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Tie, Tie My Darling

Posted by HenryJames on May 6th, 2009 under Uncategorized

The Big 12 football coaches are meeting today in Phoenix to discuss conference tiebreaking procedures. Apparently there was some contention last year season over the current rule. Does anyone remember what happened? I really wasn’t paying attention.

The coaches are at some three day seminar sponsored by the Fiesta Bowl giving them all an excuse to channel their inner golf prick. Mike Gundy probably thinks he’s listening to a time share pitch.

Texas coach Mack Brown is not attending so he sent Cleve Bryant to submit his instructions.


“I can handle things, I’m smart, not like everybody says.”

Brown advocates using the SEC’s tiebreaker. If three teams are tied, the lowest ranked team is eliminated if the top two teams are ranked within five spots of each other. The head to head winner is then the champion.

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  1. TXinDC said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 5:51 am

    Any speculation on why Mack isn’t going?

  2. Kneel and Bob said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 5:53 am

    He thinks that Stoops will kick him in the nadleys

  3. Nordberg said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 5:59 am

    Sally’s having surgery.

  4. Vasherized said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:44 am

    She’s having a second surgery just so Mack could get out of the meeting.

    Those conferences must be pretty awkward considering the coaches in the Big 12 pretty much hate eachother.

  5. NateHeupel said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:56 am

    While I have respect for Mack Brown staying with his wife, and I agree it’s the right thing for him to do, UT needs something more than Cleve Bryant arguing their case. For the love of all that is decent, you have a very legitimate case for being screwed out of a shot at the national title. And Cleve effing Bryant is your advocate to change the system? That’s like sending Barney Fife to stop a race riot in Watts.

    You need an asshole. I mean an nth level asshole who’s respected and talented. You need the Robert Shapiro of the college football world. You need Will Muschamp.

    Here’s Muschamp’s Tiebreaker:

    1) If 2 or more teams are tied for first, and Texas is one of the teams, then Texas wins.
    2) If 2 or more teams are tied for first, and Texas is not one of the teams, then Texas wins.
    3) Any other scenario…Suck on my boomstick. Texas wins.

  6. HenryJames said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Mack Brown likes Cleve Bryant because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.

  7. Just add gas said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    Mack’s only instruction to Cleve is to arrive 15 minutes early and ensure Mr Leach is seated next to Mr Sherman.

  8. Facebook User said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Gas – outstanding.

  9. jr.ewing.78 said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:52 am

    I am strangely not as upset about this as I was before the bowls. We missed out on the MNC, but a small bit of karma was restored via the Fiesta Bowl and Big Game Bob’s usual faceplant.

    Nonetheless, it was a sorry situation that needs to be rectified, preferably through someone’s crimson rectum come October.

  10. Longhorn in Canada said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Great line, gas. I can’t believe DeLoss missed this great fund raising opportunity. Somebody would have paid big bucks just to take Mack’s place in that room to watch Leach and Sherman “interact”.

  11. ponderos said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 9:04 am

    So I guess this means Mack will be able to whine with impunity again this year while saying, again, he didn’t know the rules.

  12. Vasherized said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    Visor boy would have pulled the same act had the chips not fallen your way last year, Ponderos.

    Besides, Mack won’t need to whine this year.

    We play Tech at home and we’ll beat OU again.

    Yes it’s really that simple.

  13. Nordberg said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    I can’t even imagine what Stoops would have done had the situation been reversed. Frankly considering the depth of the fuck job we received, I think Mack could have been even more vocal.

    Oh, and you’re a douchebag ponderos. Didn’t want to forget to remind you of that.

  14. Spring Branch Horn said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Here is the outcome regardless of the situation

    1) OU sucks
    2) OU loses BCS Bowl game

  15. Te*an said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    ponderos, wander back over to Tilting Taint and resume your role as leader of the four sooners who have internet access.
    Oh, and I don’t want to forget that Nordberg didn’t want to forget to remind you that you’re a douchebag. Have a nice day*

  16. TaylorTRoom said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Know what reform I’d like to see? I’d like to see the coaches ballots before the B12CG revealed, if only for the B12 coaches. I have a feeling that Leach, Briles and Mangino (does he have a vote?) were ready to vote Texas down as low as needed. A little sunshine would be good.

    The main BCS reform needed is to drop Billingsley, and force changes to the computer raters that don’t know what to do with the D-1AA teams. OU got a huge break in that two of the polls didn’t factor the worst team in D-1AA into OU’s rating, making their schedule seem stronger than it was.

    Billingsley should be dropped because it’s overemphasis on what a team does in November is nonsensical. I suspect that if Texas had beaten Tech, Billingsley would still have OU higher because OU played a tougher November schedule than Texas.

  17. ponderos said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Mangino doesn’t vote because it overlaps with third breakfast time.

  18. Steve Nebraska said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Mangino doesn’t even watch the games, because it gets in the way of Fourthmeal.

  19. Emmett Fitzhume said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Whether Mack is there or not, change seems unlikely given that, from the standpoint of the Big 12, revising the rule is tantamount to saying that they sent the wrong team to the MNC last year. True or not, seems like too much of a loss of face for the conference. Oh yeah, and half the Big 12 coaches are aligned with Stoops.

  20. 98 said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    In other news justin chaisson is all set to enroll in 0U.

  21. Bob in Houston said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    That headline is good enough to have been written by srr50…

  22. ftf said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11715819

  23. OU can suck my cock said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    I really have nothing to say, so I’ll just leave it at that…

  24. ponderos said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Beebe said the coaches decided to stick with the BCS standings as a tiebreaker because of the national title implications. Under the rejected tiebreaker, it’s possible that a fifth-ranked team could earn the nod because of a victory over a team ranked No. 1 or 2 — and that might cost the Big 12 a shot at the national title.

    Alright, any questions before we kickoff? Speak up now.

  25. dick said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “it’s possible that a fifth-ranked team could earn the nod because of a victory over a team ranked No. 1 or 2 — and that might cost the Big 12 a shot at the national title.”

    The odds of this happening are way less than what happened last year. Change the rule to say the teams have to be within 2 spots of each other or something. Just don’t send the worse team to the Big 12 CG.

  26. Trips Right said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    I propose BCS winning percentage be implemented as a tie breaker. I’m willing to provide ou with 50 percentage points to make it fair.

  27. NateHeupel said:

    May 6th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Taylor, why do you think Stoops dropped out of the coaches’ poll? Mack has talked about following suit. They both know the system as it stands is crap.

    Steve Nebraska, I highly doubt that Mangino limits himself to four meals. Unless by fourthmeal, you mean his 4th lunch that happens between 230-3pm daily.

    Vasher, I’m confident UT will beat Tech. I’m also confidently picking OSU over Texas in Stillwater. Until I see the OU OL in Miami, I’m withholding judgment on the RRR game. We could easily see another clusterf*ck with OU beating OSU, OSU beating UT, and UT beating OU.

  28. BoomerFreakinSooner said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 5:55 am

    Everybody got the rules now? Or are ya’ll going to save the ignorance til November whines are due?

  29. 45-35 / 24-14 / 48-28 / 43-42 / 55-19 / 21-14 / said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 6:09 am

    HAI!!!!!

  30. TaylorTRoom said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am

    “Beebe said the coaches decided to stick with the BCS standings as a tiebreaker because of the national title implications. Under the rejected tiebreaker, it’s possible that a fifth-ranked team could earn the nod because of a victory over a team ranked No. 1 or 2 — and that might cost the Big 12 a shot at the national title.”

    Think about how nonsensical this is. They aren’t going to change the system to avoid a problem that actually happened, so they can avoid a problem that has never happened. Let’s think a little more- if a tie-loser were #5, and sent to the B12 CG, would it really jump over a #1 or #2 BCS team? With what we know of the BCS?

    I’m a bigger proponent of fixing the gross errors in the BCS system (I’m looking at you, Billingsley), but this type of stupid thinking is ridiculous.

  31. Ricky said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 7:42 am

    “Beebe said the coaches decided to stick with the BCS standings as a tiebreaker because of the national title implications. Under the rejected tiebreaker, it’s possible that a fifth-ranked team could earn the nod because of a victory over a team ranked No. 1 or 2 — and that might cost the Big 12 a shot at the national title.”

    If this were so GD important they should have immediately voted to get rid of the Big 12 championship game. That’s more likely to kill off a title contender than the current three-way divisional tiebreaker rule (which means three teams in one division have at least one conference loss and will then have to play another conference game before even having a chance to be considered for the MNC). Beebe’s quote was CYA-complete-and-utter-bullshit statement of the year.

  32. ponderos said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 8:00 am

    What he’s saying is that the highest-ranked team has the best shot at playing in the national championship game, and he’s right.

    I agree about the championship game, though. If the Pac 10 and Big 10 are going to get into NC games by not having to go through a conference championship game, then let’s get rid of our’s, too. Otherwise, force them to have one. Everybody should be playing by the same rules, flawed as they are.

  33. Spring Branch Horn said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Well – OU showed once again that they should not be in a BCS Bowl game. How about winning two regular bowls before being allowed to play in a BCS Bowl?

  34. Flamingmonkeyass said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Of course ou fans are for the rule staying the same. They’re banking on the national perception that they’re a better team even when they clearly aren’t. For example see last year.

  35. BoomerFreakinSooner said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    According to the official OU and Texas Athltics Departments, both teams have won 24 bowl games. Nice of Texas to finally catch up this year. Of course, it’s always easier to win a bowl game when your playing lesser competition.

  36. BoomerFreakinSooner said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Not to mention…, oh ok, I will, Texas has lost 21 bowl games. Oklahoma has lost seven fewer, 15.

  37. BoomerFreakinSooner said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    er, 6…

  38. Trips Right said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    You meant seven probations I bet. Or you just can’t add and subtract. Pick one.

  39. Simple Math said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Too late, you stupid fuck, BoomerFuckingSooner.

  40. Facebook User said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    He did say fewer and not less, so that’s cool.

    Ponderos – Agree. The lack of a CG in two big conferences seems unfair but the Big XII is after the money (SHOCKING!) so it isn’t going anywhere.

  41. It's the BCS Stupid said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    The problem here is not the Conference tie-breakers, nobody give a shit about winning the conference except that you generally can’t get the the MNC game without it. The problem is the BCS

    You’re just as likely to get fucked by one set of stupid rules as you are by another set of stupid rules.

    Eventually OU will get screwed too. Just like we came out ahead of Cal a few years back.

  42. hot stove steve said:

    May 8th, 2009 at 7:07 am

    Wait wait, was it 7 or 6 gang rapes by the OU football team?

  43. ponderos said:

    May 8th, 2009 at 7:20 am

    nobody give a shit about winning the conference

    allsome.

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