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The Thumbsucker Proxy
Posted by TaylorTRoom on June 10th, 2009 under Baseball, Basketball, Football
Evidently, there is some controversy in B/CS about the Chancellor’s annual review of the main campus’ president…
Quite a professional operation they’re running there…
However, when the story first broke, there was an interesting tidbit of information. In the university president’s rebuttal of the poor review, she mentions that the TAMU Athletic Department had borrowed $16 million from the university, and had not developed a good plan to repay it. This had happened under former TAMU president Bob Gates.
The initial reports were that this was a $16 million line of credit. Now, that in itself isn’t damning. Lots of businesses have lines of credit to cover gaps between expenditures and revenues. A line of credit representing over 20% of the budget is a little high, but more the reason to borrow it from a source that will give you low rates, right?
Wrong. The latest installment…
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/AM_athletic_director_backs_16_million_loan.html
This was not a line of credit. It was an interest free loan in 2006, that had to be repaid from 2010 thru 2019. I estimate such a deal as being worth $4 – 6 million transferred to the AD from the university. Chicken feed, really. I mean, really, this is chicken feed. This is Texas A&M, and they spend this much on actual chicken feed each year.
Also, note these excerpts from Bill Byrne’s explanation of why this isn’t an issue.
Byrne said none of the $16 million loan has been used on any new construction — that’s all been privately funded, he said. Instead, it’s been used to cover an increase in the cost of scholarships, electrical and plumbing issues and simply fixing new problems on old buildings, among other things. For instance, the light poles on Kyle’s east side.
That’s reassuring, to know that the gap in spending was not due to one time expenditures on buildings, but rather to an inability to meet regular operating costs. It’s like when your wife tells you not to worry about having to move money from savings to checking- it’s not due to those new dresses (her mother paid for them); rather, it’s due to the high electric and water bills. Reassuring, right?
Byrne said the department has cut costs, for example, by axing media guides for every sport but football this coming school year.
“That will save us about $250,000 in printing costs,” Byrne said, adding that the Big 12 athletic directors also have voted to nix football media guides starting next year.
Good! That leaves only a $3.75 million annual shortfall, $2.75 million if the old poles stop rusting. Add $1.6 million to repay the loan, and they’re withing $4.3 million of breaking even!
The situation isn’t helped by the unscheduled millions the Ags pay to ex-coaches. In 2002, firing RC cost $2.1 million ($1.1 million as a payout to Alabama, and $1 million to Slocum). They are currently paying $4.4 million to Fran. The only AD I can find with a burden close to that is Clemson’s, which is paying $3.5 million to Tommy Bowden.
Look, this isn’t a crisis…yet. There is a way out- win football games. Years ago, Dodds used to say that he could tell you what UT’s AD financial shape would be next year if you would tell him how many football games we would win. he said 8 wins was the break even point- win less and we lose money, win more and we make money. Byrne understands that- his prior job was at a place that used to win 9 games every year for as long as most could remember.
Things will only get interesting if the Ags have a poor football season next year. They are in no position to buy out a coach’s contract. Sherman has six more years at $1.7 million per year. If they have a poor season, they just may have to ride it out, due to the high buyout expense. The fanbase will not appreciate this, should it occur, and may start inquiring about the cost of a new Athletic Director. I look at the Baylor game as a key guidepost. Losing to the Bears in 2009 would cause the TAMU Athletic Department, and Bill Byrne specifically, a lot of trouble.
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colorado ag, Utah State is as athletic as Nebraska. You’ll be fine as long as they don’t go 16 for 31 from three.
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Scip, like a peaceful Indian in the 1800’s, I never trust a Mormon that can shoot. Utah State has me worried.
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CJD -
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uthookem-
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kevwun said:
June 10th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Bat shit removal is expensive.
EnglishAg said:
June 10th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
completely agree, bat shit is expensive to remove.
in the short term it doesn’t look great, however, the $1m per year that is flowing into the former coach’s bank account needs to be taken into account (as does the added insurance premium to take account of gene stallings crazy gene). neither wont go on for ever.
one thing that sets tamu and tu apart is the size of the fan base. you have cornered the market in fans that never attended your school. further, tu has always had more students (and therefore former students) than tamu – although this is slowly equalising due to the rapid growth of tamu in the 1990’s.
provided that tamu continues to instill ‘pride’ in the university, there will be a larger market for branded maroon tat.
end game (and with a bit of luck) this facility will have done nothing more than cover the lead time between the spending that was needed and where tamu sees itself after a few more 10,000-15,000 student senior classes.
Black Scholes said:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:04 am
“…you have cornered the market in fans that never attended your school…”
It’s the flagship university of the state of Texas. Why can’t you jackasses understand that? You’re the agricultural school. It’s really not that f*ing complicated. Even for farmers.
EnglishAg said:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:35 am
whoa there. did i suggest that ut’s ‘fanbase’ was a bad thing?
my point was that a+m is no longer an agricultural school for farmers. it has over 40,000 students (with 15% of enrolees from overseas).
over time and as revenues rise, an interest free and unindexed facility like this will fall by the wayside.
Barry Switzer said:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:39 am
Time to up the ante to key recruits.
TaylorTRoom said:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:54 am
English Ag, I don’t follow what you’re getting at. Are you saying that TAMU’s problem is too little revenue? They have as much revenue as any other Big 12 school outside of Austin. TAMU gets about $75 million in AD revenue, similar to OU and NU with much smaller student bodies.
As for 10,000 – 15,000 person senior classes- is that hyperbole? I think 8,500 is as big as Texas’ graduating class ever gets. TAMU has been about the same size as Texas, in number of students, for about 25 years now. Isn’t it time to put that excuse away?
It seems to me that TAMU’s AD budget problems are a result of underpeforming at football and overspending on everything else.
uthookem said:
June 11th, 2009 at 5:46 am
“you have cornered the market in fans that never attended your school.”
Since Mack has arrived and we started winning football games, yes. Go back to the late 80s and 90s and every redneck in East Texas had tamu hats, stickers, and flags. They have now migrated to Texas, but if we start losing and tamu recovers (hah—will be a while, huh?) then they’ll switch back.
BEHorn said:
June 11th, 2009 at 6:12 am
“over time and as revenues rise, an interest free and unindexed facility like this will fall by the wayside.”
I would have thought that today’s marketplace brought into stark relief the risk of assuming that “revenues rise”. Rather, you have to ask “if” they’ll rise, and why. Nothing in TAMU’s current arc in either of the two key revenue sports (men’s football and bball) suggests a meaningful rise in revenue is anywhere on the near- to mid-term horizon.
Plan B: Get the milkmen to do a volunteer bat-shit removal cheer, or something …
Parlin Hall said:
June 11th, 2009 at 6:49 am
The EtchASketch is genius.
For those that haven’t followed the story, TAMU’s President, Elsa Murano, received a handwritten performance review. Needless to say, it was not so positive. Her response suggests she could be given a spot here as a guest columnist:
“Only a president who is deceitful, malicious, or who is known to break rules or even the law would rate this low on these very important character traits,” Murano said. “Such a low rating regarding my honesty and integrity goes beyond the pale and I consider personally insulting. This rating besmirches my character in a way that I vehemently disagree with.”
EnglishAg said:
June 11th, 2009 at 6:55 am
TaylorT
The point is more that I consider it more of a bridge financing and over time this will not be an issue.
A+M is spending an awful lot on new facilities and will continue to do so (in terms of interest payments). However, they will not need to make these capital outlays so their costs should balance out (as facilities are paid off).
In time, their revenue should rise – it is certianly not low in comparison to others, but it could be higher. This table shows that the number of students at A+M increased massively.
http://www.tamu.edu/oisp/factbook/Enrollment/historic2.htm
While the total enrolment is not likely to go above 50,000, over time there will be more graduates from A+M. Given the relationship between former students and the A+M, revenues will grow with the alumini base.
Other than that, as you rightly point out, winning football games means that A+M will not have to fire coaches. Further, it should claw back market share for ‘fans’ from LSU and UT in east texas thereby increasing revenues and reducing costs.
For the record I would sell the naming rights to Kyle Field and reduce the number of (reduced face value) student tickets. This of course will not happen.
CloseToJumping said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Listen, there is no real uncertainty in regard to how the aggie football team is going to perform this season. The Baylor game will tell us nothing. That is a story of two programs headed in completely different directions.
Baylor, and you’re initial reaction, whoever is reading this, will be to laugh, but Baylor should be favored to win the B12 South in 2010. It isn’t just about Griffin. They have a lot of sophomore and junior talent on that team, while everybody else loses a bunch. Their last class wasn’t bad and the upcoming class won’t be either.
Anyway, this season, Baylor is a bowl team. ATM, who will probably start out 3-0 before being kicked in the face by Arkansas, will not be anything close to a bowl team. Baylor will beat the shit out of them again, just as they did last year, only now the two teams are further apart.
ATM is in a battle this season for the bottom of the Big 12 with Iowa State. With Sherman at the helm, and he will be for the foreseeable future, they will remain there. We’re entering a glorious period where ATM is no longer simply mediocre in football. They are going to be downright bad. I am going to revel in it, as a child of the late 80’s/early 90’s, when they cheated their way into the hearts of my idiotic blue collar friends and neighbors.
Stuck in MN said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Yes, my reaction was to laugh. While your point that Baylor is on an upward swing is well taken, being favored to win the Big 12 South takes more than a couple of classes that are not bad. I can certainly see a situation where thay are picked third though.
CloseToJumping said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Should have been “your”. I hate the non-edit.
BatesHorn said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am
“Bluecollar?”
I’d love to check in with all the rich asses at Westlake who carried on in the late eighties/early nineties in A&M and Corp attire. I’d bet good money they got a closet full of burnt orange now. Probably traded in their Yankee caps for Red Sox gear a couple of years ago too.
Tim said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:41 am
I think you’re stretching to say that Baylor will be favored to win the south in 2010. I don’t specifically know how much UT, OU, and OSU are losing but they all three are losing a lot of key players assuming those who can come out do.
That leaves A&M, Baylor, and Texas Tech with returning key players in the South. Assuming no injury or grade losses Tech is returning at least 18 starters in 2010, with what should be 95% of their tackles on defense per game returning.
With A&M, Baylor, and Tech the ones returning the most you’re giving Baylor the nod for 2010???
8straight said:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:01 am
The problem with trying to project that a school like Baylor will win a championship because of upper class men is that often schools like OU and Texas plug in red shirt freshmen and sophomore classes which are better.
CloseToJumping said:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:04 am
You can “see” what you like, Stuck in MN. I didn’t type that they will be favored, however, I simply typed that they should be. I don’t expect the talking heads, the fish hacks, or most fans to comprehend it or give it any credence. That will simply serve as entertainment for me.
Griffin is a dynamic player, a shade below VY and on par with about everybody else you can name. If you don’t believe that, as a junior, he can elevate himself in conjunction with a decently talented team to give Baylor a once in two decade shot to win the South, I understand.
History is a poor indicator in terms of reading past specifics for future projections, which is not my problem. At a macro level, history can tell us a lot of things, though. In this line of thinking, it offers many similar examples in college football land. Wake won the ACC 2-3 years ago. Northwestern won the Big 10 twice. Ole Miss is a dark horse national title contender THIS YEAR.
Levander Williams said:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:04 am
CTJ – it was more than the ‘blue collar’ EastTex crowd that succumbed to the Cult of Ag in the 80s and 90s. I was one of the 10-15 who managed to break against the tide of graduates from my TAMU-feeder campus high school, many of which were living in higher-end neighborhoods.
Still, I share your glee at the prospect of a bottom-dwelling Texas A&M football team. They remain, bar none, the absolutely most insufferable fan base anywhere at any level, and watching their misery never gets old.
CloseToJumping said:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Oh, and no one projected a championship. I typed that they should be favored. Some of you use your jump to conclusion mats at the drop of a hat.
I think I will put up a thread on this in the near future, as it is fun to discuss, especially since it’s something that most people are unwilling to think on.
Ojnab Bob said:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Turning to 2009, CTJ, Baylor could be a radically improved team and still go 5-7 or 6-6: their schedule is that difficult.
I do agree with your evaluation of Griffin, and as a Nebraska fan, I do think we probably have less than a 50/50 shot in Waco this fall.
uthookem said:
June 11th, 2009 at 9:01 am
I’ll buy it CTJ – less based on Griffin and more based on Briles. That dude is a cock-gobling sack of shit in my book (which means very little), but he can coach. I remember how many people were ready to name him the UT OC just a few years ago…
Hook ‘em!
RansomStoddard said:
June 11th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Mack Brown has done more to wreck aggy finances than any other single factor
Stuck in MN said:
June 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I’m not sure where the pissed off attitude comes from in your response to me, CTJ. You said they should be favored, I said I don’t think they should be favored. My response had nothing to do with historical trends, but was based on talent levels of their last couple of classes.
Could they win like Wake and Northwestern? Sure. But I just don’t think they should be the favorite.
Nordberg said:
June 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am
How many of Baylor’s 85 were offered by either Texas or OU?
The General said:
June 11th, 2009 at 11:25 am
What is the over/under on the number of bodies chopped into unrecognizable small pieces in CTJ’s Basement? I’d put it at 6.5.
Demographic breakdown of that 6.5:
2.5 Inconsiderate Motorists
2 Starbucks baristas
1 General Douchebag Poser
1 Tragically Unlucky Migrant Worker
Vasherized said:
June 11th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Don’t forget the 2nd string fullbacks.
Nordberg said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Even odds Carl Reese is down there somewhere.
SL Xpress said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
A mannequin made in the likeness of Blake Gideon is in there somewhere.
Black Scholes said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Longhorn Bob?
Or are we still thinking Witness Protection?
The General said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Vegas is getting nervous because of the heavy betting on the over.
Blake Gideon's Mannequin said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
And we can build this dream together! Stand this storm forever! Nothing’s gonna stop us now, CTJ!
BatesHorn said:
June 11th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I’m going hard on the over. I guarantee there’s at least a couple of scrawny Austin hipster’s down there. No doubt.
scally said:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
honestly, i think it’s just dibollhorn and tex(aus)that he killed. ctj likes to wear tex(aus)’ scalp as a merkin.
Visual imagery of the above said:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Don’t do it.
Gouging my eyes out with a spoon said:
June 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Too late.
List Eater said:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I’d like to help, but everytime I make a “To Do” list I eat it.
Gorbachev said:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Getting back to the original post, I will share my Perastroika reforms with the A&M Board of Regents. How else can one survive a Cold War with the nation that we dare not name?
BiggUggly said:
June 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Only a president who is deceitful, malicious, or who is known to break rules or even the law would rate this low on these very important character traits,” Murano said. “Such a low rating regarding my honesty and integrity goes beyond the pale and I consider personally insulting. This rating besmirches my character in a way that I vehemently disagree with.”
Anyone else find it interesting that the president of anm is unaware that you never use a preposition to end a sentence with?
Black Scholes said:
June 11th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
If you read McKinney’s efforts, prepositions are the least of the issues surrounding the writing efforts of the aggy leadership.
ATXHornsFan said:
June 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Threads like this are exactly why I read BC. Nice work everyone. Very entertaining.
P.S. I’ll take the over and bet 11.
Billy Gillispie said:
June 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Did someone say buy-out?
NateHeupel said:
June 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I’ll take the over, and I’m going with a baker’s dozen. Hell, there’s probably a baker carved in there somewhere for fucking up his croissant and ruining his morning “coffee experience”.
sinless1 said:
June 12th, 2009 at 6:39 am
>Baylor should be favored to win the B12 South in 2010
>Oh, and no one projected a championship. I typed that they should be favored.
I don’t want to end up in your doghouse (or the basement?), but you are projecting Baylor as the favorite to win the Big 12 South. Torbush, you are way out on a limb there, my friend.
Since you typed Baylor in as the B12 South favorite – but NOT champions – does that mean the B12 North winner is your favorite to beat Baylor in the conf championship game?
This is fun, you should definitely devote a thread to this.
CloseToJumping said:
June 12th, 2009 at 6:59 am
I was at the Astros game on business yesterday afternoon and decided during an inning break to look at this thread. I laughed pretty hard and the people with whom I was watching the game probably thought it was a little weird. Nice work. I don’t have a basement, but I do have a garage.
Anyway, sinless1, my point, while perhaps poorly made in regard to who I’d pick, is that I realistically think they should be favored, although I could see not knowing how to win being a big problem for them. Texas and OU do know how to win, so it wouldn’t shock me if they missed their shot.
As to the B12 North in 2010, I don’t have a convicted opinion yet. I’d like to see who develops as a QB and what their surrounding talent looks like. If Lee and/or Washington at Nebraska develops this year, maybe they’re a legit 10 win team. I don’t doubt that Pellini will put a good defense on the field by 2010. I don’t see Colorado getting itself together. Iowa State? Kansas will be rebuilding. Missouri is a complete unknown. Snyder isn’t dealing with a bare cupboard at KSU and if he works some JUCO magic, KSU could be really competitive again just in time to continue owning us. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nebraska as a legit top 10-15 team in 2010.
Art Vandelay said:
June 12th, 2009 at 7:59 am
sounds like CTJ’s new wife went to Baylor….
HenryJames said:
June 12th, 2009 at 9:53 am
CTJ married a mail order bride who graduated from Kiev University.
Really Old timer UT grad 1980 said:
June 12th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Where the hell is Doperbo-I want to know his opinion on all of this. I bet he’s hiding, leaving malicious comments under different code names. No, for real, I read this white- hot blog and I enjoy reading Doperbo and Joe’s opinions-as well as CTJ, MnHorn, HJ and all the rest. This article was a great new learning experience for me-and I turn 51 on Monday. I’m a proud UT Grad and a loyal Horns fan.
Really Old timer UT grad 1980 said:
June 12th, 2009 at 11:13 am
P.S. While we are on the subject of bat shit, Austin has alot of bats hanging upside down under that one bridge. Can you imagine the expense the city pays to clean up all of their fecal matter?
1980 Old Time UT Alum said:
June 12th, 2009 at 11:23 am
How is UT doing in the fundraising dept.? Maybe they could close the gap that way.
Notable Alumni of Kiev University said:
June 12th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Examples include writer Simeon of Polotsk, architect Ivan Hryhorovych-Barskyi, and composer Artemy Vedel. Ukrainian philosopher Hryhori Skovoroda was another alumnus of the university. Mikhail Lomonosov, Russian scientist and founder of Moscow University was briefly a student at Kyiv Mohyla Academy. In addition, CloseToJumping’s new wife is a very recent alumnus.[76]
The General said:
June 12th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Is picking Baylor to win a conference title two years from now the definition of paranoia?
jimmyjazz said:
June 12th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
If the 2010 Baylor squad is half as defensive as CTJ, they’ll roll through the conference undefeated.
Shaggy Aggie said:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
“Simeon of Polotsk, architect Ivan Hryhorovych-Barskyi, and composer Artemy Vedel. Ukrainian philosopher Hryhori Skovoroda was another alumnus of the university. Mikhail Lomonosov”
From an Aggie cultural perspective, with common names like that, it’s a wonder how Russians ever learn to spell them correctly. Or could Russia be a nation of a bunch of collective misspellers, with names such as “Hryhorovych-Barskyi” being the end result?
I mean, what kind of parent would give their child a name like “Hryhorovych-Barskyi”? If you want to give a slow start to your child, then go ahead and give him a duzzie of a name like that. He’d almost have to go to college just to learn how to spell his own freaking name.
Shaggy Aggie said:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:23 am
The Shag Ag has no problems with the Aggie football program being poor and broke. If you progressively liberal, Homo Horns grew up with traditional family values, then you would indubitably know that having no money and being dead broke builds true grit and character (at least for an Aggie), and, as we all know, true character and grit is what is needed to win on the football field.
Could explain why we poor and broke, outmanned Aggies have beaten your monetarily overabundant, spoiled rotten team two out of the last three years.
Remember the last three years on the football field, Horns? Whose laughing now? Let me guess, probably not you guys no more.
NorthDallasSooner said:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Damn, guys, leave your guy CTJ alone! Eating your own? Lay off the man or Close to Jumping WILL JUMP!
Shaggy Aggie said:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I know one thing: Russian girls are almost all invariably hot. And they don’t even need after birth plastic surgery to become that way, as it is with All American girls. With Russian girls, you can rest assured that you are getting the real thing and not some copy cat, imitation thing made in China.
If all the world were lucky enough to be Russian girls, then there would be no plastic surgeons. There would be no need for them or that tacky ass show, “Dr. 90210″.
the Bobs said:
June 13th, 2009 at 11:38 am
“Anyone else find it interesting that the president of anm is unaware that you never use a preposition to end a sentence with?”
excellent use of irony…
Shaggy Aggie said:
June 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
“Anyone else find it interesting that the president of anm is unaware that you never use a preposition to end a sentence with?”
Ha, Ha, Ha. Very funny, Horns. Yea but doesn’t the grammarian critic know that is not good to be Bigg when you are so Uggly?
And let’s not get into President of the University smack. Your Prez isn’t exactly perfect either. At least our Aggie Prez knows how to get a decent haircut and doesn’t try to be a cool, GQ 60 year old by having the gall to wear one in style which still belongs back in the 70’s.
Alex White said:
June 13th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I would have to think that some of the same fat cats who ponied up to dough for the new facilities would gladly chip in to buy out Shermania, right? Another one time expense.
CloseToJumping said:
June 14th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Your assumption, Alex White, fails to take into account that Sherman is Old Army’s boy and they’re the ones that hired him. They didn’t want to fire RC, and firing Sherman will be even harder. He’s going to get 5-7 years to build the proverbial winner. Let’s enjoy it.