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1. Gracie Supanoosinphone said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

   There’s no doubt in my mind that a VY return would have meant another undefeated regular season. Whether the team could have handled Florida in the title game is another question.

2. Gracie Supanoosinphone said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

   Just like a Jamaal Charles and Jermichael Finley return last year would have turned the teams two biggest holes into national strengths. The season could only have turned out better, and with only 1 loss, that means just one thing.

   Think about it.

3. no shit said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

   thanks

4. maninblack said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

   Maybe he’s been talking to the Madison O-Line coach again.

5. Kriess said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

   you NEVER go full retard.

6. No Fucking Shit said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

   I tend to agree with what No Shit said.

7. Black Scholes said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

   Florida? Meh.

8. NateHeupel said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

   Overheard on the Sooner internets:

   Embattled Gorman football player enters plea deal

   Regarding Justin Chaisson’s possible plea deal:

   “Man, not sure this is a good deal if [Justin Chaisson] ends up at OU. No matter the quality of the player, it’s just not a positive thing to keep that guy around.”

   Seconded. He might deserve a second chance, but I don’t want it to be at OU.

9. CloseToJumping said:

   April 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

   There is very little doubt that Chaisson winds up at OU and becomes a stud. If beating someone into a coma doesn’t get you tossed from the team, why would doing something ahead of your arrival to campus be a problem?

   As to Geoff Ketchum’s absurd “we’ll never know” bullshit on if VY returned – then why the fuck did you write it all, lumpy? The guy’s a complete coelenterate. I find his musings mindnumbing at best, a threat to our national sovereignty at worst. The idea that VY coming back for his senior year wouldn’t have pretty much made the season a gimme is sad and hilarious when the source is considered.

10. can't help myself said:

    April 29th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    If it’s so absurd…why do you continue to read it?

    Hmmmmmm

11. andy-licous said:

    April 29th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Would Florida have been the opponent?

    I think we end up against a one loss OSU team fresh off their defeat of the previously undefeated and would-have-been 2nd ranked Michigan team for a rematch of week 2.

    Hell, even if we lost to OSU I would say we end up jumping florida to play OSU

12. Parlin Hall said:

    April 29th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    I’ve been reading BC long enough that I no longer need to look up “coelenterate.”

    Can I deduct my subscription as a work-related educational expense?

13. TaylorTRoom said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 2:59 am

    Reasons why OU enrolls Chaisson:
    1. His HS is a feeder program for OU.
    2. Talented player.
    3. Stoops really doesn’t care if he’s a thug- well, to be more accurate, he cares, but less than he cares about his ability and production.

    Rationalizations for OU enrolling Chaisson:
    1. It was only a misdemeanor.
    2. He would benefit from the structure the program provides (tip of the hat to Tom Osborne)
    3. There is more to the story than released in the media.
    4. Hey, let me tell you, the whorns would do the same thing.

14. littlebighorn said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 4:39 am

    The article in question was written by Chip Brown.

15. maninblack said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am

    To be fair it wasn’t Ketch that produced the article or the completely retarded quote above.

16. NateHeupel said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 6:38 am

    Rationalizations for OU enrolling Chaisson:
    1. It was only a misdemeanor.
    2. He would benefit from the structure the program provides (tip of the hat to Tom Osborne)
    3. There is more to the story than released in the media.
    4. Hey, let me tell you, the whorns would do the same thing.

    Taylor:

    (sigh)….conceded.

    CloseToJumping:

    I know this may be going somewhere I shouldn’t go, but screw it. Josh Jarboe had a gun in his car, and OU didn’t boot him. Ok, I guess I get it. DeKalb County has a massive murder rate, and young, lower-class black males tend to be the first to get killed.

    Justin Chaisson kidnaps his girlfriend, puts a screwdriver to her neck, and basically does things that, if a guy did them to my daughter, would earn him a cranium full of 9mm hollow point. Ok, I guess Las Vegas has a high…umm…domestic violence rate?

    It should be noted, however, neither Stoops nor OU has commented or made a decision, so this is all speculative. I think what concerns a comfortingly large number of OU fans is the silence on the issue.

17. Josh Jarboe said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 6:57 am

    3. Stoops really doesn’t care if he’s a thug- well, to be more accurate, he cares, but less than he cares about his ability and production.

    I can haz my scholarship back then?

18. TaylorTRoom said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 7:00 am

    Nate, it’s very simple. If he had enrolled already, and did this between semesters, no coach would boot him before his court situation was settled (plea, conviction, or release). To do so would prejudice his case in a very public way, and that’s just not appropriate (in such cases, Mack will “indefinitely suspend” a player, meaning they have no contact with the program but aren’t convicted in the court of public opinion). He hasn’t enrolled yet, though, and Stoops has been free to disassociate with him for weeks. That he hasn’t done so is … troubling.

19. TaylorTRoom said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 7:35 am

    No, Josh, you were allowed to enroll after you pled your felonies down to misdemeanors. You were expelled for getting into more trouble after a STERN WARNING.

20. Michael Moore said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 8:08 am

    “Justin Chaisson kidnaps his girlfriend, puts a screwdriver to her neck”

    It was the screwdriver’s fault..

21. NateHeupel said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Taylor, did you ever hear what happened to Jarboe after OU gave him das boot?

    He transferred to Troy University, and made it all the way to January, until…

    LINK

    “Josh Jarboe was arrested Sunday by Troy University police and charged with misdemeanor harassment. According to an arrest report obtained by the Dothan Eagle, Jarboe, 19, of Atlanta, was arrested at Stewart Hall, a dining facility. No description of the harassment was on the arrest report.”

    The description given by a Troy student on one of their message boards a full two hours before the story broke was that Jarboe had a girl by the throat and was screaming at her.

22. whoopspat said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    OU GAVE JARBOE A BOAT?

23. Black Scholes said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Ketch was the first to discover Chaisson in 1993 at a Greater Western States Pre-K 7-on-7.

    The kid was really bringing it to the other toddlers; a little bit of a wobbler, but good straightline speed and could go 4-5 steps before he fell down. He was a little undersized for his age though, and even then rumors were that he had a problem with the juice. Some kind of mango/orange crap I think. Also something of a Momma’s boy, since she was always around.

    Ketch thought Chaisson would stay close to home since he wasn’t allowed to leave the yard without the nanny, so this was something of a recruiting coup for OU.

    You can look it up.

24. Lawerence Phillips said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    This thread is ALLSOME!!!!

25. RansomStoddard said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Stoops recruited and then signed Jarboe the Thug despite the fact that if you spent 1 minute around him you would figure out he was a gangster and if you looked at his myspace stuff, you would see that he bragged about it. Stoops, like Switzer, DOESN’T CARE ABOUT THAT STUFF. They just hope to God he catches 50 passes before he kills someone and they are forced to make the “personally difficult” decision to kick him off the team.

26. James Henry said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am

    Sounds like Jarboe was just minding his business.

27. NateHeupel said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Ransom, it’s good to know you have such extensive contacts in Georgia. It’s also good to know you look at the myspace pages of OU football players. It’s comforting to know that a diehard UT fan, and an abrasive jackass, is intimately familiar with the players of an opposing team.

    Out of sheer curiosity, when did your ex-wife file the restraining order on you?

28. Nordberg said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Damn, talk about shooting the messenger.

29. kevwun said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Bitches must be kicked, not stabbed.

30. OU fan said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Bring Chaisson the fuck on! 1st round of screwdrivers at the bar on me!

31. Vasherized said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Nate, Justin, & Kevin,

32. hot wire said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    “I think what concerns a comfortingly large number of OU fans is the silence on the issue.”

    Nate, why would it be comforting for a large amount of OU fans to know that Chiasson, given his confirmed nasty behavior, may still have a good chance to end up on your campus and become accepted as a public representative of the true character of your state university.

    It’s been said: “In the NFL, winning cures all, including bruised egos, broken families, unusual tasting coffee, and whiney bitches.”

    You are not telling me that the same statement could be just as easily applied to OU football and your university? I find it so hard to believe. I mean, even after all the dirty laundry has become public (I think we all know what OU would have done if this incident never became public and was covered up), would OU still conceivably risk its untarnished image as an uncompromising institution of higher learning, just for the sake of getting another live body on its O-line? Surely, that could not be the case. Tell me it isn’t so, Nate. Spare me from the devastating disillusionment of this realization.

    Oh, and speaking of dirty laundry: Nate, on a typical day, more stains wind up on the bottom of your undies than ends up on Bradford’s uni. From what I could tell, Bradford seems to be playing some version of flag football whenever he gets on the field, cause he sure as hell never seems to get tackled. Heck, he never even seems to get touched for that matter.

    Oh, and I did I ever mention that your hero, anorexic QB also throws like a girl. Yes, that’s right, he throws the football like a sissy.

33. LonghornScott said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    hot wire thinks he calling in to the Jim Rome show.

34. intellectual type said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    I lol’ed at LonghornScott.

35. Spring Branch Horn said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    did someone mention me

36. Vince Young's Throwing Motion said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Oh, and I did I ever mention that your hero, anorexic QB also throws like a girl. Yes, that’s right, he throws the football like a sissy.

    What he said!

37. Closeted Horn said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Vasherized-you should’ve featured the latest video by “All American Rejects”-fits the mood better.

38. some of this..some of that said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Thriller is better.

39. hot wire said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    “Vince Young’s Throwing Motion”

    That you, Nate, have you gone incognito in a pathetic and futile effort to avoid a direct confrontation with the wrath and the piercing insights of the man of the smoking wire?

    I would not call Vince’s throwing motion girlish. Unlike Bradford, Vince throws the way he throws cause he’s all Man, too much of a Man in fact. To put it in a way even an okie can understand: Vince’s arm is so strong he has to take some muster off his throws at the wrist or he is liable to impale, kill, or serious maim someone with the incredible, testesterone filled, and Over Manly velocity of his throws.

    If Vince wanted to, he could probably throw the ball from one end of the field to the other. Now that is a Man’s man of an arm. I think it’s safe to bet that no one will ever say the same for Bradford. Even with the perfect mechanics of his girlish throws, his rubber (talking condom quality here) band arm probably never made it pass the fifty yard line. Nate(incognito), I am looking forward to watching Bradford’s stock drop next season, and I can’t wait for McShay to quit humping and pimping your boy, which will end up breaking the boy toy’s heart, cause McShay so casually and without emotion moved on to molest and pimp the next up and coming latest and greatest.

    Oh, and since you, Nate(incognito) did not bother to deny the part about the stains, I guess what was said about your undies happens to be true. So take my advice, quit trying to defend your anorexic, girlish throwing, chicken legged QB, and do the whole state of Oklahoma a favor and just go and wash your dirty, stinking undies.

40. Facebook User said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    That’s not Nate. And he’s more welcome here than you are. Muster? Sweet creeping Jesus.

41. NateHeupel said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    hot wire, every time you throw something up here, I think, “Wow, he’s really bottomed out.” Then you go and dig deeper.

    With Ransom, Vasher, Taylor, and the rest, it’s just good-old fashioned verbal sparring. A fun time for all and I’d buy a round for any of them. Ransom’s would probably be laced, but at least he’d suffer with his favorite drink. He could enjoy his Zima in peace.

    However, you are an inimitable genetic failure. You are Danny DeVito from Twins, except without the charm, character, or humor. Basically, you’re Jon Lovitz.

42. roveram said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    wassup folks?

43. Vasherized said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    With Ransom, Vasher, Taylor, and the rest, it’s just good-old fashioned verbal sparring. A fun time for all and I’d buy a round for any of them.

    I’m sorry sir that card was declined. Would you like to try another one?

44. Black Scholes said:

    April 30th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    That’s what she said.

45. NateHeupel said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 5:31 am

    No, Vasher, I’m just leaving you with the tab.

46. Art Vandelay said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 6:16 am

    On a related note….. I heard Mack speak yesterday at a luncheon. I was impressed, and also surprised at how funny he was.

    I’d send my son to play for Mack without hesitation. We should thank our lucky charms every day that he is our coach.

47. the Bobs said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 9:23 am

    re: “Basically, you’re Jon Lovitz.”

    utterly incorrect, and I can prove it. Lovitz is funny…

48. the Bobs said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 9:25 am

    but maybe he’s basically (hmmm, think of someone remotely as painful as hotwire… aha, got it!)Carrottop…

49. Kneel and Bob said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 10:57 am

    funny

50. hot wire said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    “That’s not Nate. And he’s more welcome here than you are. Muster? Sweet creeping Jesus.”

    My, my, it seems the p.c. police are out in force on this site. Muster? or mustard? Who the hell cares? It was a mere slip of the tongue. That the best you can come up with. Hey, at least I don’t publicly admit to being a foolish, neck deep idol worshipper. Although that slip maybe more common and socially acceptable in today’s world, that certainly doesn’t condone it. I’d say your slip is a hell of alot worse and I’d say you ain’t got much room to be talking.

    And who ever heard of a Horn sticking up for a Sooner and insisting that posters limit themselves to just ghey ass, good nature fun with a Sooner, one who comes on this board to always harp and gloat about how great and mighty his Sooners are? I thought they were our blood, to the death, dirty dog rivals. Also, how do you know that was not Nate? I say it was and, as usual, I’m probably right on this one.

    “…it’s just good-old fashioned verbal sparring”

    That how you interpret all your bloating and gloating about your Sooners, Nate? Listen, I’ll take that public whining as a plea for mercy on your part. Basically, that you are admitting defeat and throwing up the white flag, and, in consideration, I will refrain from picking on you and your beloved Sooners for at least the near future.

    Geez man, instead of begging for mercy, you could have just responded, defended yourself, and put me back in my place, but I guess asking anything above begging is asking too much from a man like you.

51. hot wire said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Also, by the way, I think I am funny as hell on wheels. Didn’t this board just get over agreeing that everything is too subjective to judge? And if so, then what ground do any of you have to judge my sense and style of humor.

    By the way, Nate, I really wasn’t joking about most of stuff about Bradford or OU or you, but I still thought it was funny as hell, as an incidental matter.

52. Facebook User said:

    May 1st, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    You’ve broken all the rules of Fight Club.

53. hot wire said:

    May 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    By the way, Nate, just between you and me and in truth, I really was just joking around. I know, I know, as hard as it maybe to believe, I am not that much of an asshole. I meant to alert you of this sooner rather than later, but I was just having too much fun (maybe only me, but still fun) following you around and ragging you on every one of your posts.

    I guess due to the nature of my major, fucked up upbringing, my sense of humor, I suppose, has become a bit extreme, perverse, and deranged. Sorry, but all this “good natured” fun and all the “so serious” discussions in the off season just bores my ass to death. If there ain’t a bit of cruelty and irony in the exchange, it seems I find it impossible to enjoy myself.

    As I said above, I will leave you alone from now on and p.s., on a honest level, I think you are a good guy. I just can’t help myself from being an asshole most of the time. Sorry about that.

    But, for the sake of the integrity of football, I do want to confirm that I still believe that Bradford is vastly overrated. To anyone who can just close their ears to all the overblown hype, and just looks with their own naked eyes, this is just so obvious, but I will even lay off that until the beginning of the season. In my humble and possibly solo opinion, Bradford is a servicible QB, but would not get anywhere near the hype he gets today if it was not for the NFL’s and the football industry’s – evidently, from pee wee to the pro’s – attempt to maintain the hegemony of white QB’s and its affirmative action program for whitey QB’s.

    To put it simply, if the folks in the stands ever changed to become mainly black folks, I think it would be safe to say that the days of the white, unathletic, slow poke QB would go the way of the dinosaur. In essence, the white QB stereotype is only maintained by popular demand – that’s about it when it comes right down to it.

    Anyone else notice how most of the star Pro wrestlers are white or almost nearly white, as in the Rock. No true really black pro wrestler ever has gone on to become a truly big star in the ring. Of course, if the sport was actually real, then blacks would likely come to dominate the sport, as they have done with boxing.

    The above suggests that this thing called “popular demand” can and has influenced even the so called real sports to the extent those sports could get away with it, under some legitimate appearing pretense. In the real sports though, unlike wrestling, they are limited in that respect. But the motive (or the smoking gun) is there just like it is in Pro Wrestling and it has been there since the very beginning of the league. Just ask Warren Moon about that. In the days before all this media and when the NFL could get away with it, they effectively blackballed Moon, solely cause he was black. He spent most of the years of his prime playing in the CFL, and his talent level in college was tons better than Bradford’s.

54. NorthDallasSooner said:

    May 3rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    hot wire…..where are you coming from? NFL prospects for Bradford? I hope Sam gets rich and wins 5 rings….But not as much as I hope he wins 1 in Norman.

    Before you call me a user, how many good strong honest Orangebloods are really concerned that VY’s NFL career is WAY off the tracks? Doesn’t make you users or bad folks either, it just demonstrates that the football you really care about is played in Austin and five to six other college towns every, none of which are Nashville.

    Yes, it is true that the prospects of an NFL career are a powerful aphrodisiac in recruiting, and that is Mack’s and Bob’s job. But if you and I are honest, it doesn’t matter nearly as much to us. We want great performances in my beloved Cotton Bowl (E. Dallas boy, actually), Lincoln, Aggie-land (CS and Stillh2O) and beyond, but not necessarily in the Meadowlands or Landover.

    The NFL sure doesn’t seem to like “spread” QBs, though that’s not necessarily what OU runs. He does take 15-20 snaps from center a game, which differentiates from TTU, but, yeah, it’s fair to question that he doesn’t make his own calls at the line.

    BTW, SI has UT 2 and OU 3 coming out of Spring. No question you’ll be unbeaten until Oct. 17, a little iff-ier for us, but reasonably expected. Game on!

55. NateHeupel said:

    May 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    hot wire,

    You have been diagnosed with dissociative personality disorder. Please seek treatment.

    The problem with your thesis is that the NFL demands a much more cerebral type of football at QB, and it is much less reliant on sheer physical athletic ability. Exhibit A: Tom Brady. A lot of super-athletic QBs (let’s not kid ourselves here, they are usually NOT white kids) never have to learn the mental part of the game even in college. They’re so physically superior that they can just “out-athlete” their opponents until they hit the league. Exhibit B: Vince Young. At what point did Vince EVER have to read a defense at UT? The answer is never. He was so fucking incredible as an athlete that he was never forced to really learn the mental side of being a QB. THAT is the problem. The NFL is like a college all-star game. Except the performance enhancers are WAY more advanced.

    The problem isn’t the white people in the stands or the coach’s box; it’s the black guys on the opposing defenses.

    The irony is that Sam Bradford probably NEEDS to stay for another year to have any chance of long-term success in the NFL. What Bradford is going to face this year is basically going to be a precursor for his first 3 or 4 years in the NFL. Incoherent OL, inexperienced WRs, limited time to throw, no superstar to bail him out. Sounds about like the first 5-10 teams in the draft, no? If he can pull out a good season with that, then he can make it in the NFL.

56. Geoff Ketchum said:

    May 4th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    What kind of a fucking tool calls someone a “coelenterate”?

57. BoomerFreakin'Sooner said:

    May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 am

    hot wire – your daddy was only 1-2 against the Sooners. Live with that.

58. hot wire said:

    May 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    “The problem with your thesis is that the NFL demands a much more cerebral type of football at QB, and it is much less reliant on sheer physical athletic ability”

    I suppose that is a p.c. way of saying that black QB’s and black folks in general are too dim-witted to play QB in the NFL. Oh, it could be said that there maybe some plausibility to this line of thought, and the NFL, you can bet, knows of this non-openly-professerable stereotype and is planning to ride it for it’s worth.

    My point would be, exactly, how cerebral could football be on any level? I mean, I doubt if its complexities ever approaches that of rocket science. Lord knows all the sports promo’s attempt to get people to believe that sports is even more complicated than achieving world peace, but that just part of the game of hype promotion, just like they attempted to get Kentucky folks into believing that Calipari is some wunderkind, genius coach, to justify his ridiculous salary – in response, I say, yea right and whatever. That’s all a bunch of bullshit. It’s their job to hype up their game and its players and promote their agenda, whatever it happens to be.

    You know, your famous coach said it best when he put his foot in his mouth and said that football is more about the jimmies and the joes and than the x’s and the o’s, and it seems that way, except for the QB position. Swizter was not really supposed to say things like that. It’s not good for the sport and that would be the reason why they had to get rid of him. Switzer was not p.c. enough and just to damn honest, both in his outward persona and his words, for the modern media age of football. None of the really big name coaches today are any different from Switzer. They just know how to appear as clean as a choir boy and professional as a CEO for public consumption in front of the cameras, but behind the scenes, you can bet, they are as rotten and as dirty as Swizter ever was. I’m sure Switzer gets a chuckle about this everytime he thinks about it, given his personality.

    I don’t really want to get into this topic too far so I’ll just be as brief as possible and just let it rest. If the football industry was really concerned with black mobile QB’s being too slow to learn the complicated game in the NFL, then why is no one attempting to coach them up at a younger age, so they can get a head start. Surely, a black person can be taught the art of QB’ing, if he is started at an early enough age. A group of mobile QB’s who can read the defenses like a Manning would change the way the game is played forever and would be a huge advantage to any team. And it seems the NFL or someone is pretty much already doing this for white QB prospects, like the Barkely’s, Sanchez’s, Stafford’s, and the Daniel’s of the world. Ever wonder why no one is concerned with coaching up prospects like the Russell Shepard’s of the world at a young age? I certainly do and I think it is telling. Now there are reasons one can come up with for why they are not, but if one thinks about them further, I think they will be exposed as being fairly weak.

    To bring the example even closer to home, look no further than Robert Griffin at Baylor. Ever wonder how he wound up at Baylor? It was cause Briles was the only coach in the B12 who would offer the kid as a QB and the kid right out of the box, as a true fucking freshman, is one of the best QB’s in the nation. If Griffin was surrounded by talent like Texas has, I think he could be like a Tim Tebow, a Tim Tebow with faster wheels and a better arm. The kid as a true fish single handedly resurrected the Baylor program – that’s saying a whole hell of alot about his talent.

    Now, ever wonder how the Texas coaches passed up and missed on his talent? I mean, he only played right up the road at Copperas Cove. The kid has enough talent to lead Texas to another national title and to win a Heisman. Personally, I find it hard to believe that Mack could have missed on the kid. What makes it even more telling is that all the other B12 coaches supposedly missed on this kid as well and tried to get him to switch over to a WR. Now you getting my drift.

    How many other kids are there like Griffin who are not as strong and insistent as him and who allow themselves to be cowed into another position? I say it’s a countless number – would be easy to do considering most of these kids come from a low income background and probably don’t have a male adult figure in their lives to defend and protect them. The Griffin example suggests that the football industry has no real interest in promoting black Qb’s on any level and that it places subtle glass ceilings and obstacles in the way of these kids. In the Griffin example, you could say that the slip is showing of the agenda the football industry likes to keep unexposed in the background.

    I ask you again how could so many coaches miss on Griffin? The kid right out of the box as a true fish has the strongest arm in the B12, a true fucking NFL caliber, canon of an arm, which is fucking god damn rare on any level. His arm as a true fish is quite a bit stronger than either Bradford’s or Colt’s. Why did the kid get so little hype and why was no one concerned with training this kid up as QB at a young age?

    Griffin will probably make into the NFL – his talent can’t be denied anymore – but note that football did try to get him to change his position, and I am sure this one little exposed example of this kind of subtle arm twisting goes on to far greater degree than anyone is ever going to want to admit in public.

    by the way, I self-ban myself from this site, until the season starts, and so if you get no further replies, that would be why.

59. Vasherized said:

    May 5th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    by the way, I self-ban myself from this site, until the season starts, and so if you get no further replies, that would be why.

    Sometimes it pays to read the ending first.

60. Harry Dunne said:

    May 5th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    “by the way, I self-ban myself from this site, until the season starts, and so if you get no further replies, that would be why”

    Just when I thought you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this… and totally redeem yourself

61. hot wire said:

    May 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    What was so dumb about my last post? By the way, the whole Tom Brady and the intellectual thing doesn’t hold much water. Think last year and the performance of Cassell strongly suggested that Brady is very much of a system QB. There was not much of a drop off at the QB position with Cassell and if a career backup at USC can do pretty much the same as MVP Brady, then that suggests that Brady’s success is not so much due to his rare and one of kind type of intellect.

    Besides, with highly mobile QB’s, as untrained and unpolished as they maybe, a complicated scheme is not needed to win in the NFL. That notion is just a myth the NFL promotes and wants the fans to believe. If a play as simple as the zone read can work in college so effectively, then why couldn’t it be as effective in the pro’s, or what about a series of plays of a similar simple nature?

    Can’t anyone realize that with better talent at the QB position, one doesn’t need complicated schemes to win in the NFL? Didn’t the Cowboys have the best rushing attack in the NFL with Emmitt and with only four different running plays? They could do so cause they just had better talent. It’s that simple. I would be willing to bet the longevity of my god forsaken life that I could take an OC out from the high school ranks, have him design a fairly simple O to take advantage of the strengths of a mobile QB, and I bet could win the NFL championship every fucking year going, and probably with very good odds of going undefeated in many of those years, assuming the other teams keep playing the same stale O they are playing now and the NFL does not find some way to sabotage our team. It would be that fucking simple, even with black QB’s just the way they are now.

    And as far as injury issues of mobile QB’s are concerned (for that is one of the trumped up reasons the NFL puts up for why it cannot do this), hell, just go and sign up three or four mobile QB’s and just pound the D with them all until they all drop dead from exhaustion. Would be cheap and easy to signed the multiple black QB’s needed to run this, since in the NFL they are considered to be nothing more than a dime a dozen.

    It’s fairly obvious that the staleness and lack of diversity in the O’s in the NFL is by design and it is done to keep the black QB’s, untrained and unpolished as they are, at a competitive disadvantage and the white QB as a viable option.

    What’s so stupid about the above? Now this is stupid: autism is probably due (don’t know much about the subject aside from T.V. and haven’t thought about it much, but then I don’t think it is particularly necessary in this case to understand the basics) to the introduction of the negativity of the third perspective (or the medusa principle) at too early of an age of a child, at a time when the mind is particularly vulnerable due to its lack of separation between it and the body.

    Take the example of a kid who has to been teased too much an too early an age or a child who spends too much time with a computer at too early an age, both shows signs of stunted emotional growth due to the introduction of the negativity of the principle of judgement at too early an age, and I suspect autism works the same way. It appears to be fairly obvious. It’s probably due to what alot of people suspect, over-intensive vaccination – for vaccination probably acts like the principle of judgement on a biological level. Probably a catch-22 here, if one does not vaccinate, society risks the spread of contagious diseases, but given the high increase in the rates of autism, this fact suggests that the balance seems to be weighted a bit too much on the side of over intensive vaccination. Autism maybe caused by another mechanism, but the metaphor to use to understand it would remain the same and it is the “medusa” effect.

    Now this is my last post forever and forever. I give up on this site forever and all the hotshot looneys that post here.

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