose but that’s more local interest than anything else. Also I’d be remiss if I didn’t give credit to my true muses on the subject. The Astros suck, the Horns get taken behind the woodshed by L$U, and my boredom arguing about the merits of eugenics with an asshat on Orangebloods. Speaking of eugenics, how about a tip of the cap for Huck covering the CWS. Guy’s a witch. A switch hitting witch. No double entendre intended. Seriously, aside from his team chemistry takes, he’s legit. He could be the John Nash of baseball. HenryJames has a good piece on the future of Longhorn Baseball. Anyway, on to the draft.
1. Los Angeles Clippers select Blake Griffin (PF, Oklahoma)
Meh. Safe pick. Can he guard or is he willing to guard? Can he learn to face up bigger fours and not rely on brute strength so much? If so, he compares favorably to Karl Malone, because his athletic skills are apparent. If he can’t, he’s Clarence Weatherspoon.
2. Memphis Grizzlies select Hasheem Thabeet (C, Connecticut)
His size/athleticism ratio is off the charts. His willingness or unwillingness to fine tune his offensive game make this a risky pick but I understand the gamble. Teach him a little jump hook to go along with a power pivot game and he’s a difference maker on both ends. If not, he’s Dikembe Mutombo, and who doesn’t want to sex Mutombo?
3. Oklahoma City Thunder select James Harden (SG, ASU)
I absolutely love this cat’s explosiveness which is tailor made for the NBA game. He can be a left handed Brandon Roy if he can be consistent from deep. Flank him with Westbrook and Kevin Durant and he’ll wreck shit. Perfect pick for Okie.
4. Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans (SG, Memphis)
He’s Derrick Rose light. Not as good a shooter as Rose and not as polished a point guard. Rubio should have been the pick, and I hate Euros.
5. Minnesota Timberwolves select Ricky Rubio (PG, Spain)
Call him the Professor. Give him The Helicopter and Half Man Half Amazing and he’ll do alright. Put him on a Timberwolves squad in the role of scorer and he’ll struggle. Weird pick considering the Wolves next pick…
6. Minnesota Timberwolves select Jonny Flynn (PG, Syracuse)
Lightning quick PG with suspect range. Maybe Flynn, Rubio, and Lawson can 3 man weave the fuck out of teams.
7. Golden State Warriors select Stephen Curry (PG, Davidson)
Quick, get this cat one of Minnesota’s PG’s asap. He’s a scoring guard that needs to be off the ball to excel. But go ahead and call him a point guard because he gets his game from his mother. I’m not sure he’s strong enough to be on the ball for 30+ minutes a game in the League without wearing down. Needs to hit the weights.
8. New York Knicks select Jordan Hill (PF, Arizona)
Sweet. Another Marcus Camby. Congrats. At least he’s not Lou Roe. I hate this pick.
9. Toronto Raptors select DeMar DeRozan (SG, USC)
Probably the biggest beta in the draft. He could be the next Mitch Richmond or the next Harold Miner.
10. Milwaukee Bucks select Brandon Jennings (PG, Italy)
Love him. He’s got elite quickness and can get anywhere on the floor with the dribble. I like him better than Flynn and Evans.
11. New Jersey Nets select Terrence Williams (SG, Louisville)
Williams is a terrific defender, but I worry about his ability to get his own shot against the athletes in the NBA. It’s a ballhandlers league and that’s not one of Williams’ strong suits.
12. Charlotte Bobcats select Gerald Henderson (SG, Duke)
Uber athletic kid with a legit deep stroke and a Duke pedigree, what’s not to like? Not your typical Duke system kid. You know he’ll defend and rebound, but he’s got some streetball in him which sets him apart from other Dukies not named Corey Maggette.
13. Indiana Pacers select Tyler Hansbrough (PF, North Carolina)
Huge reach. Call him Christian Laetner light and not because he’s white. He’ll be a role player from the get go unless he develops a perimeter game or gets competent with post moves around the rim. He’ll be in for a rude awakening if he relies on his power game around the rim. 6-10 guys with average athletic ability are drinking Gatorade and watching cheerleaders at the end of an NBA bench in a city near you.
14. Phoenix Suns select Earl Clark (SF, Louisville)
Can’t pass up an athletic baseline player like Clark so late in the first round. His length and versatility almost guarantee success. If he develops a handle, he’s an all-star year in and year out.
15. Pistons Austin Daye (SF, Zags)
Could be a steal if he finds a pharmacist. If not, he could be Tayshon Prince if he can handle.
16. Bulls James Johnson (PF, Wake Forest)
Has all the physical attributes to be an impact player in the NBA. The fact that he disappeared in games surrounded by a personnel grouping including Teague and Smith among other studs for Wake Forest is cause for concern. I’m not sure the kid loves the game. Honestly, if Damion James could handle the ball even a little bit, I like him more than Johnson, but Johnson can put it on the deck. If I’m James, Johnson’s my benchmark for next year’s draft. Johnson has the ability to guard big forwards but that doesn’t warrant the 16 slot in my opinion.
17. 76ers Jrue Holiday (PG, UCLA)
Great size and athletic ability for a PG. Give him time and room to grow and he can be a difference maker as a 1. His upside is better than Flynn’s.
18. Timberwolves Ty Lawson (PG, UNC)
His lack of shooting ability hampers him if he’s playing on a team asking him to be a top one or two scoring option. A little high in my opinion. And so were the Wolves for taking three point guards.
19. Hawks Jeff Teague (PG, Wake Forest)
Steal of the fucking draft. His game is perfectly suited for the NBA. He’s a better shooting Jason Terry. He’s a better distributor than Aaron Brooks. He’ll be a perennial all-star. Hawks are getting Deron Williams like value here.
20. Jazz Eric Maynor (PG, VCU)
I like this pick in terms of its fit with current personnel. Maynor can get Williams off the ball, which is huge for the Jazz. When you consider Maynor will be creating for one of the premiere baseline players in the game in Kirilenko it gets even better. Tough kid with college skins on the wall. A pure leader. He’ll give the Jazz some “street toughness” on the roster which is a trait they desperately lack.
21. Hornets Darren Collison (PG, UCLA)
Too small and not quick enough. No Nick Wises to pork in the NBA my friend.
22. Trail Blazers Victor Claver (SF, Euro)
If he can recover from a knee injury he’ll be a steal. If not, it’s a gamble the Trailblazers can withstand considering their baseline.
23. Kings Omri Casspi (SF, Wailing Wall)
If you’re a Longhorn fan, Casspi’s emergence was an integral part in pushing James back to Texas.
24. Thunder B.J. Mullens (C, THE OSU)
Good pick for the Thunder considering Mullens’ size and athletic ability. Needs to develop skills around the rim to be a contributor because he won’t be able to overpower NBA centers. Like most young big men, developing post moves will be key. Where have you gone Pete Newell a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
25. Mavs Rodrigue Beaubois (PG, Euro)
6-10 reach on a 6-1 point guard is nuts. Finishing second to Blake Griffin on the backboard drill is nutsier. Can he handle?
26. Bulls Taj Gibson (PF, USC)
Unreal length and athleticism. Finisher/dunker extraordinaire. And he’ll guard your ass. I love the pick and the value Taj brings to a perimeter centric team, especially this late in the draft. Plus rebounder.
27. Grizzlies DeMarre Carroll (PF, Show Me U)
He’s too small to be a true power forward. He needs big 5’s and 3’s on the floor with him to pick up the rebounding slack. But he’ll take your power forward away from the bucket and do work. If you can hide his size deficiencies on defense and on the glass he’s an intriguing player.
28. Timberwolves Wayne Ellington (SG, UNC)
Meh. Don’t like it. Give me a player that can get his own shot off the deck. Chase Budinger comes to mind. Ellington can stroke it. But he can stroke it just as well in the second round.
29. Lakers Toney Douglas (SG, FSU)
That’s more like it. A war daddy that can hunt his offense. He can carry an offense because that’s what he’s done his whole career. He can step right in and replace Fischer when he hangs them up. Douglas can also slide over and run the show in the Farmar role. Except Toney brings talent to that role.
30. Cavaliers Christian Eyenga (SF, Congo)
A 6-6 skilled wing. If he’s tough enough he’ll be a keeper.
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explain…
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Now THAT’S Taking One For The Team 6 hours, 9 minutes ago
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Now THAT’S Taking One For The Team 6 hours, 9 minutes ago
He played for New Mexico State.
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admin commented on the blog post Final Four Prediction 7 hours, 46 minutes ago
Baylor scares me. They have no idea what the bright lights feel like.
Huggins also has a horrible history with high seeds from his days at Cincy.
Bingo.
Bingo.
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ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 14 hours, 15 minutes ago
I just took Baylor going to the Elite 8. It’s a crazy mixed up world we live in.
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Art Vandelay commented on the blog post Final Four Prediction 14 hours, 18 minutes ago
By “we” I meant the Horns. Kevin, why should I take Siena over A&M?
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Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 14 hours, 32 minutes ago
colorado ag, Utah State is as athletic as Nebraska. You’ll be fine as long as they don’t go 16 for 31 from three.
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Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 14 hours, 35 minutes ago
Great article Scipio. Also, thanks for the dime.
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Art Vandelay commented on the blog post Final Four Prediction 14 hours, 40 minutes ago
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James commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 14 hours, 51 minutes ago
Scip, like a peaceful Indian in the 1800’s, I never trust a Mormon that can shoot. Utah State has me worried.
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Possibly. However, I’m telling you – the beauty of these intergame lines is that when you see that all-too-familiar big early game lead that you know will evaporate down the stretch as soon as the team starts regressing to their 3 point shooting mean, there’s some money to be made.
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 15 hours, 23 minutes ago
uthookem-
I’d say you have your priorities straight.
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Anytime. How far do you think the Aggies go? A lot of people think Utah State is the most dangerous pure shooting team in the tournament.
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uthookem commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
Last year in Vegas, Friday morning, stumble to the line at 8:30 to make my bets, put $20 on a four-team parlay on the four 9:00 am games, nailed it! Three of the four games’ spread was determined in the final 0:30. Walked away with $220.
Yeah, so what if that is the only
uthookem said:
June 27th, 2009 at 5:45 am
SO, I’m not a fan of the NBA either, but NBACares so I watched a few minutes while eating mexican food Thursday night.
Did Matt Millen help the Timberwolves in this draft? WTF? Three PGs?
BEHorn said:
June 27th, 2009 at 6:37 am
I’m assuming the T-wolves have a deal or two brewing that needed one of the PGs. Otherwise, Kevin McHale is glad he got run out of town.
ipowers said:
June 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Still reading other people’s scouting reports I see, but with enough bullshit to display your ignorance. Terrence Williams needs a handle, are you serious ? Did you not notice how much he handled the ball at Louisville or did you not hear that Don Nelson over at Golden St. loved him as a POINT Forward ? You probably didn’t because you spend most of your time with your head up your ass.
ipowers said:
June 27th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Oh and you love Jrue Holiday’s upside, at what position ? It’s amazing to me how people fall in love with a kid who averaged 8ppg last season and all of a sudden he’s a point guard while never having played the position before. Real bright.
HenryJames said:
June 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Trips Right said:
June 27th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
ip, you must have missed Terrance Williams get absolutely shut down by UCONN. That doesn’t happen to NBA point forwards. Of course, I’m arguing with some west coast yahoo that thinks Shawn Williams is a better player than Jordan Hamilton so, I’m not surprised.
Trips Right said:
June 27th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
As for Jrue Holiday, roll out your own evaluation partna or go shit in your hat. Deron Williams wasn’t a point guard in college either. Examples like Williams are legion.
Callkevin said:
June 27th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I live in Indy, and was initially frustrated by the Tyler H pick–but not for the reasons you mentioned. I was bummed because I think it’ll impact the local kid, Josh McRoberts, who plays for the team. Tyler’s going to show up and be a complete pain in the ass intensity-ratcheting player in practice and in games. Like him or dislike him, you have to recognize that he goes all out in a way that most people can’t. He will make the players around him better even if he never produces in an NBA game–and I won’t bet against his producing. Unlike most of the people someone would compare him to based upon his size & skin color, he’s got fire. I first watched him play Greg Oden (healthy) in Butler Fieldhouse, and although Oden’s team won, Tyler stood out. He hasn’t changed.
ipowers said:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
WOW, R U FUCKING SERIOUS DERON WILLIAMS WASN’T A POINT GUARD IN COLLEGE. Now I really know that u have no clue about what you are talking about. I have the UNC-Illinois national championship game on tape and all he did was run the point. Dee Brown played off the ball which is why he went so much lower in the draft because of his lack of size and pg skills. You are out of your fucking mind. You couldn’t find one gm or NBA scout that would say Deron Williams wasn’t a point guard in college. You have the same problem that a lot of people have, you think you know more than you really do. I have played this game patna, I have been around and known more pro’s than you ever will,I have witnessed NBA workouts, I have been on the AAU circuit and seen the kids play that you have to write about based on somebody else’s scouting reports. Greg Hicks who works for Scout.com thinks Hamilton is overrated. Dave Telep at Scout.com who has a vote for the McDonald’s Game told me verbatim that ” there are guys who will make the McDonald’s team who are not as talented as Shawn.” That is a direct quote stupid fuck. I was at the Texas Elite Camp last week and saw Todd Wright working guys out, I saw the hour long scrimmage the college and pro guys had in front of the campers. I overheard former UT players tell their boys how the coaching staff is raving about Shawn Williams fucker. Tell me this. How is it that a team whose primary weakness will be perimeter shooting, especially with AJ Abrams being gone, going to redshirt their best shooter, think about it stupid ass. You are the same asshole who compared Avery Bradley to Jimmy Jackson. Again are you fucking serious ? There are no similarities in their games. You want a good comparison genius ? Try Monta Ellis, same size, build, speed and middle game. Not somebody who was almost 3 inches taller and damn near 40 pounds heavier who was primarily a post up two guard, when I have never seen Avery attempt to post anybody up. Oh J. Kidd is a friend of mine from Oakland, so I was pretty close to the Maverick situation when he and Jimmy were teammates, so I think I have a little more insight than you do on Jimmy’s game. Terrence Williams didn’t get shut down by UCONN, it was against MICHIGAN ST. in the elite eight. See that further proves that you just shoot off shit without checking it out first. You dumb fuck.
ipowers said:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Oh and Terrence Williams didn’t get shut down because he couldn’t handle the ball well, it was because he has a suspect jumpshot. Try reading Chad Ford’s scouting report on ESPN.com about Terrence Williams, or another friend of mine Aran Smith who runs NBADraft.net, another site that you like to quote to get your info from. See I try not to name drop but when you come at me like you know more than I do and you have no clue who you are talking to, I have to let you know that I’m not some computer geek that likes to front like I know something. Unlike yourself.
ipowers said:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Oh and another thing. Deron Williams played the point in high school also. The two guard was Bracey Wright, McDonald’s All American who went to Indiana who never went anywhere. See the rankings and shit are wrong a lot because nobody thought Deron Williams was a pro coming out of high school. Even if he didn’t play the point in college he did in high school with gives him more experience than Jrue Holiday. Holiday didn’t play the point with Pump-N-Run because he played with Larry Drew at North Carolina. Didn’t play in high school because of his scoring ability, didn’t play it at UCLA because of Collison. Any more questions ?
longhornmatt said:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:51 am
That escalated quickly. I mean, it jumped up a notch.
Tone aside, I agree with a lot of ipowers’ points. First, you have Earl Clark and Terrence Williams confused. Clark was the one who went 2-16 against UConn. Williams scored 26 on them. Williams has also basically been running the point for Louisville the last 3 years, and ball handling is the major strength of his game.
Next, Deron Williams led the Big Ten in assists twice at Illinois, and he finished 3rd as a freshman while leading the league during conference play. He was absolutely the guy running the show for those Illini teams, and he always showed an innate understanding of the game and outstanding passing ability. I also don’t see why Utah would want Williams off the ball, and it’s pretty much indisputable that Andrei Kirilenko is a grossly overpaid bum nowadays, not one of the top baseline players in the league.
Other nitpick – Ty Lawson has actually become a pretty damn good shooter. I seriously doubt he will shoot 47% from 3 in the NBA like he did for UNC this year, but he is a good enough shooter to keep people honest and with his quickness, that’s all he needs. I think he will be a good NBA player.
Now for the other side, I agree with Trips about Harden being the best pick for OKC even though a lot of message board folk have been criticizing that choice. I especially agree with him about Brandon Jennings. Jennings was, in my opinion at least, easily the best player in his high school class last year. If he had gone to college instead of Italy, I believe he would have been the 2nd pick behind Griffin, or potentially even the 1st pick.
Finally, I have only seen Hamilton live during the Jordan Classic game, but I have seen Williams play several times for Duncanville over the last few years, and to me Hamilton is clearly the superior player. Williams does not put the ball on the floor all that well, while Hamilton’s handle is exceptional. Williams is also a good shooter, but not the elite marksman he is billed to be, based on what I have seen. Hamilton shoots it just as well as he does. Both guys are smooth but not tremendously explosive athletes. Hamilton is clearly the greater overall offensive threat, though.
SL Xpress said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:07 am
I like this ipowers guy. I like Trips Right more, and ipowers definitely comes across as a douche, but he’s a douche with piss and vinegar.
I find all the name dropping pure comedy gold.
I will say I thought for sure ipowers was Shawn Williams’ Dad, but it looks like that may not be the case after all.
I’m going to be laughing if Williams’ ends up redshirting, though. And the idea he’s better than Hamilton is absurd. Oh, and I don’t know what crawled up Greg Hicks’ butt, but I’ve seen those evaluations. It’s always felt to me like Hicks let his UCLA affiliation influence his opinion on Hamilton, or else he saw him on off days. I’ve watched Hamilton several times in different settings, and he looks like an absolute stud to me. Williams looks like he needs to gain strength and lateral quickness, not to mention a better handle. He is a good shooter, though, and I think he’s going to be a tremendous asset to the program. I just hope he can be a little patient. There’s going to be a ton more playing time available next year after the upcoming mass exodus than there’s going to be this season.
CloseToJumping said:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Oh man, I really enjoyed that flip out up above from ipowers. That was awesome.
Oh and... said:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Glad to see I got some play on this thread.
Vasherized said:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Awesome.
And the best part is ipowers is Trips’ five year old kid.
He’s got some temper problems and a clear disdain for authority figures but a pure knowledge of the game.
Huge upside!
Hey powerranger,
How many PPG did Rajon Rondo avg at Kentucky?
BatesHorn said:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Normally you guys lose me at “NBA” but that’s a quality wigout on any site.
Mudhole-esque
Vasherized said:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:39 am
This gem bears repeating.
See I try not to name drop but when you come at me like you know more than I do
Why do you always do that, Trips? You need to just write for a general audience instead of always coming at people with your incisive wit and informed dialogue.
SL mentioned it already but if Williams does indeed redshirt, we will definitely be revisiting this charade.
Minnesotahorn said:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Awesome. Between this and the random callousness of the Princess Di crack on another thread I don’t think I’ve ever been more proud of our readers.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:39 am
For the record I never said Shawn was better than Jordan Hamilton. That’s more of trips rights bullshit. What I did say though was that he can do everything that Hamilton can do. As far as lateral quickness is concerned read some scouting reports on Hamilton and I guarantee you the same concerns are mentioned. Hamilton is very mature physically which gives him a huge edge at the high school level, he will not have that advantage at the college level. A kid like Shawn Williams has nothing but upside and Todd Wright can do things with his body to develop some of the things he lacks which he can’t do with Hamilton because of his physical maturity. Please stop with this shit about Shawn having no handle that’s a fucking myth. No he’s not going to give you a Allen Iverson crossover but neither do most guys in the league, getting from point a to point b is all that matters. FYI, I’m not his dad, I would think that his dad’s last name is Williams and not Powers. Trips just gets under my fucking skin with his know it all bullshit. My bad.
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Yes you did you fucking west coast cheese dick.
“This notion that Jordan Hamilton is more talented than Shawn Williams is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. The problem is that most of you who write this stuff have no basis for it other than what you’ve read on another website and based on rankings. I live in Cali and have seen Jordan Hamilton play numerous times and while he can play he is nowhere near as good as all you clowns on this site try to make him out to be. His own AAU coach told me that he was good but he wasn’t as good as he or other people think he is. Greg Hicks over at Scout.com has told me repeatedly that he is vastly overrated and he does all the scouting for the West Coast. Dave Telep who is the head scout at Scout.com told me point blank that there were kids who made the McDonald’s team who weren’t as talented as Shawn Williams and Telep has a vote on the committee. You take that for what it’s worth and stop all this crazy talking ya’ll doing man.”–ipowers
I’m surprised you spelled asinine correctly. Patna.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Rondo averaged 11 a game his last year at Kentucky, but he also played the position that he was being drafted to play as well. You guys have just penciled Hamilton into the lineup without looking at a few things. Fist he hasn’t been cleared yet, which from what I have been told might not happen this year. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he would be on campus for summer school, but I got a totally different vibe last week at the Elite Camp. Secondly, no matter how many pickup games he plays or how hard he works out the fact remains that he hasn’t played a meaningful game in well over a year. He will be behind the rest of the team in terms of conditioning because everybody else has been working with Todd Wright over the summer. Third, he is an immature kid mentally, and the coaching staff is well aware of that, which means the he and Rick Barnes will assuredly bump heads more than a few times. FYI, I was at an AAU game in Vegas last year when I saw Shawn Williams get his team back in the game playing the point, I saw him take his man off the dribble and when his man tried to rip him, he picked it up off the floor and went behind his back and laid it off the glass without needing another dribble, I have seen him drive baseline get cut off, put it back between his legs and step back on a guy and knock down a deep jumper. All that shit requires a guy to have a handle, I’m talking what I have seen with my own eyes, not what somebody told me. He did some of these things while Ben Howland at UCLA was watching him. You don’t get offered by UCLA,Florida,Kentucky, and Kansas without having a lot of ability. It’s crazy how all ya’ll completely ignore the quote from Dave Telep about Shawn’s talent, selective amnesia. If I didn’t know any better I would think some of ya’ll had a personal problem with Shawn.
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
You should have typed, “I’m a crawfishing pussy.” And then name dropped Michael Jackson and Ed McMahon.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Stop crying like a little bitch, punk motherfucker who just cyberfucked me with my own post.
Massengill said:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
We caught wind of this discussion and had a few questions for ipowers. How are your oratory skills? Are you lickquacious? We have a new “green” product and thought you’d be perfect.
Vasherized said:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Trips Right’s business cards do say Cyberfucker.
Maybe ipowers should have come more prepared.
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
“Oh and Terrence Williams didn’t get shut down because he couldn’t handle the ball well, it was because he has a suspect jumpshot. Try reading Chad Ford’s scouting report on ESPN.com about Terrence Williams, or another friend of mine Aran Smith who runs NBADraft.net, another site that you like to quote to get your info from. See I try not to name drop.”–ipowers
So, here’s NBADraft.net’s scouting report on Terrence Williams.
“Weaknesses: Although he has improved his 3-point shooting over his collegiate career from 31% to 38% his senior year, he will really need to continue his development at the NBA level. His offensive game remains his biggest weakness as he struggles to put points on the board consistently … If his shot isn’t dropping and an athletic defender is keeping him from getting to the rim, his offensive game goes into the tank … Also needs to improve his ability to drive in the lane with his off-hand as well as continuing to develop his ball-handling … These will be particularly important if he wants to play the 2 at the next level …”–NBAdraft.net
Here’s my analysis: “Williams is a terrific defender, but I worry about his ability to get his own shot against the athletes in the NBA. It’s a ballhandlers league and that’s not one of Williams’ strong suits.”
Did you go shit on your friends site for his assessment that isn’t all that different from mine? Your mouthbreathing buffoonery is high comedy indeed. The proprietors of this site should put you on the payroll. Or maybe this a practical joke on me. Either way, it’s a win/win for entertainment during a slow sports month.
HenryJames said:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
This site has a payroll?
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Here are Chad Ford’s thoughts on Jrue Holiday.
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS GRADE: A
Round 1: Jrue Holiday (17)
Round 2: None
Analysis: “I really like what the 76ers did, taking an opportunity to nab a lottery talent who was falling because of injury concerns. Holiday is in a long line of players who slipped when team doctors got nervous, with Danny Granger as a prime example. The Sixers could have gone with a more proven guard like Ty Lawson or Eric Maynor, but Holiday has more upside and could turn into a terrific pick for them.”
I just sent an email to Ford warning him that a guy named ipowerdouchebag will whine about using Jrue Holiday and upside in the same sentence.
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
NBADraftExpress on Ty Lawson
STRENGTHS:
- Transition play
- True point guard
- Ability to create own shot
- Aggressive slashing mentality
- Ball-handling skills
- Excellent hands
- Ability to get in passing lanes
- Pressure defense
- Potential
- Unselfishness
- Work ethic
- High-level productivity
- Assist to turnover ratio
- Court vision
- Passing skills
- Incredibly quick
- Strength
- 3-point shooting percentages
- Ability to catch and shoot
WEAKNESSES:
- Ability to get to free throw line
- Ability to play at different speeds
- Efficiency
- Lacks significant offensive polish
- Out of control at times
- Settles for bad shots
- Ability to create own shot
- Struggles to create with off hand
- Basketball IQ?
- Questionable intangibles
- Ability to shoot off the dribble
- Free throw shooting
- Pull-up jumper
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
First off, you still never showed a quote in that paragraph of mine that you posted that shows that I said Shawn was better than Hamilton.Secondly what are you sending me a scotuing report on Ty Lawson for ? Ty Lawson’s hasn’t come out of my mouth not one time. See I’m really starting to think that you are a fucking loon. I said this notion that Jordan Hamilton is more talented than Shawn Williams is asinine is not saying that Shawn is better than him, that whole paragraph you pasted still doesn’t say that Shawn is better than Hamilton, go back and read it again, I just did. Here’s Chad Ford’s breakdown of Terrence Williams and maybe I can’t read but it sure says GOOD BALL HANDLER and can PLAY AS A POINT FORWARD, maybe you can see something different, take a look bitch.Chad Ford’s Analysis: With the Nets trading Vince Carter, they are starting over. Williams is one of the best athletes in the draft, has a ton of skills and can really defend. He’s an eccentric dude and he doesn’t always come to play, but when he does, wow. It will be fun to watch Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Williams, Yi Jianlian and Brook Lopez grow up together. They’ll lose a lot of games, but there’s a lot of potential there.
Draft Projection: Mid to late first
Notes:
Terrence Williams
Williams is a jack-of-all-trades on the court
Positives:
# Superathletic swing man
# Excellent rebounder
# Long and explosive
# Skilled player who can do a little bit of everything
# Good ball handler
# Can play as a point forward
Negatives:
# A very inconsistent shooter
# Has range and isn’t shy to let it fly, but his shooting percentages are shaky
# Not always aggressive, can fade into the background
# Poor free-throw shooter
# Questionable decision making at times
# Several off the court issues have scared away some teams
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Oh and here is Aran Smith’s draft report on Holiday the day after. Holiday was expected by many to go several spots higher than this. But there wasn’t any real reason for it. While he does have potential, Holiday is a true project who seems to have bust written all over him after doing very little with plenty of opportunity at UCLA last season. Here is overall scouting report on Holiday, read the weaknesses part too. See you not the only one that can cut and paste some shit motherfucker. Strengths: Long and wiry combo guard … A crafty ballhandler that knows how to get defenders off balance with the dribble … Has a good repertoire of moves and mixes them up well to keep the defense guessing … He has a deceptive 1st step and shifty quickness making him difficult to contain on the perimeter … Is adept using both hands, either when attacking or finishing … Uses his body as well as his length to finish around the basket … Utilizes a variety of floaters and runners in the lane … Likes to pull up from the midrange where he shoots with balance and good rhythm … Shows good speed in the open court and the ability to manoeuvre through traffic with the dribble while going full speed … Puts in a good effort defensively, where he enjoys being aggressive and pressuring ballhandlers … Has good hands, anticipates well and uses his wingspan to get many deflections … He is unselfish and possesses good court vision and has shown glimpses of being able to run a team full time …
Weaknesses: Had a very disappointing season in terms of the hype he had coming in from highschool … Played out of position for the majority of the season, and struggled finding his comfort zone … Battled inconsistency with his shot all year and it threw the rest of his offensive game off balance … Defenses showed very little respect for his outside shot, daring him to shoot and taking away his driving lanes … His form is a big issue as it throws his stroke off and makes his release inconsistent … He shoots off the side of his head with the shooting elbow way out, as a result his shot is all over the place …He does not have the superb athleticism or strength like many other combo guards … Tends to waste dribbles on the perimeter, killing the flow of the offense because he can be a ball stopper at times … Gets into trouble by over penetrating and then trying to make the spectacular play while in traffic and under pressure … Settles for contested jumpshots from outside and takes a lot of fading and offbalance attempts inside … Leaves his feet to make passes and gets caught with no options … Is stuck between positions because he has not proven that he can be a consistent scorer or that his decision making will translate to the next level …
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Texted Aran a little earlier and asked him if he thought a good comparison for Avery Bradley was Monta Ellis, his response: not bad.LMAO.
Trips Right said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
First off, I know you think every basketball post is personally directed at you, but I posted the info on Ty Lawson as a reply to another poster’s thoughts on Ty’s game. Despite what you may believe, I hate to break the fact that your “crib” doesn’t kickstart photosynthesis or originate solar flairs.
As for your other jibba jabba, Chad Ford isn’t the end all be all. He’s giving his opinion. But I get it now. Chad Ford is your BFF and Aran Smith of NBAdraftexpress is just a name you like to drop, seeing as how they have different opinions on Terrence Williams’ game. So, as the score stands now, you and Chad Ford think Williams can get his own shot vs. plus athletes, and Aran Smith and I don’t. Cool. Not a big deal. I was willing to hug it out with you bitch, but you had make it personal with your original posts. Now it’s on muthafucka. I’m going to eviscerate you with the long dick of Barking Carnival publisher status.
HOWEVAAAAAAA, I’d like to thank you for the robust entertainment that you’ve provided me personally. I love comedy. I can seriously picture you tap your chest twice and point to the sky each and every time you hit the submit comment button. It makes me chortle to the point that I scare my dog.
But I ain’t mad at you, yo. I’m squashing it right here.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Here’s Aran;s recap on the Pangos Camp this year. Read the list of people that he talked to and read what they said about Jrue Holiday. If you think I made this up, I’ll post the link for you so you and your cronies can read it for themselves. I spent last weekend at the Pangos U18 All American camp in Long Beach, California evaluating future talent. This is an event where in past years a number of players have had their coming out parties including Anthony Randolph, and where John Wall shined last year. With the top rising senior Harrison Barnes there, this figured to be an excellent event to cover and it did not disappoint.
Harrison Barnes
I got a chance to talk to a number of the top national recruiting gurus, Dave Telep, Van Coleman, Jerry Meyer, Brick Oettinger, Frank Burlison, Clark Francis, Evan Daniels, Gerry Freitas, Aggrey Sam, Joel Francisco, Patrick Stanwood, and Mark Maggard and get their take on a number of things including this year’s draft.
One of the things I asked a number of them about was two of the bigger mysteries of this year’s NBA draft: Jrue Holiday and Brandon Jennings.
Nearly everyone feels that Holiday is tremendously overrated. Guys like Burlison and Freitas make a living scouting West Coast talent and have seen these guys dozens of times in high school as well as college (Holiday). Burlison mentioned a number of factors including the fact that Holiday was never a point guard in high school (so why should we assume he’s one now?), the notion that he’s an athletic combo like Westbrook (not even close to being a freak athlete, like Westbrook) and the idea that he’s a lock down defender, he’s not (when UCLA played Washington State they had to take him off Klay Thompson because he was giving up too many points).
Everyone agreed that Holiday being considered a potential top 3 or 4 pick is absolutely absurd. http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6445
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
So let me count all the things you were wrong about. Longhorn Matt posted earlier that he agreed with me, while pointing out that you were WRONG about Terrence Williams getting shutdown by UCONN, WRONG about Deron Williams not being a point guard in college, WRONG about me saying that Shawn Williams was better than Hamilton, like I said go back and read the statement, it’s not in there nobody on this site who reads it will be able to find where I said that, BECAUSE IT’S NOT THERE. WRONG about Terrence Williams having a handle, refer to Chad Ford’s scouting report. WRONG about Jrue Holiday, read the stuff I posted on Holiday as well as all the other talent people Aran spoke to about Holiday down at Pangos. I’m done here. I got cyberfucked ? You might want to take another look.
Captain Obvious said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Umm, you claimed Williams was better with this.
“This notion that Jordan Hamilton is more talented than Shawn Williams is the most asinine thing I have ever heard.”
Bill Clinton said:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Well, it all depends on your definition of asinine.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Umm…me saying that Hamilton isn’t more talented is saying just what I wrote. Let me dumb it down for you. They are equally talented is what that sentence says. If you have something to show that I said “Shawn Williams is better than Jordan Hamilton” then I’ll rest my case but you don’t. So stop trying to parse my words and twist them to make them out to what you want them to be.
I gotta get the last word in and you just got served bitch said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
yeah, he just said williams has more talent, not that he’s better than hamilton. duh.
who invited the retarded aau groupies?
“yeah, that’s right bitch! whats up motherfucka”.
someones little brother is fucking with you guys.
Captain Obvious said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
“This notion that Jordan Hamilton is more talented than Shawn Williams is the most asinine thing I have ever heard.”
vs.
“Let me dumb it down for you. They are equally talented is what that sentence says.”
Dude? Really?
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I think it’s pretty obvious that I’m not talking to any Harvard grads here. If I were to say that Beyone isn’t more talented than Alicia Keys, does not mean that Alicia Keys is better, it simply means that I think both are equally talented, neither one is more talented than the other, but ya’ll motherfuckers must suck trips right dick, cause ya’ll getting involved in some shit that i thought was between me and him and taking it real personal, it seem like. No little brothers here, I’m a grown ass man from East Oakland, and sticking your nose where it don’t belong ain’t really something that sit well out here, I then seen motherfuckers get killed for that kind of shit, homeboy.
BrickHorn said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I think it’s pretty obvious that I’m not talking to any Harvard grads here.
For the record, I think you’re a douche, too.
Chooky said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Everyone that posts comments here risks being killed. Wait … damnit.
Vasherized said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
And I think it’s pretty obvious we’re talking to a dude from East Oakland.
Since you live near BC headquarters, maybe Sailor can take you out to lunch in return for this unintentional comedy.
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
DickHorn, your mama’s a douche nigga
Shit Just Got Real said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Ahhhh hell no!!!! Don’t nobody talk about Dickhorn’s mamma.
Massengill said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Anyone else feeling a little unfresh?
flamingmonkeyass said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
ipowers = Screamin’ A Smith?
I mean what else does he have going on these days?
Minnesotahorn said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Chooky said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
What is a douche nigga? Whatever it is, I seriously doubt that Dickhorn’s mother even slightly resembles one.
BrickHorn said:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
DickHorn, your mama’s a douche nigga
A typical boorish Yalie retort.
HenryJames said:
June 28th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
This is like reading a transcript of Firing Line.
LeverUp said:
June 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
In all the nonsense above, just one point interests me (from ipowers):
Fist he hasn’t been cleared yet, which from what I have been told might not happen this year. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he would be on campus for summer school, but I got a totally different vibe last week at the Elite Camp.
ipowers says hamilton hasn’t qualified and may not play this year. Is that accurate, and if so, what hurdles are left for him to qualify?
sa said:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
this is some of the most entertaining stuff I’ve read in awhile…that said, anything seems pretty fresh when compared with large doses of mbe/TX essay study, I guess. regardless, this little gem certainly compares favorably to the light-hearted laugh I had to let out after reading the Kindle news.
on a related note…maybe this could turn into a series of debates covering a variety of topics? a lincoln/douglas format would obviously have to be altered to allow for the constant barrage of personal attacks.
any topic would be fine with me…jewish settlements in the west bank, the importance of a classical education, the war on drugs, the twilight series, magic v. bird, the mini-buffalo-ranch-chicken-sandwich commerical being the best thing that’s ever occurred in western civilization, or whatever.
Parlin Hall said:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
“And I think it’s pretty obvious we’re talking to a dude from East Oakland.”
ipowers = Batman?
Scipiotex = Bruce Wayne?
(Would explain a lot)
NateHeupel said:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Does anyone else read ipowers comments and immediately think of Michael Bolton from Office Space? You know, the doofy white guy who listens to loud rap until a black guy walks by and he turns down the radio, rolls up the windows, and locks the doors. Once the black guy is a safe distance away, he turns the radio back up and rolls the windows back down.
…Cause its die muthafuckas, die muthafuckas still
ipowers said:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
From what I understand Hamilton failed quite a few classes his first year and a half or so in high school. He has since been diagnosed with ADD, which his father says they asked his school, Dorsey High, to test him for which they supposedly neglected to do. That’s the case that they’re trying to make to the NCAA and the Clearinghouse and I know that the NCAA can be dicks about shit like this, so it remains to be seen whether or not he will be cleared. It could be another J’Covan Brown type situation. I do know this though, he was the last freshman to have a locker with his name plate on it, that could be a coincidence or it could have a deeper meaning, we’ll just have to wait and see.
Fuck Lion said:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I can’t believe I haven’t been referenced by ipowers yet. He’s dropped every name but mine. :(
BatesHorn said:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Two days later and it’s still giving.
Art Vandelay said:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Timberwolves GM will be getting emails from Mark Cuban soon. I see Jason Kidd as a Knick this year.
Also, how is it that Donnie Nelson (Dallas GM) still has a job?
Shock G said:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:10 am
big ups to the BC marketing dept to get out here in oak town, first time poster, long time reader here.
Think we can get my boy Too Short to be a guest columnist to talk about the warriors draft?
The General said:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
the mini-buffalo-ranch-chicken-sandwich commerical being the best thing that’s ever occurred in western civilization, or whatever.
Logically speaking, this argument is an existential fallacy. The person that can cogently argue that the mini-buffalo-ranch-chicken-sandwich commericals aren’t the best thing produced by western culture does not exist.
Or if he/she/it/being/deity/whatnot does exist, I will shoot him/her/it/being/deity/whatnot.
Edwin Dailey said:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
If ipowers feels threatened, he’s morally obligated to destroy you.
ipowers said:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
LMAO
Matt Nader said:
June 29th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
ipowers just pulled a piece on me.
Facebook User said:
June 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Shock G – Of course. We love the Warriors. Went to the playoff game when Baron Davis bent over Dirk. Still have the We Believe T shirt.
ipowers said:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Naw Matt, I don’t pack pistols. Just getting in other people’s quarrels then got a lot of people caught up in something that wasn’t their concern that’s all I was saying.
Parlin Hall said:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Has anyone seen Scipio and ipowers in the same chatroom at the same time?
ipowers said:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
This shit is hilarious how all ya’ll motherfuckers just coming to trips defense like he’s a family member or a little kid who can’t defend himself. WOW
Facebook User said:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
He is a family member. We’re like the Mansons.
ipowers said:
June 29th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I’m just going to say this and leave it alone cause I don’t know if this is a comical site or what because everything is a fucking joke. The Manson’s right, ok. The bottom line is this I hate when people like Trips Right write about shit and put things in print that they have no basis for and it really pisses me off. It pisses me off even more when people like the ones on this site read this shit like it is gospel and take it to the bank. You really all remind me of Republicans who don’t do their own research and believe everything Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity says. Think for yourself. Trips right is no more an authority on anything basketball or sports related than anybody else. He has no credentials whatsoever. How can he say that a kid who was recruited and offered by schools like Louisville, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA,Florida, Texas A&M, Illinois, and Indiana, and was tracked by North Carolina before they decided to offer somebody else is going to redshirt as a freshman ? He has no basis for that statement other than Rick Barnes failing to mention his name in one interview, when I have read other interviews where he has talked about Shawn and Avery and didn’t mention Jordan’s name. It means absolutely nothing. I have read interviews where he talks about the Durant and Augustin class and doesn’t mention Damion James. I just happen to be the lone voice who calls him out for what he says and everybody on this site has to jump on me, when I wasn’t even talking to the rest of ya’ll. I guarantee you that Trips hasn’t talked to the coaching staff about anything he writes, he just says it and ya’ll run with it. Like I said earlier, Longhorn Matt corrected him on a couple of things that I told him he was wrong about a few posts up and none of you even acknowledged that shit. When a person they are just wrong and there’s no two ways to slice it. I’m sure one of you smart ass will find something funny about what I’m even saying now, and I normally don’t get that way I got a couple of days ago, but something about Trips just rubs me the wrong way. All of this hype he is putting on Hamilton and how he dogs Shawn Williams is unfair to an 18 year old kid. Has anybody stopped to think what that could possibly do to that kid’s confidence if he happened to come on this site and saw some of the shit that Trips writes about him. Like for instance when they all signed, he calls up some fucking AAU coach who is supposed to be the alpha and omega on high school basketball and says at the end of his assessment, Did Shawn Williams say damn when Hamilton committed ? Our Take: Yes. That shows you how misinformed he is. Schools normally tell kids that they’re recruiting about the other kids they’re looking at. You don’t think Shawn knew or had a pretty good indication that Hamilton was coming when he committed. He couldn’t tell you how many times he has actually sat and watched these kids play more than once and got a true evaluation of what each of them can do. He couldn’t call up a GM, scout, coach or anybody who makes these decisions and get a call back. His only opinion is what somebody else says or writes and he repeats it as if it’s his own and to me that’s sad. I probably wouldn’t have went bad on him like I did if he hadn’t called me a yahoo. I might have said he full of shit or had his head up his ass, but I didn’t call him out of his name until later. I just know talent and I have played this game at a fairly high level I have seen a lot of these kids play in person and I talk to a lot of people about their opinion about these kids and I think I’m a little more informed than Trips is. You can make jokes if you want to, but if you SERIOUSLY read this you will understand where I’m coming from.
ipowers said:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
This is what I actually said about Shawn and Hamilton. Trips Right cherry picked one comment to try to make it seem like I said Shawn was better than Hamilton, to make himself look better, when I never did say that. This was my very first post on this site. See this is what I’m talking about and what needs to be exposed about this dude. Read This : Man u r really out to lunch if u think Shawn Williams is going to play second fiddle to Jordan Hamilton. Shawn is a better shooter, an inch taller, and this myth that he has no handle is crazy as hell. I have been watching Shawn since the eight grade, HE IS EVERY BIT AS GOOD AS HAMILTON, just doesn’t have the hype because his body still needs a little maturing, which is what Hamilton has on him right now. That’s what weight rooms are for. Hamilton is not a jaw dropping athlete either.
SL Xpress said:
June 30th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Is the “enter” bar smaller on your keyboard than it is on mine? They make mine a little bit larger than the other keys.
Vasherized said:
June 30th, 2009 at 1:34 am
ipowers dic-tates, man. We talkin about dictation. And steppin up for one’s boy. Yeah. Trips has made a fine livin off shortin Shawn Williams and it’s time that shit is put straight! I has the powers, he-man style yo.
ipowers, are you a Reebok, Adidas, or Nike guy? Just curious.
Minnesotahorn said:
June 30th, 2009 at 4:35 am
“He is a family member. We’re like the Mansons.”
Sailor – Charlie
Scipio – Tex
Henry James – Squeeky
My god, it’s uncanny.
jinx said:
June 30th, 2009 at 4:47 am
This is the most entertaining shit you guys have come up with in a long time. I’m in tears here.
Whoever is playing the part of ipowers deserves a raise. Way to spice up the off season BC.
The Republicans said:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:15 am
We do our own research – well except on that Global Warming shit – How do you research shit that is just made up?
Chuck Nevitt said:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:22 am
well, it’s someone in the williams camp who had their cheerios pissed in. we just need to find out who.
“Has anybody stopped to think what that could possibly do to that kid’s confidence if he happened to come on this site and saw some of the shit that Trips writes about him.
I haven’t been here in a while (doesn’t look like im missing much), but has trips been doggin’ shawn williams?
maybe he’s the world wide wes of waco or some shit?
and trips, quit writing like you know what you’re talking about. dumb it down some so you don’t come off frontin’.
The General said:
June 30th, 2009 at 6:15 am
ipowers,
I hope you are right about Shawn Williams being as good as Jordan Hamilton. That would be good for Texas. Most of the speculation around Shawn Williams redshirting has centered around Shawn’s history of ankle injury an his need to catch up in strength and conditioning areas. Also, the fact that playing time may be hard to come by at shooting guard, where Texas has six guards (if J’Covan is cleared) for two spots.
That Shawn Williams is one inch taller than Jordan Hamilton is a surprise. In most publications, Williams is listed at 6-6.5 while Jordan is listed at 6-7 or 6-8. I expect those to be exaggerations, but relatively equal exaggerations.
“This notion that Jordan Hamilton is more talented than Shawn Williams is the most asinine thing I have ever heard.
This comment to me, means you think Shawn is much better than Jordan. If you thought they were equal, you wouldn’t think that it was asinine to like one over the other. If they are equal, then it is reasonable to have an opinion that one is better than the other. After all, mileage may vary.
Why do you assume Trips isn’t privy to the same kind of connections that you claim to have? Has BC provided a bio? Do you not recall a major level basketball player named Trips Right (Mrs. Right must have had a sense of humor, right?).
If you want to attack Trips’ credibility, by all means, go ahead. You are on solid ground. Anyone who has received a midnight on Tuesday call from an irate Trips yelling at you to turn on the ESPN Ocho feed of St. Mary’s and San Diego U., and calling you names like Sailor and Scipio and Hank Jim (that’s just creepy) and yelling incorrect ramblings about saggy man D (that sounds dirty) and dribble drive motion (that sounds dirtier) for ten minutes before you convince him you are not someone named Drew, would frankly welcome some credibility attacks.
But, unless you have some shadily gained dossier, you don’t have a clue who Trips is. He could be Michael Jordan (he certainly isn’t a worse talent evaluator than Jordan) for all you know. So write a coherent argument against TR’s opinions (I disagree with quite a few myself), and I am sure Sailor Ripley would post them.
Spewing vitriol and name dropping internet arguments, while entertaining, only make you look like a fucking moron.
You never know. Considered and reasoned internet debate may lead to a genuine understanding between you and Trips. Maybe y’all become friends. Maybe something more. Maybe you wind up twisting around on a water bed all lubed up like a couple of eels with boners. You never know.
Regards,
TG
Huckleberry said:
June 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Before I take sides, I need to ask a single question.
ipowers -
For the record, what are your takes on team chemistry and clutchiness?
BatesHorn said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:03 am
As long as ipowers hangs around for the first collective Greg Davis freakout of the football season, I can die a happy man.
Trips Right said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I’m 100% sure ipowers is Scipio. I believe it with every fiber of my being. My retribution will be harsh, and at a time of my choosing.
As for the General. Your imagery frightens me, sir. It’s fucking funny, but really scary at the same time.
The General said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:25 am
If that is Scip, then my last paragraph is a prophecy that has already been fulfilled.
Shock G said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:30 am
I’m the one that put the satin in your panties..
phegs
Vasherized said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Maybe you wind up twisting around on a water bed all lubed up like a couple of eels with boners.
Definitely sounds like game day in the bay area.
8straight said:
June 30th, 2009 at 8:37 am
I just talked to Limbaugh and Hannity. They agreed with everything ipowers said.
The Republicans said:
June 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
And what Scipio said as well
ipowers said:
June 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
IKnow trips has no real credentials, if he did he would be writing for a more credible site, like ESPN, Rivals,or Scout. He doesn’t. MY brother is an AAU coach and I travel to a lot of events with him and his team and just being on the circuit you get an opportunity to see a lot of kids and meet a lot of people. And no my brother is not Shawn’s dad nor does he coach Shawn4 AAU team, he played for his dad on the circuit. I normally don’t like telling people who I know or where I’ve been, but Trips feels like he knows everything and I hate that kind of shit. If Trips was connected he wouldn’t have to report on the Jordan Classic which everybody watched on tv, or had to call an AAU coach friend of his to get a scouting report, and he wouldn’t have to try to analyze an interview from Rick Barnes without talking to the man himself.
The General said:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Dude, this is a blog for Texas fans that fills a whole in the current media’s reporting, specifically shit that’s funny, well written, and not covered by national press. Everyone here is paid on the sex slave wage scale (except for Vasherized is paid in fatty brisket aroma from Smitty’s and Henry James has a low limit account at Eastern Secrets that is constantly in arrears). Many of the pieces synthesize information so that Texas fans who don’t give a fuck about the NBA draft or whatever can read how it effects our sports programs.
So, dude, chill the fuck out. And hit the return key and shit.
Huckleberry said:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Wait a minute. Wait a goddamn minute.
We don’t have real credentials? What the hell is this badge Sailor Ripley mailed me good for, then? That son of a bitch.
You don’t actually expect us to be bothered by the fact that we’re not part of the normal sports media, do you? I mean, damn, just the thought that I’m not as credentialed as Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless keeps me up at night.
ipowers said:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Nike
Trips Right said:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Which AAU team?
Bill Little said:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I have credentials.
Vasherized said:
June 30th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
IKnow trips has no real credentials, if he did he would be writing for a more credible site, like ESPN, Rivals,or Scout.
And where did credentials get the Detroit Free Press? Chicago Sun Times? Philadelphia Inquirer? Seattle Post Intelligencer? Minneapolis Star Tribune? Or just as of today, Vibe Magazine?
In the BK hizzy. And I’m not talking about Burger King. BANKRUPTCY, brocheese.
So as far as we’re concerned, the less credentials the better. We got street cred, and that’s all that matters in the East O. And Belmont.
I am a little curious what that bag of shit Sailor sent via low cost freight is really good for.
Facebook User said:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Shit, man. We have a staff photographer. You can see of his work here and here.
HenryJames said:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I also photographed Scipio’s wedding, but he refuses to allow me to publish the pics until the state of California recognizes it.
The General said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Huck,
Does the badge say “Deputy Dog”?
Yeah, that’s what I though.
TG
Facebook User said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
TG – You can earn your Wolf Badge if you ever complete one of the seven posts you have started. I’m still waiting for The Elephant In The Room.
The General said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I think I just got called into the principals office.
Facebook User said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Trips Right said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
The eels with boners reference should count as an article on The General’s commission statement.
HenryJames’ gay marriage reference should net him a credit toward the Mediterranean Cruise.
Facebook User said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Well, sure. Eels go a long way. Waterland is a great read.
Vasherized said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
This payroll thing has come up a lot lately so let’s be clear: Sailor pays himself every week.
This might as well be the Landmark Forum. The only thing that trickles down is life lessons. And the requirement that we sign up 10 new readers every week. Or else…
Trips Right said:
June 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
By the way, I just had a sceance with Red Auerbach and he said this is the best draft analysis he’s seen to date.
Oh, and a consortium of college coaches asked if they could subscribe to my newsletter. I’ve got the emails to prove it. Pow!!!!
srr50 said:
June 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Payroll?
Hell, I thought this was a training ground to become the next Bill Little.
ipowers said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
From Andy Katz from ESPN-Barnes said, with or without James, the Longhorns will be a “really good” next season with Gary Johnson and Dexter Pittman up front, along with newcomer Shawn Williams. Barnes said Pittman has the potential to be a lottery pick. The perimeter would have a rotation of Justin Mason, Dogus Balbay and newcomers Avery Bradley and Florida transfer Jai Lucas, whom Barnes said is “better than I thought.” Lucas will be eligible in mid-December.
ipowers said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=katz_andy&month=5&year=2009
Facebook User said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Seems like Trips said Dex was first round money 50 pounds ago when he was getting splinters in his ass.
ipowers said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I guess no matter what Trips is going to be right. No acknowledgement of the fact that Rick Barnes obviously has Shawn Williams in his plans. That’s the shit I’m talking about. Now why don’t you read into the fact that he didn’t mention Jordan Hamilton’s name like Trips speculated about Barnes not mentioning Shawn’s name and suggesting that he was going to redshirt this year. As far as him redshirting because of needing to get stronger, last I heard he was close to 210 from what I was told and I saw him at the Elite Camp and that looked about right. I believe that was more than Durant came in weighing so let’s kill that shit. By the way Trips recognizing that Pittman could go in the first round wasn’t some great talent evaluation on his part. Anybody with eyes could see that Pittman had two things that big men need and that’s good hands and feet.
Trips Right said:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Shawn Williams is more talented than Kevin Durant.
dick said:
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I hate to kill the humor of this thread but Chad Ford has an intial ranking of his 2010 draft prospects and he has Avery Bradley at #18, Damion James at 35, Jordan Hamilton at #48, Dexter Pittman at 92. Strange rankings on Jordan and Dex. Surely he has to think Dex can get drafted.
Chad Ford's a JAG said:
July 1st, 2009 at 4:14 am
Pittman’s a lottery pick if he stays healthy.
The General said:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:07 am
Pittman is a lottery pick if he averages 25-30 minutes a night.
ipowers said:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Say General your starting to sound real ignorant like Dicks Right. Shawn is 6-7 to 6-8 any listing for him otherwise is an outdated one. Like I keep trying to tell you fucks, this isn’t something that I have to get from somewhere else like you do relying on what some scouting report listing has him at. He does have a tendency to turn his left ankle quite a bit, but his ankle isn’t broken motherfucker, what reason would they have to redshirt him ? Are far as him having to get stronger as a reason to redshirt, he weighs 208 right now, while he does need to get bigger and stronger, he’s not 175 lbs. either. The guys that you rattled off in the backcourt have no effect on Shawn because Shawn is a small forward, frontcourt not backcourt buddy. Coach Barnes is not going to start Ward, Balbay, or Mason together with Bradley and have 3 guys on the perimeter where the tallest guy is 6-3,how far did playing those guys get him last year. That’s the whole reason he went out and recruited two 6-7 to 6-8 kids because he felt like one of the reasons they lost to Memphis in the regional final in 08 was because they weren’t big enough on the perimeter, I know that for a fact. Currently Shawn is the only small forward on the fucking roster and they’re best shooter on a team that has no other shooters, so Barnes is going to redshirt his best shooter and currently his only small forward ? Real smart genius.
hiphopopotamus said:
July 1st, 2009 at 5:21 pm
I literally just stumbled across this and went through it from beginning to end. Sailor, could you get us an ipowers over at OreadBoomKings? I think I speak for everyone when I say that we’ll do just about anything.
Vasherized said:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
You can just have ours. Really, he’s yours.