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		<title>By: DR. Big Toe</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR. Big Toe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a product designed specifically for turf toe and it allows the player to play at full speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a product designed specifically for turf toe and it allows the player to play at full speed.</p>
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		<title>By: DBH</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/29/were-going-artificial/comment-page-1/#comment-36635</link>
		<dc:creator>DBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Miller described it thusly...

We&#039;re living in a plastic land
Somebody give me a hand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Miller described it thusly&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re living in a plastic land<br />
Somebody give me a hand</p>
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		<title>By: bateshorn</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/29/were-going-artificial/comment-page-1/#comment-36512</link>
		<dc:creator>bateshorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t have a nice grass field in Austin, Texas, really, what&#039;s the point in having a nice grass field, well, anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t have a nice grass field in Austin, Texas, really, what&#8217;s the point in having a nice grass field, well, anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here’s some more circumstantial evidence that Oregon is less than pleased with their new turf.. if Dixon doesn’t go down, he may have won the Heisman in 2007.&quot;

If I&#039;d had a vote, I would have voted for him. Don&#039;t care that he was hurt. He played enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here’s some more circumstantial evidence that Oregon is less than pleased with their new turf.. if Dixon doesn’t go down, he may have won the Heisman in 2007.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d had a vote, I would have voted for him. Don&#8217;t care that he was hurt. He played enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
		<link>http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/29/were-going-artificial/comment-page-1/#comment-36507</link>
		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly the data sets are large enough in magnitude that it is difficult to quibble with his conclusions... it&#039;s just jarring to me to see the statistics so at odds with my personal and observed experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the data sets are large enough in magnitude that it is difficult to quibble with his conclusions&#8230; it&#8217;s just jarring to me to see the statistics so at odds with my personal and observed experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you make of this?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you make of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  
 
Though the eternal problem with any study is that someone has to fund it.  In this case, I don&#039;t need a disinterested party so much as a robust data set - say, a publically available injury report warehouse compiled by the UIL to assess high school kid injuries.  
 
Even if it&#039;s funded by industry, I&#039;m comfortable drawing some conclusions if I don&#039;t see anything funny in their methodology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  </p>
<p>Though the eternal problem with any study is that someone has to fund it.  In this case, I don&#8217;t need a disinterested party so much as a robust data set &#8211; say, a publically available injury report warehouse compiled by the UIL to assess high school kid injuries.  </p>
<p>Even if it&#8217;s funded by industry, I&#8217;m comfortable drawing some conclusions if I don&#8217;t see anything funny in their methodology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scip, I&#039;d be interested in seeing those studies too, particularly ones not funded by the industry - I am quite bitter about my ACL injury.  Here&#039;s some more circumstantial evidence that Oregon is less than pleased with their new turf.. if Dixon doesn&#039;t go down, he may have won the Heisman in 2007.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2008/08/autzen_effect.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scip, I&#8217;d be interested in seeing those studies too, particularly ones not funded by the industry &#8211; I am quite bitter about my ACL injury.  Here&#8217;s some more circumstantial evidence that Oregon is less than pleased with their new turf.. if Dixon doesn&#8217;t go down, he may have won the Heisman in 2007.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2008/08/autzen_effect.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2008/08/autzen_effect.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it gets much hotter than grass.  I may try to surf around and try to find some epidemiological studies comparing injury incidence and relative risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it gets much hotter than grass.  I may try to surf around and try to find some epidemiological studies comparing injury incidence and relative risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me as one who definitely doesn&#039;t believe the hype that the newer artificial surfaces are much &quot;easier on the knees&quot; than the old turf.  I tore my ACL on FieldTurf in November, and I can _guarantee_ you that my cleat does not catch like that on any grass or dirt surface. 

The only studies I&#039;ve seen extolling the newer turf were funded by parties of interest, and other circumstantial evidence also indicates that grass should be the preferred surface.  I&#039;ve heard from several local HS coaches that their teams&#039; ankle and knee injuries in soccer and football have gone up, not down, since the installation of the Gen II turf surfaces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me as one who definitely doesn&#8217;t believe the hype that the newer artificial surfaces are much &#8220;easier on the knees&#8221; than the old turf.  I tore my ACL on FieldTurf in November, and I can _guarantee_ you that my cleat does not catch like that on any grass or dirt surface. </p>
<p>The only studies I&#8217;ve seen extolling the newer turf were funded by parties of interest, and other circumstantial evidence also indicates that grass should be the preferred surface.  I&#8217;ve heard from several local HS coaches that their teams&#8217; ankle and knee injuries in soccer and football have gone up, not down, since the installation of the Gen II turf surfaces.</p>
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