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Barnes Would Do Well to Watch Stephen Curry or Listen to Barkers

Posted by Trips Right on January 7th, 2009 under Basketball

And take a few notes on how to attack defenses that sell out to stop a shooter. Look, I know Curry is a much more dynamic scorer than Abrams, but the defensive principles opponents are using to slow down Curry are being used on AJ. Oh, and by the way, AJ’s supporting cast is MUUUCCHHH better than Curry’s. So what I’m proposing is a sort of counter to how teams set out to defend the Horns. It’s my contention that teams defending Texas all predicate their defensive attack on keeping AJ away from his jumper. Everything else is a combination of making other players beat them, like defending the post and keeping DJ away from the rim. But it all starts with Abrams. So with this knowledge in hand, Davidson Curry vs. Duke as my muse, and the help of a handful of Barkers, I offer this post on how we can counter what defenses are trying to do against Texas.

In watching Duke guard Curry tonight, I found it strikingly similar to how Wisconsin, MSU, and Arkansas defended AJ and the Horns.

First, and foremost, Duke is denying all passes that put Curry in a shooting position. If Curry wants the ball, he has to get it 35 ft. from the bucket.

Second, in some instances, mostly on staggered screens or true double screens, Duke’s bigs will hedge to the point of almost doubling Curry as a cutter. Helpside then comes over to guard the screener left by the over hedging big. You’ve seen Dex and Johson get deep pins and layups as a counter because it’s usually their man helping the hedger. And that’s fine, and something Texas has actually improved on from game to game. Countering with quick ball reversal to a quick post entry to attack a hedging baseline. Davidson doesn’t really have a frontcourt, so they’re generally screwed.

Third, Duke attacks the shooting hand in those few instances Curry does catch it in range. They don’t delicately close out to Curry, they attack his right hand. You see it vs. Abrams to. If you watched a game with me, you’ll probably hear, “shot fake, AJ, shot fake, holy shit that’s a bad shot”, about 8 times.

And finally, Duke’s 4 other players are fully aware of Curry and what he’s doing at all times. They have that luxury given the limited talent of Davidson’s supporting cast. They can get away with all the above strategies, overhedging, aggressive close outs, doubles, and switches. But teams that play Texas shouldn’t be able to take AJ out of the game with impugnity. We have players like James, Atchley, Johnson and Pitt that could all be number 1 options on a multitude of teams. And I guess that’s the crux of the post. How does Texas attack teams that sellout to take away Texas’ number 1 option?

I think Davidon’s deployment of Curry is a good start, but I’ll take the liberty of pulling some strategies that knowledgeable guys like The General, Kafka, Bob in Houston, Black Sholes, and others have discussed on the site. Hell, we’re not near as smart as high school coaches, but we can aspire to be. (This a pre-emptive strike against those that will come on here and say I’m no Rick Barnes. It’s also a veiled attempt at making Close to Jumping’s head explode.) So, let’s talk about AJ counter measures.

Counter Measure 1. Backcutting.
John Wooden won a bunch of national championships with backcutting as a staple of his offense. Pete Carrill put Princeton on the map and puckered Alonzo Morning’s backside with backcutting. It’s a novel concept, but its effectiveness in attacking overplays is undeniable. Pardon the pun. When was the last time we ran a backcut with AJ? I’m not talking about a backcut for a layup. I’m not greedy. My 401K has been in cash for a year now. I’m talking about a backcut off of pressure to set up other players by getting AJ into the lane and free of a defender. This cut conceivably sets up a two on one or three on two. Or along the same lines to relieve pressure how about backcutting AJ’s screeners to take advantage of hedging defenders more concerned about chasing AJ off a jumper. I’d love to see Gary Johnson catching the ball moving towards the goal on a backcut after setting a screen for Abrams. And there’s no law that says Dex can’t dive to the goal every once in a while. We’ve done some quick dives with Dex and Johnson, but we don’t do it enough. Watching Davidson tonight backcut Duke tonight got me thinking, why not us? Why not more?

Counter measure 2. Screen the box.
No, I’m not talking about HenryJames sex life, but I have to give credit to Kafka for this because one of his posts got me thinking about how teams are defending the Horns and more specifically AJ Abrams. The defensive deployment of the last 3 opponents resembles more of a box and 1 than it does a traditional ball-you-man principled M2M. Granted the other four defenders aren’t playing a true box or diamond zone, but they’re certainly not relying on helpside defense from AJ’s man and this is where screen the box comes in. Now granted AJ’s not the ideal screener in size and stature, but do you think his man helps off of him on a back screen knowing AJ’s two feet away from an easy catch and shoot 3? If AJ’s cross screening a big is the guard going to bump a cutting Dex risking getting caught in the trash leaving AJ alone for a corner J? The answer is no, and probably means a back cutter goes free or a crossing Big gets easy position. AJ will have to show some toughness, but his Dad was body guard, right? Screen the other defenders with AJ just like teams use the manned offensive player to screen the zone players vs. a box and 1. Again, credit to Kafka for the thought.

Counter Measure 3. Skip passing.
The General mentioned this in his outstanding House Shitting post and interestingly enough, Davidson has been using skip passing to exploit Duke’s overplay on Curry. The ingredients are simple, the floor is naturally spread by the team overplaying or denying your star. You run your AJ or Curry to the opposite corner, one side of the floor to the other. You can use staggered baseline screens or a simple cut. The ball is moved off the dribble or pass to the strongside wing. The opposite wing then fills the point if the move is off the dribble. The weakside wing is then filled by a shooter or slasher (Atchley or James) coming from the paint area or opposite corner, and then the ball is then skipped from wing to wing.

So what’s the advantage now that the balls on the other side of the floor? Well, you’ve got an overplayed (now weakside) corner (AJ), the ball on the strongside wing, a filled point with a shooting threat, a strongiside block posting up, a wing with the ball that’s a shooting/slashing threat who now has help running him, a post man going across the lane with his defender on his back, and your best shooter still drawing attention in the weakside corner eating up help. Davidson skipped rather effectively tonight without anything close to the talent of Texas. Skip passing flips the floor and catches the opponent out of position especially if they’re not playing solid M2M principles. And it’s no coincidence that the skip pass is considered a major weapon against zone defenses. Cause we’re not seeing traditional man, folks, we’re seeing pseudo-junk defenses.

Counter measure 4. Run.
Pop in a tape of any Roy Williams’ squad and you’ll see them running to set up their offense and not necessarily to get easy Phi Slamma Jamma buckets. Williams’ teams run because in his philosophy it’s important for offenses to put teams in help situations as early as possible in any given possession. Black Sholes and Bob in Houston have mentioned it several times on this site as a tonic to cure our point guard ills. And I agree wholeheartedly. When it comes to getting AJ Abrams better looks and getting better looks for the team in general, I think running to get easy buckets in the primary and secondary breaks make sense. Texas has the size and athleticism to control the defensive glass which is where it all starts. And Texas doesn’t need the traditional outlet to a greased lightning lead guard to start a break. A quick pass or sideline break style that gets us in an offense quickly, hopefully against mismatched defensive personnel, can bear fruit. Are there many 4’s and 5’s out there that will fan out to find Atchley at the arc on the break? How many of Arkansas’ 3 freshman starters have the experience to hedge a staggered baseline screen that’s run right out of a break? And it’s not like we’re not deep enough to run. Depth we have. Creators in a half court setting. Not so much.

I’m sure I’m missing some counters and feel free to add on, but as someone said, Augustin or Ford isn’t going to walk through the door. We are who we are in 2009. 2010 will be different, and I’m working on an article on how we’ll be different. I’ll post it after these other issues are addressed. With Mason, Lucas, Hamilton, and Bradley roaming the perimeter we won’t resemble the 2009 squad in the least. Why would we? We’ll be able to put 3 or 4 players on the floor at the same time that can all handle, pass, and shoot. We can field maybe 1 that meets that description now. Hell, we could run the Dribble Drive Motion offense next year if we wanted to. But that’s another post. We’re only a week into 2009 afterall.

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  1. Bob in Houston said:

    January 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Trips, he doesn’t have to listen to you, but if he and McKillop are such buddies, you’d think they’d talk.

  2. Kafka said:

    January 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Trips:
    Great post! I like the emphasis on making teams pay for overplaying Abrams and accepting that we don’t have an amazing point guard this year. The idea is to construct an offense that works with the personnel on hand.

    I would like to mention one thing that was fundamental about John Wooden’s offenses: he would customize them to produce shots for guys at spots where they had demonstrated proficiency. Shot selection was a huge thing for John Wooden.

    1. Back cutting by Abrams’ screener

    Great idea, I would just have the ball in Abrams hands outside (probably Abrams would be dribbling) and have the screener run towards Abrams and then back cut and let Abrams pass the ball. The obvious weakness is that this requires Abrams to pass the ball. This would be a great way to get the ball to the big men inside.

    2. Abrams setting picks:

    Not only would this produce easy buckets but it would discourage the opposition from overplaying Abrams.

    3. Skip passing

    Trips and I have discussed this before. Love the idea but my only concern is whether Damion and Connor (the most likely recipients of a skip pass) have good enough hands to reliably grab these big boy passes.

    4. Running

    I love the idea of running but wonder if the horns have the ball handling skills to pull it off. Nonetheless I would like to see Barnes push the idea until it either works or is a proven failure. Would love to see some secondary break buckets as well.

    5. Give and go with Abrams

    If the horns were to get the ball to Gary at the high post and Abrams was to then cut off Gary, Gary’s defender would almost certainly switch to Abrams. This would leave Gary in good shape to attack the bucket, defended only by Abrams’ original defender (who would now be behind Gary). This might work pretty well with Dex or Damion at the high post as well.

    The nice thing about high post give and go plays is that it is super easy to make the entry pass. If the D tries to deny the high post entry pass, they are totally vulnerable to a back cut by the high post player.

  3. bighornfan32 said:

    January 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Awesome Post. If indeed we are going to live and die by AJ’s jump shot, then we better find a way to get it to him.

  4. bighornfan32 said:

    January 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    I found a great website about basketball X’s and O’s. http://coachingbetterbball.blogspot.com/

  5. The General said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 6:48 am

    Awesomosity, Trips.

    In the vane of getting shots in transition, there is at least one wrinkle we used proficiently last year.

    The point guard pushes it up the floor directly to the wing and hands it off to AJ for a quick uncontested 3 because the ballhandler screens AJ’s guy. DJ ran it well. It works great in end of half scenarios. We have run it once this year, and turned the ball over.

    I know quick 3’s drive you nuts, Trips. But, at this point we are live and die with AJ, and quick, open shots are better than no shots.

  6. Kafka said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 7:06 am

    I don’t understand the feedback that the horns “are live or die with AJ”.

    The main point of Trips’ post is that the horns can generate easy shots for the other horns (i.e. not Abrams) by taking advantage of the fact that the opposition is selling out to stop Abrams.

  7. uthookem said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 7:31 am

    Yep, my basketball knowledge is limited to two seasons playing at the YMCA (I wore knee pads, but fuck off, the ground was hard when I was 8), and six points (in a season) when I made the 7th grade team (I got cut in the 8th grade so I drifted back to the baseball diamond…for good). I don’t understand too much of the back cuts and screens and dribble-drives mentioned above, but these are starting to help, so thanks!

    I enjoy watching this team play, specifically the development of Sexy Dexy. I had high hopes for Damion, but it just doesn’t seem to be coming together for him at the three. He is either going to leave this year for the NBA as an undersized four, or a three with limited NBA potential…another year may/may not help. AJ is a great Longhorn, and when he is hot, damn he’s fun to watch. I’m ready for Mason to get off the point so I can watch him play defense. I wish we could see the defensive effort we displayed against ‘Nova every night…that was really fun to watch.

    Overall, I still think we are no better than a Sweet 16 team at this point. If we can lose no more than 3 games in conference, then maybe Elite 8.

    Hook ‘em!

  8. The General said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 7:56 am

    “I don’t understand the feedback that the horns “are live or die with AJ”. ”

    All of Trips plans are based on a level of offensive execution that I have not seen in the Barnes era. I agree with everything he has said, but I am not sure how efficiently we can do it.

    The deep pins GJ and Dexter are getting are good sign that I may be wrong, and we can actually improve. The fact that we completely abandoned them for a long stretch in the 2nd half point to a fundamental lack of understanding by our players on how to counter the way teams are playing AJ.

    Since I don’t expect a fundamental improvement, I would settle for manufacturing good shots for AJ. We did a lot of good things on offense against Arkansas. If we get AJ a few more good looks from range, then we might win going away.

  9. South '06 said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Trips – You planning on doing a Big 12 season preview with conference play just a few days away? Would love to hear your thoughts.

  10. Kafka said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Counter Measure 6.

    Simple screen and roll with Abrams being the dribbler and one of Dex/Damion/Gary setting the pick and then rolling to the bucket. The D will certainly over hedge the screen and the screen will either be wide open or will be covered by a third defender (leaving some horn open).

    I assume that Abrams can get the ball easily enough when he is out of shooting range and can then dribble to a good position for the screen.

    Problem: Abrams has to make the pass.

  11. Trips Right said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    South, yes, we’ll have something for you.

  12. bighornfan32 said:

    January 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    The problem is that a lot of this depends on AJ passing, which he wont.

  13. Kafka said:

    January 10th, 2009 at 7:28 am

    General:

    This discussion is about what Barnes should do, not what he will actually do.

    The easiest way to get good looks for Abrams is to make the D pay for overplaying him. Once the horns start generating easy looks for Damion, Dex, Gary, and Connor when the D overplays Abrams, the D will have much less incentive to overplay Abrams.

    The beauty of the counter measures approach is that these plays tend to look like plays aimed at getting a shot for Abrams so it is quite easy to learn and run these plays. Why not take advantage of the D over playing Abrams to easily get good shots for everybody else?

    Abrams is by far the best 3 point shooter on the team but if you are willing to settle for a 2 pointer (which is fine most of the time), Dex, Gary, Damion, and Connor are all great options.

    Focusing the offense strictly on Abrams when the other players are so talented makes no sense. Abrams is not even even the best choice to generate his own shot. Gary is probably best at getting his own shot. If covered by a bigger guy, Gary can shoot the ball outside. If the bigger guy tries to take that away, Gary is quite good at driving to the hoop and finishing. If Gary is defended by a smaller, quicker guy, Gary can post him up on the low post very efficiently.

  14. Bob in Houston said:

    January 11th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    I’m watching UNC-WF right now and getting irritated watching big guys slip screens and get layups. I saw Iowa State do it late in the game yesterday.

    It’s probably the second-most popular play in basketball, after the give and go… and RB’s guards either can’t or won’t make the pass.

    I’m beginning to think it’s “can’t.”

  15. Kafka said:

    January 11th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Bob:

    I know what you mean. Anybody who fakes screening for Abrams and back cuts will be wide open until the weak side defender comes over (presumably leaving somebody like Connor wide open for a relaxed 3).

    There was a little progress in this area vs. ISU. They would set up a double screen for Abrams on one side and Gary on the opposite side. When Abrams took off to run around the double screen, that left Gary alone and the ball was passed to him a few times.

    The good news is that Damion looked a lot better vs ISU. He is getting more comfortable with taking a couple of dribbles into a jump stop and finishing with a flush (just like Gary except that Gary usually finishes with a layup).

    Dex is drawing an automatic double team put finishing well against good D. Gary is drawing a double team. Any screen for Abrams gets hedged.

    All of these guys can distort a D and make it vulnerable to some crisp passing.

    You can divide the horns into 3 groups.

    Abrams and Gary can draw a double team but are not likely to pass.

    Connor, Mason, Ward, and Balbay will make the pass but can’t draw the double team.

    The only guys who can draw a double team who will also make the pass are Damion and Dexter. That is why it makes sense to me to post these guys up at the high post and run some give and go with them.

    Also, Dex is turning into such a monster on the low post that there has to be a focus on getting the ball into him when he is in the game. It would probably be better if Damion or Connor makes the entry pass.

    I’m pretty optimistic. Barnes has some guys with a lot of skill and he finally seems to realize that a balanced offense is a good thing. My hope is that he will have some fun with it.

    One thing that I don’t understand is why Damion and Gary played so few minutes vs ISU.

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