Comments on: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly – Texas 24, Ohio State 21 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/ Texas Longhorns and sports Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:27:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Penalty Extended Drive http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34290 Penalty Extended Drive Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:29:13 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34290 I thought my name was called too often. Particularly on the drive where only one penalty occurred and it was declined. But also on the drive where had the one penalty been declined, the next play would have been 2nd and 2 from the 30. Please don't call my name unless the absence of the penalty call would result in a 4th down. Thanks in advance. I thought my name was called too often. Particularly on the drive where only one penalty occurred and it was declined.

But also on the drive where had the one penalty been declined, the next play would have been 2nd and 2 from the 30.

Please don’t call my name unless the absence of the penalty call would result in a 4th down.

Thanks in advance.

]]> By: Gene Claude http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34205 Gene Claude Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:41:04 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34205 Plus, you don't need to do the rugby kick every time, just the threat of the rugby kick kills the punt rush. Mizzou had the luxury of having a left footed punter and a right footed kicker that could each do a rugby punt from either side. OUtside of Maclin and Coffman, that was our only luxury. Plus, you don’t need to do the rugby kick every time, just the threat of the rugby kick kills the punt rush.

Mizzou had the luxury of having a left footed punter and a right footed kicker that could each do a rugby punt from either side. OUtside of Maclin and Coffman, that was our only luxury.

]]> By: FireFred http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34201 FireFred Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:24:42 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34201 Valued thoughts: No Rugby punts inside our 40 allowed. GD went fetal the first half. Our running game is the most predictable in the land. tOSU played their best game of the season and is better than advertised. Texas D did little to erase the Big 12 D stereotype. Great teams learn to win ugly. Blake Gideon is a gutsy kid but is not an every down player. Valued thoughts:

No Rugby punts inside our 40 allowed.

GD went fetal the first half.

Our running game is the most predictable in the land.

tOSU played their best game of the season and is better than advertised.

Texas D did little to erase the Big 12 D stereotype.

Great teams learn to win ugly.

Blake Gideon is a gutsy kid but is not an every down player.

]]> By: Kafka http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34174 Kafka Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:19:10 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34174 Trips: The rugby kick is pretty cool and it has the advantages you mentioned: * top spin on the ball so that it rolls a lot * unpredictability in bounces so that it is tough to catch * can buy some extra time for the coverage to get down field Plus it makes the D unlikely to try to block a punt because they don't know where the ball is going to be punted from. Plus, it is more likely to produce the opportunity for the punter to run for first down. What is not to like? * it is more difficult to execute. It is tougher to kick a ball on the run at a 90 degree angle to the direction you are running than it is to execute a traditional punt. To illustrate, which is easier to throw, the pass where you step into the pass in the direction you are throwing or the pass where you are running towards the sideline and then whip the ball across your body downfield? The same ideas apply in punting. Because it easier to execute a traditional punt than a rugby style punt, it is easier to be precise on a regular punt than a rugby style punt. This means that the regular style punt makes more sense on short punts. Rugby style punts are great when you have plenty of field to work with but not the best approach when you are trying to be quite precise on a short punt. Rugby kicks are also more likely to get flubbed than a traditional kick. Trips:
The rugby kick is pretty cool and it has the advantages you mentioned:
* top spin on the ball so that it rolls a lot
* unpredictability in bounces so that it is tough to catch
* can buy some extra time for the coverage to get down field

Plus it makes the D unlikely to try to block a punt because they don’t know where the ball is going to be punted from. Plus, it is more likely to produce the opportunity for the punter to run for first down.

What is not to like?
* it is more difficult to execute. It is tougher to kick a ball on the run at a 90 degree angle to the direction you are running than it is to execute a traditional punt.

To illustrate, which is easier to throw, the pass where you step into the pass in the direction you are throwing or the pass where you are running towards the sideline and then whip the ball across your body downfield? The same ideas apply in punting.

Because it easier to execute a traditional punt than a rugby style punt, it is easier to be precise on a regular punt than a rugby style punt. This means that the regular style punt makes more sense on short punts.

Rugby style punts are great when you have plenty of field to work with but not the best approach when you are trying to be quite precise on a short punt.

Rugby kicks are also more likely to get flubbed than a traditional kick.

]]> By: Trips Right http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34166 Trips Right Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:51:01 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34166 The rugby style kick does a few things to help your coverage teams get to where they need to be. First, the roll out portion gives the gunners an extra couple seconds and the actual ball rolling creates doubt in the returner that he can field the punt cleanly. Third, the rollout motion makes the defenders over the gunners respect a fake. What's not to like? The rugby style kick does a few things to help your coverage teams get to where they need to be. First, the roll out portion gives the gunners an extra couple seconds and the actual ball rolling creates doubt in the returner that he can field the punt cleanly. Third, the rollout motion makes the defenders over the gunners respect a fake. What’s not to like?

]]> By: hopefulhorn http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34165 hopefulhorn Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:49:47 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34165 "there is a reason the Fiesta Bowl is considered the least desireable of the BCS bowls." I've also heard that the Rose Bowl is the best. Would you all who have been agree? “there is a reason the Fiesta Bowl is considered the least desireable of the BCS bowls.”

I’ve also heard that the Rose Bowl is the best. Would you all who have been agree?

]]> By: bigguggly http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34163 bigguggly Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:41:53 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34163 From someone actually at the game, The Fiesta Bowl Game was as poorly managed and presented as any game I have ever attended. It seemed that between every play some group of kids was being given some useless award. The continuity of the football game (watching a game was why I spent the money to attend) was compromised horribly. I loved the win, but there is a reason the Fiesta Bowl is considered the least desireable of the BCS bowls. From someone actually at the game, The Fiesta Bowl Game was as poorly managed and presented as any game I have ever attended.

It seemed that between every play some group of kids was being given some useless award. The continuity of the football game (watching a game was why I spent the money to attend) was compromised horribly.

I loved the win, but there is a reason the Fiesta Bowl is considered the least desireable of the BCS bowls.

]]> By: c.c.rider http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34154 c.c.rider Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:56:10 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34154 the "rugby punt" is nothing more than the old "quick kick"[field position tool] of the 40's and 50's except they do it on 4th down now and it's not so quick now and it's 2009 now and i'll shut up now the “rugby punt” is nothing more than the old “quick kick”[field position tool] of the 40’s and 50’s

except they do it on 4th down now
and it’s not so quick now
and it’s 2009 now
and i’ll shut up now

]]> By: upgrayedd http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34152 upgrayedd Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:43:20 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34152 Instead of treating myself to the halftime wisdom of Messrs George and Switzer, I switched over to Houston Public Access. It was much higher quality programming. Instead of treating myself to the halftime wisdom of Messrs George and Switzer, I switched over to Houston Public Access. It was much higher quality programming.

]]> By: mileslong http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2009/01/06/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21/comment-page-2/#comment-34145 mileslong Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:35:03 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/eyesoftx/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-texas-24-ohio-state-21#comment-34145 <b>I realized; second, he took care of the ball really well. I think OSU is very fortunate to have him, but comparisons to VY are unwarranted, akin to comparing Jordan Shipley with Ed McCaffrey.</b> um, don't you mean that is "askin" to comparing Jordan Shipley with Ed McCaffrey? I realized; second, he took care of the ball really well. I think OSU is very fortunate to have him, but comparisons to VY are unwarranted, akin to comparing Jordan Shipley with Ed McCaffrey.

um, don’t you mean that is “askin” to comparing Jordan Shipley with Ed McCaffrey?

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