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Posted by Huckleberry on May 30th, 2009 under Baseball
Wow.
Now, first things first. I like Augie Garrido, I really do. I obviously disagree with his offensive strategy and tactics fairly frequently. But what he did to Austin Wood tonight should be criminal. Absolutely inexcusable to throw a young arm for somewhere in the neighborhood of 170 pitches.
There are also beefs with the offensive strategy (how many fruitless bunt attempts does it take to try something new?), but that is the biggest issue coming out of today’s game.
Augie Garrido, Augieball, But Brooks Kiechsnick once threw 168 pitches in a CWS game you ninny!, College Baseball
NorthDallasSooner commented on the blog post The week in news- Pariahs, Malcontents and Power Hour 16 minutes ago
“Coincidentally I maintain a subscription to Texas Monthly magazine in an effort to keep up with my roots in some way, shape or form. The April issue showed up at my house this afternoon and features a fairly in depth article about the ongoing drama between Texas Tech and the Dread Pirate Leach. The more
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Kevin Berger wrote a new blog post: Recapping the East 19 minutes ago
Again, no news is good news when you’re one of the top seeds in the region. That motto holds true in the East as the top four seeds advanced.
Kentucky vs. East Tennessee State
This was a blood bath from the tip. Anyone that thinks this young Wildcat club may have one eye on the
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NorthDallasSooner wrote a new blog post: Rumor Alert–TMG 27 minutes ago
It’s certainly unconfirmed, but I got this email this morning from a friend who follows the hoops program very closely. Stay tuned……
“A very reliable source close to the OU BB program told me yesterday TMG is gone. He packed his bags and unless Capel can talk him out of it our PG for the future has left
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post The week in news- Pariahs, Malcontents and Power Hour 46 minutes ago
Great survey, whiskey. I miss football a lot.
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Kevin Berger wrote a new blog post: Recapping The South 52 minutes ago
There were lots of surprises in this region and a near miss or two that could have really turned this bracket upside down. But after the dust settled, seeds 1 through 4 remain alive…for now anyway.
Duke vs. Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Let’s start at the top where Duke methodically disposed of an Arkansas -Pinebluff cub that gave
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Because We’re Dedicated To Doing Stupid Things – Tiny Gallon Reportedly Took Payout 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Funny, an OU blog talking about a Texas’ team when referencing the state of unrest and embarrassment. I mean, you have such a rich history to draw from. I’ll miss Tiny. Like Sailor, I love his nickname…..
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Because We’re Dedicated To Doing Stupid Things – Tiny Gallon Reportedly Took Payout 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Why do bad things happen to bad people?
I will always love the name Tiny Gallon. I see him being a fan favorite in Turkey and he’s going to love the souvlaki.
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whiskey commented on the blog post The week in news- Pariahs, Malcontents and Power Hour 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
This all might actually work out for Tebow in the end. If nothing else he is both a winner and a fierce competitor. I will be surprised if he goes the way of Eric Crouch. I am also liking Quinn’s chances in Denver. He knows that offense and he will
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Ag_in_TX wrote a new blog post: Utah State Post-Mortem 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
Have You Read the Gospel According To Mark? – Sign hanging in Spokane last night.
At some point, you have to ask if A&M is the best coached team in the Big XII. All due respect to Mr. Self in Kansas – but to use a poker analogy – Self is trying for a flush
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Trips Right wrote a new blog post: Second Round Bets 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
Since my leans are hitting at a better rate than my wagers I’m going to go back to basics and post every thing I like but down to half a unit. We’ll see if that works.
Here goes:
Villanova -4.5: After a scare against Bob Morris, time for the ‘Cats to wake up. Too
Patrick Bateman wrote a new blog post: Texas Turns the Page 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
Well, WTF was that? A train wreck is what. That’s how the entire Texas basketball season can be described. A screaming, screeching, ugly train wreck. After ascending to #1 in the nation for the first time in school history, the wheels just fell off during conference play. You can read all about the final and
Ibas water bottle commented on the blog post Because We’re Dedicated To Doing Stupid Things – Tiny Gallon Reportedly Took Payout 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
At what point do A.Ds stop hiring Duke people? At a certain point former coach K players stop being successful college players and start being coaches with shady recruiting results right?
Oh and God bless the crime rate in Stillwater. The simple odds keep the shit from hitting the fan regularly for us.
Who
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Nate Heupel commented on the blog post Oklahoma Sooners – Recruiting So Far 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
BOC: Neither has visited, yet we hold ’ships open for both.
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Nate Heupel wrote a new blog post: Because We’re Dedicated To Doing Stupid Things – Tiny Gallon Reportedly Took Payout 9 hours, 25 minutes ago
TMZ reports that Tiny Gallon took a $3000 payout from an agent.
My God, Capel has no control over this team whatsoever. This is 2007 offseason Texas football levels of embarrassing. You can’t let a half dozen bad apples spoil a bushel of 10 apples…that analogy sucked balls, but you get my
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Previewing Jimmer and the Cougars 10 hours, 36 minutes ago
Great stuff, bear. really looking forward to this game.
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Nickel Rover commented on the blog post Barnes worst team 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
06_UT: you are probably right. I thought about changing the post description to “least favorite Barnes team” because that’s more accurate but I didn’t feel like it.
That said, I’m not sure this team would beat those other two. They would lose Abrams and let him go 7-15 on 3s and the Abrams team played better
admin commented on the blog post Nike U in Turmoil 10 hours, 42 minutes ago
Aren’t they building some sort of super duper hoops arena? Most expensive ever bilt or something?
Who will the get? Mark Few?
Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Nike U in Turmoil 10 hours, 42 minutes ago
Aren’t the building some sort of super duper hoops arena? Most expensive ever bilt or something?
Who will the get? Mark Few?
srr50 wrote a new blog post: Nike U in Turmoil 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
10 weeks ago, Oregon played in the Rose Bowl as Pac 10 champions. Since their loss to Ohio State, the program has been in some kind of bizzaro parallel universe where every headline concerns a player arrest, a firing, or now a resignation.
Mike Bellotti, the Duck AD and former head coach earlier this week
Luke commented on the blog post First Round: Clemson Tigers 13 hours, 10 minutes ago
Prescient comment, Doc.
I think we learned today that no team is really a mirror image of Missouri, even if Clemson is about as close as it gets. Unless you have significantly better/more talented athletes, if you try to run with the Tigers, you will lose. This team is so much fun to watch in games
srr50 commented on the blog post March Madness Open Thread Part Deaux 13 hours, 24 minutes ago
Good to see that Tom Penders still believes in the weave offense. Maryland finally figured out that if you pass quickly, the middle is always open.
37-29 Maryland late in the first half.
Luke wrote a new blog post: Previewing Jimmer and the Cougars 13 hours, 25 minutes ago
Kansas State is going to be under a lot of pressure tomorrow night in primetime at the Ford Center.
Not only are the Wildcats the favored #2 seed going against #7 seed BYU, but if the Wildcats lose, they may sentence hundreds of boys to nonstop harassment from all the kids who think that “Jimmer” was
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Ibas water bottle wrote a new blog post: Georgia Tech post mortem 13 hours, 37 minutes ago
We came up short.
Credit to Georgia Tech they worked the ball inside where they had the advantage and played great D on the perimeter. Matt Pilgrim is the most athletic big man we’ve had in years around here and he was irrelevant. When we tried to drive they collapsed like Chris Farley on a
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Phenomenal Smith commented on the blog post First Round: Clemson Tigers 14 hours, 12 minutes ago
Doc, the turnovers seemed to do the trick – there were great big chunks of time when Mizzou didn’t even have to get into a half court offense.
Great to see Ramsey have such a good game and pretty stifle Booker. As Euclid said during the game, even when Mizzou doesn’t play well
dick commented on the blog post Barnes worst team 14 hours, 52 minutes ago
“Also because those other teams gave great effort almost every game. This team’s effort was questionable. Dumb and lazy, not a good combo…..”
This is what made this season so bizarre for me. This has never been a problem for Barnes’ teams. But I actually questioned this team’s heart and desire to play together
srr50 commented on the blog post March Madness Open Thread Part Deaux 15 hours, 5 minutes ago
Travis Ford spent the 2nd half channeling his inner Rick Barnes — lot’s of standing around on offense while one player tries to generate something off a ball screen — then taking a forced shot.
So the Big 12 goes 5-2 in Round One.
skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Barnes worst team 15 hours, 10 minutes ago
This is the worst coached team ever in Barnes era. Period.
Worst defense over the whole season,
Offense sucked big time and the bench coaching was horrible, ransom’s attitude was better then the coach’s overall this season.
Trips write up pre and post better then the game plan and O schemes.
Hell we could have
srr50 commented on the blog post March Madness Open Thread Part Deaux 15 hours, 14 minutes ago
advertisers think they will probably get some deals for the additional 32 games that would be added. The feeling is that an ESPN would disount rates somewhat, since they already have a dual revenue stream — advertising dollars and subscription fees.
It’s all about content for ESPN — even mediocre content.
dick commented on the blog post FLV March Madness First Round Bets 15 hours, 15 minutes ago
a great first round of the tournament from an excitement standpoint, very mediocre from a gambling standpoint.
srr50 commented on the blog post March Madness Open Thread Part Deaux 15 hours, 31 minutes ago
Ga. Tech — last in the ACC in free throw shooting at 64% — 13 for 13 tonight.
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CrazyJoeDavola66 said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
You gotta feel for those BC guys. I can’t imagine how they’ll win tomorrow’s game.
Hell, I can’t imagine how they’ll be able to play tomorrow’s game.
Texoz said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
You should put “Wood,” “stamina” and “endurance” in your Tags list. It would bring in an interesting blogger crowd.
Back to the game. Agree about risking the health of Wood’s arm. I know he’s young, but that can’t be good???
Scipio Tex said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
In terms of decision-making: how about pinch hitting for Kevin Keyes early when Keyes was 2 for 3 with a HR and a double?
I agree on Wood. On one level, I was absolutely in awe of his performance. On another level, I cringed at every pitch past 100. He threw 30 pitches a day earlier, BTW. 199 pitches in two days is not taking care of your kid.
Happy for the win. Seven hours of baseball. Damn.
Huckleberry said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Yeah, the Keyes thing made me shake my head at the time, but it’s hard to say at this point how bad that decision was on its own merit.
Obviously the fact that the game lasted 25 innings made the decision a terrible one, but you can’t consider that kind of thing at the time. Either way, I disagreed with it when it happened.
dick said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I can’t beleive we still have the luxury of Jungmann and Workman tomorrow. Hopefully, we just finish whoever off in the first game tomorrow and get everyone rested for next weekend.
Greg Swindell said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Pitch count is overrated. Ws are what gets your name on the wall.
SizzleChest said:
May 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I want to bitch slap Augie for what he did to that kid tonight. Fuck him and his Chicano bravado bullshit. You don’t take “I feel OK” to mean it’s alright to let a 20 year old kid throw 200 pitches in 2 days.
shazam said:
May 30th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
regardless of the criminal activity against wood, that game was epic. i can’t imagine either of the teams playing tomorrow after that.
Devil's Advocate said:
May 30th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Austin told the coaches he wasn’t leaving the game. He’s got a rubber arm and some people just don’t hold to the normal constraints of pitch counts (i.e. Tim Lincecum, Burt Hooten threw 13 innings of 1 hit ball years ago). His 3/4 sidearm motion doesn’t put the same type of strain on his shoulder as normal pitchers and to go along with that he’s just an advanced specimen. The decision was Austin’s and he said his arm felt fine afterward. Wood earned legendary status with the performance tonight in an absolute must win game.
Nth Handle said:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:12 am
Shoeless Joe Cockshuck once threw both ends of a double header, worked long relief the next day, and played right field for the last 3 innings nailing a couple of dudes at the plate from the fowl pole. Pitch count schmitch count.
Kriess said:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:10 am
I agree with DEvil’s Advocate:
The kid is 22. He knows his limits as he’s been pitching since he was 9. I’ve played with him on a select league back in Humble and against him in HS baseball…the kid has a rubber arm. The term means that he doesnt use normal mechanics to create velocity, but rather to “sling shot” the ball using leverage of his body weight.
Of course this is “looked down upon” by the heigher ups in baseball, particularily in the pros as correct mechanics will rule the day in their eyes. His way of throwing isn’t great for long term success, but it will get him where he needs to be for the majors. He’s a closer and no one after this season will pitch him this way again. He’s going to need surgery by the time his career is over, but due only to his mechanics, not his high pitch count in one game.
FYI, Lincecum is not a Rubber Arm. He has unbelieveable mechanics in his pitching. ALL of his velocity comes from his waist down, and not his arm. Thats why he is a starter in the bigs. J Brent Coxx was a rubber arm as well, Huston Street is one to an extent. Most closers in NCAA do this.
RansomStoddard said:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:57 am
I bet Wood is stiff this morning
Art Vandelay said:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:58 am
Ransom, I’m sure he can just rub it out.
Do you guys think Augie puts too much pressure on these kids with his business like approach? Stranding 24 runners for the game and hitting 2-of-21 with runners in scoring position sounds like a tight team.
I’m not saying you need a big dog pile after winning the Big 12 tourney, but let the kids have some fun.
My 2 cents from my sofa.
Thoughts?
Moneyball said:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:59 am
6 runs in 34 innings over two days. Why would you suggest there’s anything wrong with an offensive strategy generating that kind of output?
Nolan Ryan said:
May 31st, 2009 at 5:40 am
Absolutely inexcusable to throw a young arm for somewhere in the neighborhood of 170 pitches.
Pussies.
TXexpress said:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:42 am
Kreiss is right about Devil’s Advocate being right.
I’ve been critical all season about how Wood has been used. I think he’s come into way too many games way too soon. And I was surprised to see him as the first man in last night after his outing the night before.
But last night was beyond belief. Wood came back for his senior season precisely for moments like last night. Who among us would shy away from it?
Should the coaches have pulled the plug? Debatable, but as long as he was mowing them down the way he was, who doesn’t ride a hot pitcher as far as he will carry you?
Now … if Wood comes within 50 yards of the mound the rest of this tournament, we’ll talk.
MarkPrior said:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:45 am
Yeah. Fuck Pitch Counts.
(Kerry Wood also agrees)>
Coach Gus said:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:53 am
169 pitches is a lot? Hell, I’d start him tonight.
Obligitorially Outraged Texas Fan said:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:10 am
So many of you are not only missing the point, you’re missing an opportunity.
Bob in Houston said:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:13 am
I can’t imagine that Wood was physically prepared to throw that many pitches. When he was cramping up after 10 or so, which is about three innings more than I thought made sense, that should have been a signal to quit.
The BC coach probably deserves the same sort of criticism for what he did with his guy.
I hated that stuff when Gus did it, when Wayne Graham did it, and last night. But those guys make their living on winning games, not how many healthy kids they put into pro ball.
Texoz said:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:17 am
“So many of you are not only missing the point, you’re missing an opportunity”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You mean like this?
TV Announcer, “Tonight’s Regional final game, Texas vs Boston College, is brought to you by Viagra.”
Ojnab Bob said:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:20 am
Garrido’s offensive style was state-of-the-art back in the 1911, when Home Run Baker led the AL with an incredible 11 home runs in 659 AB.
In the post-dead-ball era, however, endless sacrifice bunts and other small-ball strategies just don’t make good mathematical sense.
Btw, is Austin Wood UT’s leading pro prospect? Despite his brilliance, I wonder if last night’s performance actually hurt his draft position – some teams have to be terrified of 200 pitches in 2 days. If what Garrido did to Wood is not criminal, it may at least be a tort.
Groundhog Day said:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:20 am
Amazing performance by Wood. 12 and 1/3 innings of no hit ball in relief.
What an incredible 24 hours of sports as the king of Clay (Rafa) is handed his first ever defeat at Roland Garros to Sweden’s Robin Soderling 6-2 6-7(2-7) 6-4 7-6(7-2). In fact this is the first time he has dropped a set in 2 years.
This is why we watch sports. Kudos to Wood and Soderling. Incredible performances.
CloseToJumping said:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:37 am
Exactly, Groundhog. The first thing I thought was “What an amazing performance by a UT pitcher”. Then that was immediately followed with “and some foreign dude in tennis did something amazing against another foreign dude in France today”. Those two things go together like ethics and Oklahoma.
MIA said:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:44 am
Kenny Powers could throw 170 pitches with his scrotum.
Texoz said:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:22 am
Baseball is a stat freak’s wet dream. So many variables and so many records. Excuse me while I rub on the ole rosin bag.
There’s already a few we know about and were mentioned on air.
- Longest game in college history (25 innings)
- Most at bats by one player in one game (12)
I don’t know if these are records, but…
- most strikeouts by one player in one game (6)
- most strike outs by two teams in one game (42, 20 by UT and 22 by BC)
- fewest pitchers used in any game over 20 innings? Texas (3)
- most innings pitched by one pitcher in one game (13 by Wood)
- most consecutive hitless innings in one game by one pitcher. Wood (12 1/3 innings)
FYI, as a team UT batted .220 with 91 ABs. If you take out Rowe, Keyes and Clark’s ABs and hits (9 of 24), the team’s average for 67 ABs is .164
Here’s the stat sheet.
Texoz said:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:28 am
One more mind blowing stat.
Texas “hitters” had 20 hits and 5 walks with 91 ABs. And I believe one HBP. That’s 26 runners on base. They stranded 24. Torres gets the honor of leaving 10 of those on base.
maninblack said:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:39 am
Watching us continually bunt last night was maddening.
Earl Weaver said:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:42 am
Mmmmmm….free outs…..mmmmmmm
coolhorn said:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:43 am
What Wood did yesterday defies description. It was one of the greatest pitching performances at any level, ever. That being said, Augie should have to answer for allowing Wood to throw nearly 200 pitches in two days.
It’s not like Texas didn’t have other pitching options. A parent allows a kid to come to UT and play baseball partly because of the winning tradition, of the school, and Augie Garrido. However, winning at all costs, and allowing any UT pitcher to stay in for 170 pitches, no matter the stakes, is unacceptable.
UT fans have been quick in the past to jump on Bob Stoops for playing injured zero-u players. Hopefully, Augie will come under the microscope for allowing a pitcher to throw 170 pitches, and risk serious injury. That’s just not the right thing to do.
horn in exile said:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:46 am
Dressendorfer
Respectful Dissent said:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
What’s true in the aggregate is not always true in the specific. As a general rule, that is too many pitches. For Wood, it might not be. It is done – why not wait until something negative comes from it before condemning Augie? Maybe Wood is an ultra-competitive guy who doesn’t know when it’s smart to quit, but maybe he’s a guy who Augie trusts to have an objective opinion of his situation.
If it were my kid, I’d be concerned, but first I’d listen to my kid. If he insisted on staying in, and he felt fine afterward, I wouldn’t scream too loudly (though I’d watch things closely).
As a pitcher, I knew better than the coach when I was done.
Robert Holliday said:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:15 pm
One of the things that always pissed me off when pitching is when some coach or trainer tried to tell me what my body was doing. It is my body, I think that I can make decisions for myself.
And for all of you yellow cowards out there balking at Wood’s performance last night, you are probably the reasons that there aren’t as many legends made anymore. Every time somebody does something great, instead of being amazed, all you can do is gripe.
And I think for those of us who have followed the team all year, we know that the offense has been a liability—all year. But if you look at NCAA programs, Texas is not only the winningest program (by winning percentage), but they are also the most consistent. And they do it with great pitching, great defense, and less than amazing offensive numbers. And not to mention Garrido has more wins than any other NCAA coach—ever.
Of course, Texas and Garrido’s success may be your problems. That is probably the issue. The most successful Division 1 coach and program and you are dogging it. You are not Texas fans, so you will find anything you can on us.
Whatever your motives are, when yall win as many games as Garrido, or as many national championships, then you can spout your expertise on the game. Until then, your opinions as useless as spitting into the wind.
Huckleberry said:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Damn, you got me. I’m not a Texas fan.
Busted.
Robert Holliday said:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Ya Huckleberry. And, if you are honest, I will bet you haven’t ever pitched on the collegiate level.
Huckleberry said:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
That’s correct. So? (And why would I be dishonest about it?)
BEHorn said:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I know nothing about baseball, but I do want to know why a tennis player needs a nickname that’s virtually the same as his actual name – “Rafa” vs “Rafael”? That’s like “Sergi” vs “Sergio” in golf, or “LeBro” vs “LeBron” in hoops. Tennis weird.
Now, back to pitch counts …
BatesHorn said:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Robert
1. Bill James has done nothing at any level of baseball. Yet he’s essentially a living god among modern GM’s. Theo Epstein hasn’t either, and he’s got two world series rings.
2. Billy Beane, was assigned AHEAD of Darryl Strawberry coming out of the Rookie Draft by the Mets. Pretty much everybody’s all american. The guy would laugh in the face of your comments. There is not a pitcher alive that wants to come out of a game, witness Pedro Martinez in 2003 ALCS. It’s not the manager who let’s a guy stay in, it’s the one that says: We need you tomorrow, hit the showers, that shows true depth of character and balls.
3. Austin Wood’s effort is truly an amazing event, something that will live on for many, many years. The question is existential, but real: If he’s selling houses in Westlake in five years cause his rotator cuff is non existent, was it worth it? Is glory now, in the moment, worth whatever you’ve sacrificed in the future?
Groundhog Day said:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
CTJ,
I detect a hint of sarcasm in your post. What Wood did yesterday was nothing short of legendary and if you followed the sport of tennis at all you would realize what happened at the French was also legendary. Both efforts were superhuman so in that way I think they are related. I guess you can mock me for posting tennis info on a longhorn site but I was swept up in the moment. I will not make that mistake again….apologies all around.
Facebook User said:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Groundhog – Thanks for the tennis news. It made me go set the TiVo. Great match. 31-1.
txhawk said:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
@BEHorn
you mean like Ben / Benjamin? or Rich / Richard? or Will / William?
yeah, wow what was Rafa thinking
France said:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:52 am
We are le pissed. General Garrido should be court martialed and shot. Monsieur Wood should be vilified for setting a bad example for our people.
greg swindell said:
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
this is the real greg swindell
whoever has posted on this sight as me better stop..
those comments do not come from me…
Greg Swindell said:
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
No, this is the real Greg Swindell. Only the real Greg Swindell would capitalize his name.