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Breaking Down the Big 12 Draft
Posted by Scipio Tex on April 26th, 2009 under Football
Good work from our Missouri friends at Atomic Teeth in breaking down the Big 12 draft.
Were you surprised that Missouri had the most guys drafted in 2009?
How about the fact that it is Nebraska – not Oklahoma – that has the second highest number of guys in the NFL currently?
If you’re even a moderately enterprising sort, you should be able to win a few bar bets with that info.
As for our boys:
Orakpo is now a millionaire in Washington. Playing next to Albert Haynesworth won’t suck.
Miller went to a very good situation in Tampa Bay in the 3rd.
Melton went in the 4th to Chicago and his very best football is still ahead of him.
Chris O goes in the 7th to St Louis.
Quan Cosby will sign as a FA with Cincinnati. He’ll make that roster. Right now he’s pissed off with a chip on his shoulder and that will fuel his play.
What do you reckon?
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Ag_in_TX commented on the blog post Post-Mortem: Texas Tech Red Raiders ago
How did this post make you not seem like an idiot?
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Great write up. I’ll be rooting for you to keep Calipari on the schnide.
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I like my wine in a box…. I like my wine in a box GIIIRL
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texasengr commented on the blog post 2011 Texas Football Recruiting 2 minutes ago
The General,
I think the WR screen you were looking for could be seen at ~1:55. However, this was an effective play, so we really don’t know how he will take the blow from an unblocked defender 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Did Rick Barnes use a plant last night to distract KU players? 3 minutes ago
We commented on the lass during telecast. Thanks for, getting this up, so to speak.
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skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 11 minutes ago
EP, careful those word will get you a rebuke from Peter Pan. Those words should not be heard until March if we are disappointed by this talented team. Lets wait until the season is a complete train wreck then lets file a legal brief that is in lawyeris to explain what a fuck up season
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Mister Mike commented on the blog post Recruiting the Trenches 11 minutes ago
Sailor’s sponsoring it? Holy shit…that likely means goats, togas, and lots of cheap wine.
Welcome to the network!
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 15 minutes ago
Bates, thanks man. That means a lot.
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skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 40 minutes ago
Yeah your right, penders teams were at least fun to watch play. Barnes offense is pretty bad not as bad as Tom’s but its all relative to who is watching the worst offense in Texas history.
“His teams did not play D, did not box out, and were generally unsound in the fundamentals of the game.”
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Our hoops team is the basketball version of Major League.
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Isuro Tanaka (Major League II) = Dogus Balbay
Rube Baker (Major Leauge II) = Jordan HamiltonIf Craig Way starts drinking whiskey during the broadcasts, it’ll complete the analogy.
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Farmer Ted commented on the blog post Recruiting the Trenches 44 minutes ago
Nice job with this – and welcome to the network, on behalf of Better Off Red. See you at the Fantake retreat in Vegas that Sailor Ripley is sponsoring this summer!
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Nice job Hiphop. Very nice to win what is probably the toughest game on the schedule handily, although the Hawks obviously caught UT at a good time.
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slugfest commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 1 hour, 1 minute ago
EP, I get your point, but I don’t think the fact that Texas hasn’t won a tourney came as an underdog doesn’t support it. Teams are favored because they are better. The odds that they win are greater than those who are not favored. It’s not like Texas goes into games with a secret weapon
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I think KU should demand an immediate investigation. Find someone to get to the bottom of this.
I volunteer myself.
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Georgetown?
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RRR commented on the blog post Thoughts on the win in Austin 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
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PB, just talking. I’m not ready to replace him but something has to change. The comment about playing 3 on 5 three quarters into the season is just astoundingly bad.
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Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1mOrMQXYw
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
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Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1mOrMQXYw
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
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Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
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It takes more time…unless you’re a Kentucky fan.
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slugfest commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I don’t think it’s a case of RB not being able to coach, or doing a poor job of coaching. If you read the entirety of Katz’ blog post, he clearly sounds like a coaching searching for answers — answers that come in the form of players contributing, doing what they are coached to do.
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Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post John Pelphrey’s Unconventional Approach 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I agree that an NIT bid would be acceptable this year, but that if the Razorbacks can get to 20 wins they will have a very good chance at the NCAA Tourney.
Our RPI is bad, and we have no signature wins.
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Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post John Pelphrey’s Unconventional Approach 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I agree that an NIT bid would be acceptable this year, but that if the Razorbacks can get to 20 wins they will have a very good chance at the NCAA Tourney.
Our RPI is bad, and we have no signature wins.
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TP welcome to the network.
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TKO said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
“How about the fact that it is Nebraska – not Oklahoma – that has the second highest number of guys in the NFL currently?”
What surprises me more is that OU isn’t even third on that list.
“Quan Cosby will sign as a FA with Cincinnati. He’ll make that roster. Right now he’s pissed off with a chip on his shoulder and that will fuel his play.”
Hell, even I’m pissed off with a chip on my shoulder about how it went down for him, so I imagine Quan will be coming in with some genuine attitude. The rest of the league will find out soon enough what’s up. Bengals got a steal.
The good news is MBTF says Quan received seven other offers immediately after the draft, so at least he had the chance to pick the best fit for him. Probably better for him than being drafted late.
TKO said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:24 am
BON reporting Cedric Dockery has been picked up by New Orleans. Went over to the Times-Picayune sports page and they’re saying the same thing, so it looks like the Dockery family is well represented in the NFL.
Anyone heard anything on Lewis? Palmer? Bobino?
TKO said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:31 am
Quick Correction:
Before this weekend OU was third in Big XII on current number of players in the NFL. They passed the Ags (by one) with the 2009 draft.
Nero said:
April 27th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Was that trophy next to Orakpo taken from the set of the movie Betelgeuse?
Washington will have a very improved d-line in 2009. The Cowboys will have Stephen McGee.
Ag_in_TX said:
April 27th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Hmmm – I really like Cosby as a player, but in Cincinnati, he faces a roster loaded at WR:
Certain on their roster:
Andre Caldwell
Antonio Chatman
Lavernius Coles
Chris Henry
Chad Ochocinco
Jerome Simpson (2nd round pick last year)
So, NFL clubs carry – what, 6 or 7 active, 2 or 1 practice squad WRs? Bengals already have, on their roster, practice squad players from last year:
Maurice Purify (the Nebraska kid)
Mario Urrutia (7th round pick, 2008 draft)
AND they drafted Freddie Brown (Utah) in the 7th round.
So you’ve got, barring injuries, four guys battling it out for perhaps two practice squad spots? Not a sure thing at all. And don’t mention “off the field” problems for Cincy WR’s – up there, they live by the motto “If it ain’t a felony, you ain’t tryin’…”
GigoloJoe said:
April 27th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Presumably Quan took all of that into account when he made his decision. Whoever he signed with, there would be competition.
It would be cool seeing Quan on the field at the same time as Cedric Benson. Hope it happens.
George Patton said:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:40 am
TKO: Now I’m really confused. You corrected yourself to say that before this weekend OU was third in the Big 12 in active NFL players.
But the Atomic Teeth article shows them being tied for 4th before this WE with KState.
Who’s right?
Facebook User said:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:48 am
SausageFest said:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Pudding Pops, Muthafucka!!!
Vasherized said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Quan should be wearing a This is Awkward T-shirt.
That was a brutal segment.
Did any scouts see the Fiesta Bowl where Quan went for 10/155/2 against while lined up most of the day against the 14th pick in the draft?
Mature, decent speed, good hands, tough, played well in big games…but he’s 5′9″.
Of the 10 WRs taken in round 6 and 7, only one was under 6 feet, Manny Johnson. Most guys were 6′1 – 6′4 210+ projects with far less production but more potential upside.
Welcome to the league. May The Quan continue to surprise.
jonestopten said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Did they steal the couch from a dorm lobby?
Ag_in_TX said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:41 am
It’s a good thing Erin Andrews’ ass is only about 10″ wide.
Vasherized said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Before Tebow hit it her ass was at least 12″.
Fact/Gospel.
HenryJames said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:48 am
“Have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.”
Spider said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Playing next to Albert Haynesworth won’t suck.
Provided he keeps his helmet on.
On the other hand, there are more dangerous things, like dancing in front of Stephen McGee.
Spanglepuss said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I thought Chris Henry was gone from Cincy.
Also, memo to “Dr.” Bill Cosby. Your “doctorate” is an honorary degree. Stop making people call you “Dr.” Bill Cosby. If it’s a joke we don’t get it.
Ag_in_TX said:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Nope, Chris Henry is still on their active roster and has kept himself cleaned up since last season. With T.J. gone, he will likely be a starter.
jc25 said:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Per Wikipedia, Bill Cosby actually has a legitimate doctorate.
Emmett Fitzhume said:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Actually, Bill Cosby’s degree is a legit Ed.D from U Mass. It could be said that the fact that his diss. was based on Fat Albert as a “teaching tool” takes some of the value away, but that kind of thing is basically what an Ed.D is. His BA from Temple is honorary, however, granted because of his “life experience.”
Either way, though, anybody insisting that they should be called doctor when they can’t transplant a heart with a penknife or at the very least prescribe party favors is kind of a tool.
Black Scholes said:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Bill Cosby may be a lot of things, but a tool is not one of them. Lighten up.
Can we please lose the ‘Omaha Bound’ header here? The whole subject make me ill right now, and talking about Omaha on the heels of an 0-3-1 homestand is hubris at best. Just a personal thought anyway.
HenryJames said:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
“Bill Cosby may be a lot of things, but a tool is not one of them.”
Funny is also not one of them.
TaylorTRoom said:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/taylortroom/the-qb-recruit-class-of-2004-checking-in
Really got to do a follow up to this…
Spanglepuss said:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Chris Perry gone from Cincy.
Purify and Simpson are most likely gone from Cincy. Simpson has done nothing in two years and Purify wasn’t even on the practice squad all of last season. Caldwell isn’t exactly blowing up either.
Vasherized said:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Can we please lose the ‘Omaha Bound’ header here? The whole subject make me ill right now, and talking about Omaha on the heels of an 0-3-1 homestand is hubris at best. Just a personal thought anyway.
Sailor will probably change it up around the time we win a super regional and make it to Omaha.
Ag_in_TX said:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
I don’t know why you keep saying Chris Henry is gone from Cincy. It is not in the Cincinnati paper, nor is it a rumor on the Intraweb. Additionally, with T.J. Houshmandzadeh gone, they need him badly.
As I said, I think Purify, Urrutia, Freddie Brown and Cosby will be battling for two spots.
Facebook User said:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
First of all there’s a question mark! Secondly, it’s not hubris, it’s sloth. Get your criticisms straight!
Anyway, I just fired the team of interns in charge of the Featured Story merchandising.
What story would you like to see featured, Scholes?
list of charges said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I can’t keep track-of the players and the comments and the writers-what’s really real, here?
ValhallaRising said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Orakpo will need to develop a better way to disengage from contact if he wants to make an impact at the next level – or else he will be relegated to 3rd and long situations where he can pin his ears back. When I saw the video of Brandon Pettigrew collapsing (mauling) Orakpo, I instantly thought of the O-coordinators and O-line coaches in the NFL scheming to run his way. That written, I would NOT want my QB to take a 5 step drop with this guy across from him.
Scipio Tex said:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Pettigrew is easily the best blocking TE I’ve seen in the last decade at the college level. The only blocker I’ve seen comparable at TE was Jason Peters from Arkansas – who is now an All-Pro NFL OT.
Pettigrew definitely gave Orakpo some problems – as much because of his quickness as his strength. Orakpo finished the game with 6 tackles, 2 TFL and a sack but that’s a deceptive box score.
Interestingly, Brian never really struggled with the goliath OTs.
ValhallaRising said:
April 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Orakpo has all of the attributes to be VERY effective at the next level – I just hope he get’s the coaching to develop his second move should the run come his way. John Palermo will be his position coach – the same guy who touted Erasmus James of Wisconsin as the next Julius Peppers. Anyway, if Orakpo is fortunate to be on the same side as Haynesworth, that will be the biggest factor in his transition – a space eater in the gap will usually draw guard help.
TKO said:
April 28th, 2009 at 2:28 am
“TKO: Now I’m really confused. You corrected yourself to say that before this weekend OU was third in the Big 12 in active NFL players. But the Atomic Teeth article shows them being tied for 4th before this WE with KState.”
There’s a very good reason for your confusion, George: both my prior posts suck.
Essentially, they’re two brain farts in the same thread, with both being the unfortunate consequence of me trying to get dressed and out of the house in a hurry while simultaneously jumping from one horn-related website to another getting the latest info on where my Longhorns went in the draft.
So, let me amend, hopefully correctly and for the last time:
Scipio expressed surprise that Oklahoma has fewer current players in the NFL than Nebraska, both of which trail the Horns. I was even more surprised that prior to this weekend, OU had fewer current players in the NFL than three other Big XII teams (putting them tied for fourth before the most recent draft). They’ve now moved past A&M by one player to take sole possession of third place. It did, and still does, surprise me that A&M until very recently had more players in the pros than OU.
coach Callahan said:
April 28th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Purify was on cincy’s practice squad all season last year.
Spanglepuss said:
April 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Purify’s bio says only 12 (of 17) games. So he must have been an FA at some point. Probably realeased but told to stick around.
Petey said:
April 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Orakpo along with Haynesworth can help save Zorn’s job.
coach Callahan said:
April 29th, 2009 at 7:59 am
As required of all bengal receivers he took 5 weeks off the practice squad to complete an internship in law breaking.