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Posted by srr50 on January 6th, 2009 under Uncategorized
When it comes to watching the National Championship game this Thursday night, Longhorn DC Will Muschamp falls firmly in line the with our own CloseToJumping, who deeply believes that there is NEVER, NEVER, NEVER any reason for a Longhorn to root for a Sooner win.
Muschamp is quoted on the Dallas Morning News website

“I’m not rooting for them,” Muschamp said. “I might watch the game but I’m not rooting, I guarantee you that.”.
2009 BCS Championship Game, College Football, Never, Never Root for OU, Will Muschamp
Farmer Ted commented on the blog post Recruiting the Trenches ago
Nice job with this – and welcome to the network, on behalf of Better Off Red. See you at the Fantake retreat in Vegas that Sailor Ripley is sponsoring this summer!
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J Rog commented on the blog post Game Day: Spurs vs. Lakers Open Thread ago
Fell apart in the fourth quarter again. Can’t give up 28 points to close out a game. Spurs, Longhorns….heartache once again.
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Farmer Ted commented on the blog post Thoughts on the win in Austin ago
Nice job Hiphop. Very nice to win what is probably the toughest game on the schedule handily, although the Hawks obviously caught UT at a good time.
The Morningstar FT was terrible and hilarious. He said the ball was wet, which clearly means Texas was cheating somehow. Would the second chance off balance leaner
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J Rog wrote a new blog post: Missed Opportunities: Spurs vs. Lakers Recap ago
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. This game was served up on a silver platter for the Spurs and they managed to fumble it like a Minnesota Viking in the playoffs.
I think perhaps Will Ferrell can describe my emotions on the current state of the Spurs season better than I.
The Spurs hung around for most of the
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Mister Mike commented on the blog post Did Rick Barnes use a plant last night to distract KU players? ago
I think KU should demand an immediate investigation. Find someone to get to the bottom of this.
I volunteer myself.
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Top 8 Teams in College Hoops ago
Georgetown?
RRR commented on the blog post Thoughts on the win in Austin ago
Good write up, hiphop. I love the versatitility of the Morris twins on defense. Xavier Henry is probably the key to a big run in the tournament. If he starts hitting open looks, the inside game will really open up. Post to post passing is fun to watch.
It’s pretty nice when
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Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 4 minutes ago
Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1mOrMQXYw
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 4 minutes ago
Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1mOrMQXYw
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 4 minutes ago
Here is more info on Frazier. He is such a great player, and Arkansas needs to land him in a big way.
http://www.kiehlfrazier15.com/Home.html
These Highlights are from his Sophomore year, and he had a bigger and better 2009. OH MY!
Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 7 minutes ago
It takes more time…unless you’re a Kentucky fan.
RRR commented on the blog post Mid-Season Thoughts and OU Pre-Game 8 minutes ago
Thanks Trips. I’m hoping for lots of Willie Warren trying to be Sheron Collins. TMG in sync is the scariest thing to face in Norman. That or we get beat up on the boards which seems to be recurring theme of Texas Tech road games.
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slugfest commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 9 minutes ago
I don’t think it’s a case of RB not being able to coach, or doing a poor job of coaching. If you read the entirety of Katz’ blog post, he clearly sounds like a coaching searching for answers — answers that come in the form of players contributing, doing what they are coached to do.
Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post John Pelphrey’s Unconventional Approach 16 minutes ago
I agree that an NIT bid would be acceptable this year, but that if the Razorbacks can get to 20 wins they will have a very good chance at the NCAA Tourney.
Our RPI is bad, and we have no signature wins.
However, we have 8 games left on the SEC regular season schedule. If we
Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post John Pelphrey’s Unconventional Approach 16 minutes ago
I agree that an NIT bid would be acceptable this year, but that if the Razorbacks can get to 20 wins they will have a very good chance at the NCAA Tourney.
Our RPI is bad, and we have no signature wins.
However, we have 8 games left on the SEC regular season schedule. If we
Blake Stansbery commented on the blog post Recruiting the Trenches 21 minutes ago
TP welcome to the network.
I like how you broke this down, and identified which positions history shows a high star ranking has proven to be important. I personally feel that after what all the recruiting sites dub their top players that there is a major falloff. We all love that the recruiting sites bring
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Art Vandelay commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 21 minutes ago
Groundhog Day said:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am“How can everyone on the team have worse basketball sense than my 5th graders? Honestly? We are the dumbest bunch I have ever seen. We weren’t earlier in the year. Hell, Bradley was smartest player, by far, in any of the summer h.s. games. Now he plays
Farmer Ted commented on the blog post Petrino Building Fence Around Arkansas 24 minutes ago
Good stuff JA. But the Huskers call dibs on any dual threat QB named Frazier thankyouverymuch.
Hiphopopotamus commented on the blog post Did Rick Barnes use a plant last night to distract KU players? 26 minutes ago
I’m convinced.
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skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 31 minutes ago
“No, but I became a man in Juarez.”
I bet in your fantasy you were the donkey in the show ? No ?“Eight Dollar drink-and-drowns, and cans that merely say “beer” in Juarez will turn anyone into a man”
That is why Trips was drinking river water by the bridge for too many years. In the
Darius Pourceau commented on the blog post John Pelphrey’s Unconventional Approach 32 minutes ago
I don’t think we have to win the SEC tourny necessarily. If we make it to the SEC Tourny championship game and have won about 20 games, I would say a tourny bid would look likely. But that is a pretty big task. I know no one cares about the NIT, but that wouldnt be
Nordberg commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 37 minutes ago
I like Varez Ward, but he doesn’t seem like the magical missing piece to me. And we’ve got like 15 other guys on scholarship. Losing Varez Ward shouldn’t turn the season into a trainwreck.
Barnes’ “we’re going to fix it” quotes are starting to remind me of Greg Davis talking about fixing the running game. If
Mister Mike commented on the blog post Thoughts on the win in Austin 38 minutes ago
Don’t follow basketball as much as you guys do here, but I did watch that game last night. Using my extensive experience in analyzing the sport (next to none) the game felt like it had that “Big Game” feel to it, but somehow it just didn’t turn out that way. Kind of…lackluster?
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Nordberg commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 47 minutes ago
How much is Mark Few making? Hell, make a run at Izzo. We can do that kind of shit now.
Trips that Barnes quote is infuriating, considering that our entire fanbase has been saying that exact same line for months. Has he been hoping this whole time that they’d turn into Augustin and Gibson?
Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 50 minutes ago
No, but I became a man in Juarez.
Mister Mike commented on the blog post Carl Pelini Remains Red 57 minutes ago
Personally, I think it’s going to be a long time, if ever, before Carl considers leaving. Him and Bo share some kind of vulcan mind-meld when it comes to the defense. He knows exactly what Bo wants and what he expects and he gets that shit done. I’m glad NU awarded him
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 58 minutes ago
EP, Gillispie is a helluva coach but he’s a horrible representation for any marquee program.
Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 58 minutes ago
EP, Gillispie is a helluva coach but he’s a horrible representative of any marquee program.
skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Kansas: Post-Mortem 58 minutes ago
Yeah but El Paso / West Texas are known for unknown phenomena , like the lights , strange things happen out in the desert.
Gilly may be a UFO flier for all we know.
Look at Trips he is kind of strange with his fantasy on trim and stripper poles, sometimes I think that Trips
Hiphopopotamus wrote a new blog post: Thoughts on the win in Austin 58 minutes ago
We weren’t overly impressive, and at the same time, it may have been this team’s most impressive win. The game didn’t have much rhythm. We never shot it well. In fact, our two best guys can’t be much worse from the field. But damned if we didn’t guard them – especially in that first half.
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Trips Right said:
January 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
This thing is going to get really fun in the coming years. Srr50, if you get the chance could you post your write up on the ‘76 game? I love it because it cuts to the core of what this rivalry is about.
bgood2texas said:
January 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I love this man.
Jamarcu$ said:
January 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
U root or I cap yo a$$
Jamarcu$ said:
January 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Mama said keep my mowf shut. She gonna cap yo a$$.
glenn said:
January 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
actually, jamarkup, there is a silver lining for the longhorns in your story.
longtime longhorn fans will tell you that coach brown didn’t really understand aggies until that game right after the bonfire incident. regardless of what he had been told, he didn’t really understand the situation with a&m until then.
how the sooners did you and your family has educated coach blood.
i understand that actually you had a fondness for our place until things beyond your control fouled that situation. for that reason i will probably always have some fondness for you. i hope you fare well except . . . well, you know.
Levander Williams said:
January 7th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Outstanding.
It took Mack two 60+ point asskickings to get it, so I’m pleased to see that Will is being proactive in his grasp of the OU rivalry is concerned.
CloseToJumping said:
January 7th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I posted this before the Tech game, when the majority of Texas fans, including posters on this site, were squatting to pee and claiming the need to root for OU. I still think it holds true.
******
“For one, an OU victory brings harm to our lifeblood, recruiting. Please don’t ever doubt this. OU victories against Poontang State harm us in recruiting, much less victories in the national spotlight against another highly ranked team. They reap benefits from talking heads, high school coaches, and worse. We compete year in and year out for players that compare the two programs. Every moment like this matters significantly for multiple years to come. The more they can appear to be headed downward, the better it is for us. Rooting for them is tantamount to rooting for us to lose to them over the next half-decade.
For two, rooting for OU is a dirty act against God and he resents it. It goes against our religion and there are consequences for that. Our nature is to loathe them for good reason and defying nature is dangerous. These are dirty folk. They lack opposable thumbs and breathe openly through their mouths. They cheat and steal, usually from family and friends. Rooting for them is pretty much a clean break from who you are and there is not a real way back to who you were. You can’t unring that bell. Your Oklahomic flambosity will be noticed by the rest of us and you’ll never be able to wash that stink off of you. Crossing over to the other side is a despicable act of treachery and you should be hunted down and gutted with an ice cream scooper by your family.”
******
I just quoted myself. Awesome. Anyway, the idea that there are still people out there cheering for OU ostensibly because of Texas interests frightens me to my core. These must be the dumbest human beings on the planet.
Demi said:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
“actually, jamarkup, there is a silver lining for the longhorns in your story.
longtime longhorn fans will tell you that coach brown didn’t really understand aggies until that game right after the bonfire incident. regardless of what he had been told, he didn’t really understand the situation with a&m until then.”
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Sadly, a lot of people are unaware of such incidents as these.
I often wish there were a webpage, here or elsewhere, devoted to such history. I think it would be interesting, and it would help everyone understand why our rivalry with OU is less than friendly.
spoon fed said:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
I remember when those kids died at the bonfire. But I didn’t know something else had happened. plz explain?
Stuck in MN said:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
As far as a webpage on why we hate OU, here is a good start.
http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/taylortroom/the-history-of-college-football-recruiting-cheating-part-5
You could also google Royal+Switzer+spygate, or any quote from Switzer, Bosworth or Billy Simms about Texas.
And it is good to see that Will gets it. DKR had a special hatred for OU, despite (or perhaps because of?) the fact he played for them.
hopefulhorn said:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Texas is inside the heads of both OU and aggy forever. Both wallow in the victimhood of perpetual resentment of us as an essential core of their identity. aggy sings and chants about how much they hate us while OU waves homemade signs and flashes horns down in front of every camera they can find.
People who allow (invite) others to take up residence inside their skulls in this manner will do things that others will not and it is these things that have been raised in this thread. I agree that rooting for them is naive and foolish but would argue more for indifference over hatred. Actively hating gives them more time, energy and brain-space than they deserve. It also brings us a step closer to being like them. Not worth it.
TxTower said:
January 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Never, ever root for the Sooners. Never.
Black Scholes said:
January 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I didn’t ‘root’ for OU to win, but I did think it was in our best interests for Tech to lose. Man, did I have that wrong. Like wildly, cluelessly, Greg Davis-unattended-in-the-booth-with-the-playbook wrong.
In roughly 30 years of Texas games, and 20 as a season ticket holder, the Ohio State game in Columbus and the Bonfire game were the two ugliest displays of jackass fans I’ve ever encountered. The Buckeyes I just underestimated; I’ve never viewed the populace that calls themselves ‘aggy’ in the same way since that game. F* ‘em both.
Counter examples FWIW were Auburn, USC and most of the fine people who are college baseball fans and have made the trek to Omaha (if you’re a Nebraska alum, please sit down however. You may be the angriest people in the Midwest when you see the burnt of orange).
CloseToJumping said:
January 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
My experience with USC fans was less happy than yours, Black Scholes. Every USC fan we met while attending the title game was a complete piece of shit. Their behavior on the Internet coincides with that. It was a pleasure watching their spirits crumble as VY scored.
South '06 said:
January 7th, 2009 at 10:15 am
“aggy sings and chants about how much they hate us”
…Because those are the words. The current student body didn’t write ‘em and 90% of them view the Texas game as just another reason to get drunk on a Saturday.
Not everybody cares as much about football as we do.
Huckleberry said:
January 7th, 2009 at 10:15 am
So how about singing the other verses every once in a while instead of ignoring them to sing only the verse that is all about Texas?
CashmeyaMcFar said:
January 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Show me the money!!!!
Levander Williams said:
January 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I will have to concur with CtJ on his assessment of USC fans – the ones that I encountered in Pasadena were arrogant pricks.
A brief synopsis of a conversation with some spoiled daddy’s girl who told us that she actually went to school at Pepperdine but was a big Trojan fan:
Spoiled SC Fan Girl: So…who’s your best player?
Me: Vince Young.
Spoiled SC Fan Girl: Who? What position does he play?
Ms. Levander: Vince is our quarterback.
Spoiled SC Fan Girl: Oh. I don’t know anything about him.
Ms. Levander: Don’t worry, you will.
Between that one, the 20-something red-head pissing and moaning about “all these ignorant hicks” and the 60-odd year old woman who was bitching about the game afterward, claiming that Leinart didn’t play well (around 30 of 40 passing for nearly 300 yards, if I recall), I don’t know who was worse.
Bitchy Old SC Woman: We just didn’t play well.
Me: You guys have a great team. And I enjoyed watching you guys clobber Oklahoma last year – we can’t stand those guys.
Bitchy Old SC Woman: That was a great USC team…better than this one. Last year’s team wouldn’t have lost tonight.
Ms. Levander: Well, we weren’t playing last year’s team tonight, were we? We beat the only one we needed to beat.
Still, I’d pull for them over OU – I hate OU.
Black Scholes said:
January 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
ctj – I’m sure you agree it’s always based on an individual’s firsthand experience. We scored ESPN comp tickets on the 20+, so found ourselves in the thick of some SC fans who were either big donors, longstanding season ticket holders or former players. At the end of the game, almost to a man, as the 2-3 rows above us filed out they came by to shake our hands and at least say it was a helluva game. That coupled with a minimum of encounters with the face-painted bandwagon fans outside defined my impressions. In fact, the only SC fan who was a real jackass was a buddy of ours whose house we were staying at.
Funny story, on our way to the Michigan Rose Bowl we stopped to pick up another buddy of the aforementioned SC fan; he gets in the car attired in his best Ohio State jersey and over the course of the next 3-4 hours proceeds to prove himself as one of the most obnoxious and annoying people I’ve ever encountered. Right there I had all of the information I needed for the Columbus trip. I just didn’t know how to interpret it.
Black Scholes said:
January 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Also, if you encountered anyone selling something with a Rose Bowl logo you probably had a nice experience. They f*ing loved us. I think the Texas fans bought everything not nailed or glued down. The merchandisers said they had never seen anything like it.
Mysterious Package said:
January 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Yeah they said they liked having Texas people buy up everything. They hated Wisconson fans however, win or lose apparently they go back to their winabego with their wallet. Cheap asses!
Stuck in MN said:
January 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
black- interesting comment on the Husker fans. I went to Lincoln for football games in 02 and 06 and had nothing but a pleasant experience with their fans, and this was after 2 games that had to be heartbreaking losses for them. Maybe their baseball fans are a bit different and not used to success.
I concur on the OSU fans- biggest group of d-bags I’ve ever experienced. While I’ve never been to a game at Arkansas, a friend that was with us had, and he said even the hillbillies were tolerable compared to the jorts. Throw in the fact that we had never even played OSU so had no rivalry of any sort with them, and you can grasp the extent of the d-baggery. I’d require an armed police escort to go into that town wearing maize and blue.
abraxex said:
January 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Southern Cal fans are, on average, the worst. After the NC game, I talked with a UT fan who watched the game in the Rose Bowl parking lot. A tent was set up, with a UT fan providing one TV and an SC fan another. She said it was a mixed crowd; for whatever reason, she found herself watching the game on the SC end. When White was stopped on fourth down and the Horns got the ball, the SC fan turned his TV off. She had to scramble to the other end of the tent to see the end of the game.
I lived in Calif for several years and know some good SC fans. Most of them, however, are bandwagon fans who know nothing about the game. While people in our part of the country are playing bridge, SC fans are still at the level of crazy eights. They just believe the L.A. team is always supposed to win, like the Lakers. When Pete Carroll retires and SC hires Ted Tollner, Jr. to replace him, they’ll go back to spending Saturday afternoons playing beach volleyball or sitting in the perpetual parking lot that is the 405 Freeway.
Bullhorn said:
January 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Well, he said he is not rooting for them (OU), but he didn’t say he was rooting for Florida. He said he might watch the game, but he was not rooting. Perhaps he is just not a rooter.
Captain Mephisto said:
January 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
A while back I reported to the Longhorn faithful why Texas was passed over in favor of OU for the Big 12 South title. (To recapitulalte: I now hold deed deed to Bob Stoops’ soul).
Today, I thought I would chime in to support brother CTJ’s sermon from the text of Matthew 16:26. You’re probably wondering why I’m willing to give away the game. It’s simple, really. I’ve always had a soft spot for Longhorn Fans for the sole reason that I have a tough time corrupting the generality of them, the guys like CTJ. Oh, there are always weaklings who I can pick off, but for the most part, Horn fans are like CTJ, irrascible and incorruptable sons of bitches. Besides that, I have plenty of suckers willing to fall for my pitch in Okahoma, Southern California, and throughout the SEC. Even Texas’ coaches are customarily hard to sell. When I made my pitch to Royal, he had me run windsprints, and when I offered Muschamp the same deal Stoops took, the sumbitch head-butted me and then kicked me in the balls. It caused my ears to ring so that I couldn’t quite make out what he shouted at me, something like, ” doom bloody sucker.” It wasn’t always so.
Think back to 1983. Nebraska a solid #1 (Coach Osborn wouldn’t come on board until the Lawrence Phillips days), and folks thought they couldn’t be beat. Your Longhorns seemed destined to finish #2 even if they remained unbeaten through the Cotton Bowl. Only a twice beaten Oklahoma and what most thought to be an overmatched Miami team stood in Nebraska’s way.
It was in these circumstances that I was able to lead the Children of Texas astray and persuade them to root for Oklahoma. What did it profit Longhorn fans to exchange their souls in order to root for Barry Switzer? To begin with, they were smitten with a Craig Curry fumble in the Cotten Bowl. Just to twist the knife a little, Nebraska fell to Miami that very night. The celestial application of retribution can be cruel. Two years later I paid the final installment on the deal I had cut with Switzer and OU won another national title.
But it didn’t stop there. The tribe of Darryl was forced to wander in the deserts of college football for two and twenty years before Saint Vincent was finally able to lead them back to the promised land. So fair warning to a fan base I have grown to admire, the next time I whisper in your ear that an Oklahoma win will benefit Texas, and as a result, you even momentarily consider rooting for those sorry bastards, say three Hail Muschamps and five our Darryls. Then go forth and sin no more.
harry walnuts said:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Fuck OU and the whore they rode in to hell on!!! I’ll never root for those fuckers! If it’s OU against the hounds of hell with Hitler at QB running the triple option…GO SATAN!!!
Parlin Hall said:
January 8th, 2009 at 12:22 am
“If it’s OU against the hounds of hell with Hitler at QB running the triple option…”
One wonders whether the belly give to Genghis Khan would be more dangerous than the pitch to Manson.
Or what the call by the Fox network would sound like.
Captain Mephisto said:
January 8th, 2009 at 3:31 am
Parlin
You’re pretty close on my All-Hell backfield.
QB: Adolph Hitler, “the Carryin’ Aryan”
FB: Genghis “Crazy Legs” Khan
RHB: Joseph Stalin, “The Georgia Cabbage”
LHB: Thomas de Torquemada, “the Castillian Stallilon”
I’ve seen the scouting reports on Manson. He’ll never be anything more than a scrub. I have him slated to be the target during team cleating practice.
To close the deal with Bill Clinton, I agreed to let him be drum major in “the Goin’ Band frim Brinstone land”–pussy. He and Switzer visited on the same recruiting trip. I threw them one hell of a party. There was plenty of blow, and just for kicks, I had Lucretia Borgia and Cleopatra romance each other. Later that night I caught Switzer screwing Mrs. Mephisto while Clinton shoved a cigar up her ass and jacked of! When they finally get down here for good, there’s going to be hell to pay.
mysterious package said:
January 8th, 2009 at 5:59 am
What is this thread about?
D D D said:
January 8th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Good God…this is brilliant. I have never read this blog before, but I will now. I want to punch out an OU fan…
java said:
January 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How sweet it is! Florida and Texas both beat OU on a neutral field by 10 points, but we did it with Murray and the OU stud linebacker (until he was injured) playing for the Land Thieves.
1) Texas #1
2) Florida #2
3) Utah #3
4) Bama #4
Note: Tech back has faded back into obscurity where they belong.
Hook ‘em!
Will Muschamp said:
January 9th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Boomer mother sooner!