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Jamarku$ McFarland already backtracking on New York Times story
Posted by Trips Right on December 28th, 2008 under Football, Recruiting
A tip of the cap to poster 98 for the heads up. Outstandingly predictable snippets about Thayer’s Fantasy Island article on the McFarland recruitment.
Girls Romancing each other at a Texas Football party?
The Times article included inflammatory statements McFarland had written about the recruiting practices of Texas and LSU for a senior English class assignment.
McFarland said he embellished a passage taken from the English paper detailing free alcohol and drugs and topless women at a party of Texas fans in Dallas.
“Some things we knew were kind of mixed up because (the reporter) got a paper of mine,” McFarland said. “The paper I wrote for an English class – it was spiced up a little bit for class. But a majority of it was correct.
“I could have said I just went to a party. For an English paper – I’m taking a college course – you’ve got to explain. It’s brainstorming. If I knew he was getting it, I would have known what was right and what wasn’t right.”
McFarland declined to indicate what parts of his English paper were “spiced up,” but reiterated no Texas players or coaches were at the party in Dallas.
He said he was not sure how the Times reporter obtained the English paper but suspected a family member had given it to him.
“I didn’t know he had it,” McFarland said, referring to Times reporter Thayer Evans. “He came to my house one time when I dropped LSU (from consideration) just to observe. I think he got it then.”
A lavish party hosted by boosters, coaches or players during the recruitment of a prospect as McFarland described in his paper is forbidden by NCAA.
McFarland said neither he nor his mother have heard from the NCAA since the story was published. He said he has not spoken to Texas or LSU since the story ran.
Hilarious crawfishing going on from the sooner camp. Credibility shot. Game over for sooner backers. Again, from Rivals. Some interesting comments from Jamarkus’ handler mother.
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Drunken Rooster said:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
So who invited him to the party and who took him there. If the party was put on by UT boosters and if it is a NCAA violation then the UT compliance folks will be on it and we will soon know. This is ,imo, a clear case of momma asking us to bid on J-Mac and our saying no way and our telling the NCAA about it.
Then ou freaks out and comes up with a strategy in cohoots with momma.
Slappy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Chicago Sun Times with the Thayer Thlap Down…
Parlin Hall said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
From the Sun Times piece by Kevin Allen:
“It’s a shame Evans didn’t do his due diligence on this piece. Without this glaring and inexcusable flaw, it’s a great piece of journalism and a compelling story.”
Uh . . . Didn’t the story essentially center on this “flaw”? I love the way Allen scolds the writer but rewards himself for enjoying fiction. Next time, try “Moby Dick.”
Trips Right said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Where is the legion of “Everybody does it” Sooners?
Jeff said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Wow,
I’m thinking Stephen Glass changed his name to
Thayer Evans. Apparently the lazy journalism of only quoting one person and not attempting to check that one person’s claims is “great journalism.”
Is the kid claiming this guy stole his term paper? Shady.
RansomStoddard said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Gooners will claim this is all okay and that any payments to JMac and his mommy are okay because “everyone does it”.
Drunken Rooster said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Is the AAS or Daily Texan investigating this sham?
JustAGuy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Jeff, The way I read it, the young man is saying that he doesn’t know how Thayer got the paper, but thinks a family member got it when Thayer visited the household.
I do have one question for Jamarkus. You wrote this paper for class, you bring it home, it shows up in the hands of Thayer, and you don’t ask either Evans or your family how he got it?
Jeff said:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Mr. Evans should have at a minimum asked Jamarkus if the story in his paper was real or not.
But, why let the search for truth ruin a good story.
JustAGuy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Jeff, I agree, but I had a thought about the paper. Jamarkus said he wrote the paper for an English class and that he “embellished” some of the details. I am sure that he is getting asked all types of questions about what is happening on his visits and many of those questions are shaped by what people see in movies and such about the recruitment of athletes.
Jamarkus decides to write what people want to hear in the paper which is great for class, but what if that paper was never meant to get home. What if Mom or Grandma were never supposed to see the paper and what if they did? Kid is put to the fire and he doesn’t exactly deny what he wrote. They pass the paper on to Evans and what was make believe becomes a perceived fact and now the kid is left exposed.
Might sound flimsy, but my wife and I have three teenagers at home and I would lie if I said our kids haven’t gotten themselves into something that got out of hand much faster and bigger than they expected.
Anybody know the name Tawana Brawley?
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Hi!
Slappy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
JustaGuy…Your story is just as plausible as Thayer Evans and mom being in cahoots to make a UT commitment impossible.
JustAGuy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Slappy,
Very possible, but Jamarkus sounds like someone that just got in over his head pretty damn fast.
Maybe he did know the paper was given to Evans, maybe his household knew the paper was wrong, but let me ask you this question?
You are a high school senior and you write what he wrote in this paper and you Mother and Grandmother see it and you don’t think some questions arise?
Bornahorn said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
As the father of a 17-year old HS senior (male), I am completely familiar with the possibility that, in discussions with friends/classmates, things get embellished (more than the size of genitalia or mammary glands).
Not that I did any of that in HS or on the 40 Acres.
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
I don’t think anyone thinks Evans had nefarious intentions or anything. But the guy printed a damned school paper as fact and did no checking up on it. Maybe he wanted to believe it, but even if he was totally impartial he still screwed the pooch.
JustAGuy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Chris, Completely agree on Evans and this does get into the grey area about the difference in writing an article for a newspaper and writing a blog under the umbrella of that same newspaper. Did you see the special Bob Costas did on athletes and the media. The most heated conversations involved the guy who wrote the blog and if I remember correctly the point of contention was accountability for what he wrote.
Slappy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
After everything I’ve seen (the tone of the piece, Thayer Evans’ prior work, Thayer Evans’ connection to the Darrell Scott article last year) I think he may have had nefarious intentions.
Taking it to the next level…Did he have any connection to anyone at OU in conspiring to do this…that would be the really damning thing.
William said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
it’s the New York Times – when have facts ever entered into the equation?
I feel sorry for the kid, his mother and grandmother are in way over their heads.
It’s a good thing that most people in Lufkin can’t read.
Slappy said:
December 28th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
It seems that they may have to suspend trading in Thayer Evans’ stock…it’s tanking.
http://www.newscred.com/author/show/name/thayer-evans
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Maybe Bill O’Rielly was right about the NYT all along.
Black Scholes said:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Herve’s bevy of talent is stunningly not attractive. Although points for the rack bottom right.
Trips Right said:
December 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
For Herve it’s all relative, no?
Of course, he did commit suicide.
Redfoot said:
December 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
I can’t believe the OU fans won’t go on there and give him some credits.
Groundhog Day said:
December 28th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Where are the OU fans? Ponderos? Since73? Boomer? This type of response is exactly what I expect on January 9th.
Groundhog Day said:
December 28th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
When are you going to give us the true scoop, Trips?
DougNTexas said:
December 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
How do you use the term paper and not ever ask J-Mac if it was all true and ask for specifics? How does J-Mac not even know the guy has the term paper until Christmas when the story is printed? Surely a good reporter would question J-Mac about the facts of the story!!!! Weird stuff by the NT Times free lance writer!
Black Scholes said:
December 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
That Chicago Sun Times link is to what looks to be a blog by some of their sportswriters; nothing official (are you paying attention, NYT? Need to keep these separated or you’ll destroy your brand).
My response FWIW in case it doesn’t get posted:
“I’m more than a little surprised a graduate of the University of Missouri journalism program would assume that the article was otherwise factually correct when the only piece of information to be confirmed was found to be inaccurate in a number of ways (read: basically in toto). That is a curious path of logic at best; most J-schools would train a student to think that if such a key story point is basically false, it should call in question the entire foundation for the article. We’ve seen time and time again that when a writer plays fast and loose with the facts it’s rarely – never? – just in one instance.
I have to conclude that you find it a ‘great piece of journalism and a compelling story’ largely because it’s most likely fictionalized. At best, it doesn’t pass the basic standards of journalism and should not have seen the imprint of the NY Times. At worst, it’s a hit piece by a glorified blogger with a decided agenda. Either way, I suspect this is not the last we’ll hear of the affair.
Regardless, Kevin, I’m disappointed that you found this so easy to believe. The amount of hyperbole alone should have set off warning bells. For a journalist, you were entirely too willing of an audience. I wonder if that might not reflect on some of your issues regarding the target of the piece.
Stay tuned and I’ll look for follow-ups here as the story unfolds. I think you’ll be surprised. And apparently disappointed.”
Texoz said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Thayer will never live down the fact that he juiced a high school English paper as his one and only source for his article. This went from a disappointing story of losing a recruit to OU, to a laughable tale of Fellini-esque proportions. I sense that more enjoyment is to come.
Karma is a bitch that will bite you in the ass and run over your dog.
Lapu-Lapu said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:14 am
You just got to love this stuff. I’d love to see that kid go to OU so that it will be a great motivation for our coaches. I can just imagine the comments thats going to come out of the broadcast booth during the game. This is a gift that will just keep on giving. Where are the sooners now?
Hook’Em
Groundhog Day said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Just watched JM’s interview from the AAA festivities. He seems like a smart, well spoken teenager. I actually feel sorry for him because it’s clear from his opening sentence that the decision to attend was made to please momma and granny. He says so himself. It also seems that he is not overly excited about his decision and that deep down he knows that this is not what HE wants.
Where are the Poopers and the Trolls we’ve been so happy to host over the last few weeks?
Brian Combs said:
December 29th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Let me get this straight… So, Thayer Evans actually didn’t talk to *either* side of the article?
EyesOfTX said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:31 am
What in the world happened to all the toothless, trailer-park-trash, sorry-bastard Sooner fans who were so anxious to post their thoughts on this story just 24 hours ago? Amazing how fast the dipshits head for the hills.
PatronSaint said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:46 am
Eyes: Be careful what you wish for.* I personally don’t miss trying to decode their lolspeak grammar-resistant posts.
*please don’t point out that I ended a sentence with a preposition while bagging on others for not being able to write.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Guess I should have checked out for the latest post, you guys were all over this. I had a helluva time getting back here. I snagged my best pair of jorts on some stripped copper wiring I was thieving to make myself a big batch of Ice for the MNC game on the 8th. Had to get to Wally world to get me a fresh pair of Wrangler cut offs, got a paternity case with cousin Rhonda this afternoon, got to look good with my freshly greased mullet. Congrats on the concession that the debaucherous party scene was embellished. Victory for the Horns! However, are you not a bit concerned that they are standing by the rest of the story? You know, the part about Horn boosters offering to take care of Miss Adams needs if JM went to Texas. Thats been my case in point since I jumped into the fray over here. Trips has claimed all along to have the dirt on OU from his inside sources for these under the table inducements. Yet to see any proof to this. JM and Adams claim quite the opposite. So who is right? Do your sources tell you if the NCAA is going to come in and get to the bottom of this mess? I guess since one facet of this story has been proved as false, the rest is just going to go away??? So in my mind, Trips article suggesting illegal activities by OU without proof is no different than Thayer’s article to you all on BC. Comment away.
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Why should we be concerned? They don’t seem like the most credible people, do they? The mom is one step above Baghdad Bob.
Groundhog Day said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:40 am
It’s an issue of credibility. If someone lies to you once are you going to believe them the next time? JM seems like a smart, good kid who was manipulated by his mother. It’s clear as day what went on here. Only people with inside info know what happened to sway momma, but it’s obvious the way UT was painted in the article is nothing but garbage. That family from Lufkin made a big mistake looking for handouts and then trashing other schools in public. Why not commit to the school of your choice and go about your way? The sad thing 6X is that this should be a very happy time in this kids life and he looks absolutely miserable in that interview. He has been played by momma and shipp.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:43 am
McFarland tells Rivals.com that he and his mother stand by the rest of the article and that the majority of the English paper was not embellished.
McFarland’s mother said she had nothing to lie about in the story.
Kashemeyia Adams, McFarland’s mother, said she was quoted correctly in her criticism of Texas’ recruitment of her son. Adams declined to correct or clarify any of her comments in the piece, standing by the comments.
“I don’t have anything to add to it,” Adams said. “We knew people wouldn’t be happy. The truth is the truth. I have no reason to lie. I have nothing to change (about the story).”
Again, just a portion of the story was stretched. Still no rebuttal to the rogue booster aspect.
To me that means it’s their word against UT’s. So I think it would be in UTs best interest to get the facts out there, don’t you? Something has got to give.
PatronSaint said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:47 am
I’m probably the only one that doesn’t think the Sooners did anything nefarious here.
I just think that the McFarlands were surrounded by a bunch of people that wanted Jamarkus to go to UT and resorted to some ridiculous defense mechanism when they decided that OU was the spot.
6x: do you believe that Coach February suddenly became a blowhard braggart?
Do you believe that “numerous inducements” were offered to get Jamarkus to go to UT, but only the one with the most tangential relationship to UT was worth mentioning in any detail?
The fact that Adams was able to perceive as “tacky” UTs acknowledgment of the difficult decision that McFarland was having to go through, and giving them space to make that decision should indicate enough that we aren’t dealing with someone who is a “just the facts” witness. Things are going to be spun OU’s way.
The only concrete thing that didn’t have Adams’ hand all over it in the article was just refuted by the very source of the claim. What else do you want?
WhoooTex said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:51 am
“ou know, the part about Horn boosters offering to take care of Miss Adams needs if JM went to Texas. ”
Yes, because we’ve been confident all along the whole thing is bullshit and now the first dominoes are falling like a house of cards– checkmate.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:56 am
hardly checkmate, I would call it spin to get it under the rug as fast as possible.
ulose said:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:57 am
My posts never had anything to do with Thayer’s article–once again, no surprise that said universities went to sleazy lengths to get a top recruit. Gee, that’s never been done before!! The thing that got my blood boiling as a college football fan is Trips making outlandish claims about OU with ZERO proof. At least Thayer knew there would be consequences, whether good or bad, and stepped up to the plate with something regardless. He put his neck on the line by writing SOMETHING–even if it’s a fairy tale, he gave us something to chew on. All Trips does is shovel out burnt orange garbage with no substance–he’s not even attempting to polish his turd, he’s just giving you a turd, and a hollow one at that. Where’s the beef Trips? Can’t wait to see your blog in the NYT about OU…Wait, they don’t publish blank paper.
PatronSaint said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Whoo, I had to look up what that quote was from because it is hilarious.
WhoooTex said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:21 am
I knew the Sooner wouldn’t get it but figured at least one Horn would. :)
Trips Right said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:31 am
ulose, wow. You’d rather be lied to as long it’s a complete lie, one with a introduction, a body and a conclusion? You can’t be this dense.
My post is what it is. My source told me that Adams asked what UT was selling. Texas then backed away from the recruitment and sent a letter to the McFarland household so all the parties were on the same page. That’s what happened.
Baghdad Bob said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:34 am
The comparison are lies! There is no similarities!
Baghdad Bob said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Applewhite lies!
I am a step above her.
She is nowhere near the steps.
And there are no steps, anyway.
Baghdad Bob said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Applewhite lies!
I am a step above her.
She is nowhere near the steps.
And there are no steps, anyway.
ulose said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Wow, well that just clears everything up–who’s your source, Groundhog Day? Trips, please…My source said that McFarland was seen with Mack coming off the elevator at the ZaZa on OU/TX weekend with a mink coat, iced up to the hilt, and white residue under his nose. Then Mack gave him a thick envelope for the cab ride and “his trouble.” See how ridiculous all this sounds? I can’t believe these Longhorn lemmings wait on baited breath for your every word–it’s like finding out the on-line pickup artist you’ve been subscribing to is 38 and still lives with his parents! Trips, you haven’t been crashing any funerals lately, have you? What a joke…
Church said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:56 am
I’m sick of this ou troll coming on this board. It’s very simple 6xiblowmyself. Where in the article or anywhere else has anyone said that the free loan or the party or any of the unsubstantiated claims in the NYT article were done by a booster with ties to UT? Nowhere!!! Go read the article again and again and try to read more facts into this. Call Thayer up and maybe have him put more polish on his ou blowpiece. It just isn’t there. I for one believe very little in this article. The guy took a Creative Writing paper that Jamarkus wrote and passed it off as facts. From the name of the course alone Thayer should have known to corroborate the paper. Oh wait, he definitely should have asked permission from the writer to print portions of the paper. Wait, Thayer didn’t do that. I am sure the quote of Mack Brown’s email was correct b/c I’m sure Mack Brown sends an email to the mom saying “JaMac wants Texas, and Mom wants OU.”
As far as discrediting what Mrs. Adams says. I think Jamarkus blowing up the Creative Writing piece was the easiest attempt at hopefully from their point of view diffusing the article. They hoped to do this so Mrs. Adams wouldn’t have to be asked the hard question about her quotes.
6x – I did enjoy the playing up of your Oklahoma lineage. I think that and the fact that you are so hopelessly hanging on to the article as something relevant are the most comical things about these posts.
Sorry to all for the long post, I thought someone needed to say this though.
mr. sunshine said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
“…he gave us something to chew on.”
Crappy journalism. Mule dick. Its all the same to the sooners, isn’t it?
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Mr. Church,
Amen brother, preach to the Lonhorn faithful. I think you’ve cleared this up for me. It is terrible injustice for this slanderous Longhorn hit piece to come out with no basic journalistic standards or integrity behind it. But it is perfectly fine for Trips to do EXACTLY the same in regards to OU (albeit not quite as “direct” as the NYT bomb) on this website. Time for Trips to check the sources of his source, any blogger with journalistuc integrity MUST BE HELD TO THIS STANDARD. Duplicity and hypocrisy at its finest.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am
journalistic to beat the grammar patrol.
Aggie Lurking said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Would it be too much to hope for that both parties are guilty of various recruiting violations?
Oh well it’s entertaining to watch from the outside.
intellectual type said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Insert random aggie comment enjoying not being the object of scrutiny concerning NCAA violations.
JustAnotherGuy said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Why do I get this feeling that before that this is over this story will read like a script for a Coen brother’s movie about college recruiting.
The only way it gets better for me is if Quanell X or Al Sharpston shows up at a press conference for Ms. Adams.
98 said:
December 29th, 2008 at 9:59 am
ulose, everyone here respects trips and his blog posts because up till now he has been all but right on all of his posts.He has always been a rationale author. No disrespect to barking carnival, but comparing it to the nytimes in terms of journalistic practices(like getting responses from accused parties) is stupid. i look at the barking carnival like “the daily show”(i know it seems a little cliche); they give you analysis with a comedic tilt.
And,he has no track record of doing hit pieces;thayer has.
J.R.69 said:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:03 am
This entire debacle is like wiping your ass with a wagon wheel–there’s no end to it.
Tim's Bleeding Vagina said:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:59 am
“To me that means it’s their word against UT’s. So I think it would be in UTs best interest to get the facts out there, don’t you? Something has got to give.”
how fucking dense can sooners be? ut cannot respond before signing day, OR IT IS A RECRUITING VIOLATION. i figured sooners would be quite familiar with that. mack cannot mention the name jamarku$ so long as he is a recruit.
South '06 said:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:36 am
“Insert random aggie comment enjoying not being the object of scrutiny concerning NCAA violations.”
Leave us out of this, we’ve got enough problems.
Black Scholes said:
December 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
6xBig12Champ: “I would call it spin to get it under the rug as fast as possible.”
Except by the unanimous reaction to this fable you know that’s not true. Texas fans want this sordid little tale dragged into the light and exposed; it won’t hold together and you know it. It’s the sooners that hope it goes away; your concern – and rightfully so – is that eventually someone in the press wakes up and realizes there is a trail worth following and it leads to Norman. Where a school just a few years removed from the last time their business procedures came under scrutiny is playing a very dangerous game.
ulose said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
98,
I understand and for one, enjoy The Daily Show. Most people realize it’s a farce, but I’m afraid a good chunk of Barking Carnival’s followers take it as gospel. And therein lies the problem–rumors have always and will always get started on blogs of this sort. Even if the intent is for entertainment purposes (which is not the case with Trips), plenty of people perusing junk like Barking Carnival take it as fact, especially those who share the same affiliations. And frankly, that’s how Trips is selling it–he’s sucked in the Branch Tripsidians hook, line, and sinker. First he drug OU under the bus by concocting a no-truth serum, mixing it in the koolaid, and watched in his masterbatorium while the rabid dogs drank it up. Then after conflicting stories surfaced and people were holding him to the mat, it took him 4 days to come up with “Adams asked what UT was selling and Texas backed away”?!! I don’t see OU anywhere in that equation–did he misunderstand his source because it’s loud in Chuck E Cheese? Or did he have his burnt orange earmuffs on? You said it best 98–Trips has been all but right up until now. Probably because he’s never been challenged by anyone–his underlings just wallow in his slop when he flings it at them. Thayer puts his information out for everyone to read, not hidden under a burnt orange blanket. Trips makes Thayer look like Edward R. Murrow!!
Spring Branch Horn said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
ulose – what a load of crap!!
Show Horn said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
6X—
There is a very easy way for Miss Adams to have credibility on her account of the illegal/NCAA infractions that she claims UT did…..release names, dates, times, and places.
If she refuses to do so publicaly, I hope UT subpoenas her and forces her under oath.
Miss Adams has libeled the univeristy and the univeristy and the NCAA deserves to know the facts so that they can react accordingly.
Bartoncreek said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I think it goes without saying that BC has much more credibility than the NYT. I can’t even imagine that is up for debate.
I consider the NYT to be an upscale NYPost. Instead of making stuff up about celebrities, the NYT generally sticks to making things up about governments, countries, politcal figures and causes and various other world issues. I think they are just broadening their horizon now and working major universities into the mix.
Capt. Insano said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Mr. McFarland…Get Ready…45-35…for the next 5 years…Enjoy…you’ve earned it!
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Show Horn,
Strangely enough, I actually agree with you. Enough with the sources and blogging innuedos. I 100% agree if she did in fact make up this entire story regarding the recruitment of her son, she should be punished.
6x
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
ahh the 45-35 has returned, beautiful. It must be akin to taking a drink of ice cold beer on a sultry Austin afternoon…
98 said:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
ulose, you clearly have a dog in this fight. please do not insult our intelligence any longer by pretending like you don’t. No one has challenged trips to date because all of what he has said has turned out to be true.
i never even suggested the daily show to be a farce. i think most times the show is much better than any other news show. yes they have liberal bias but they are candid about it. trips right has a texas bias and he is candid about it.
OU has not been ‘drug’(as you put it) into the story by trips it has been center stage from the beginning.
No one was holding him to the ‘mat’(other than the sooners) and he was clear from the beginning that he could give out only a certain amount of information because he needed to maintain the confidentiality of his source.
If you actually read the original post, you would realize,trips maintained that once Adams asked UT what they had to offer compared to what OU offered, Mack backed away.
Please stop acting juvenile with the name calling.
Groundhog Day said:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Here you go, 6X
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/army-check-in-jamarkus-mcfarland-42842
ulose said:
December 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
98,
You’re right–farce was the wrong word. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Daily Show–it’s entertaining, and most the time is more informative than the regular news, but we can both agree that it’s very slanted to the left. It’s spun in a way to cater to it’s demographic, just like Barking Carnival. Anyway, now that mostly everything’s in the open about the NYT story, can we get the full story about OU and the source? At least the Daily Show has newspaper clips, video evidence, and cited sources. Sorry about the aggressive approach, but somebody’s got to give this guy the Jack Nicholson treatment in A Few Good Men and maybe he’ll crack–or fess up that it was all hogwash. I hate to be lumped in with the UTards on this thread who spout off cuss words and threats, so I apologize.
Tim's Bleeding Vagina said:
December 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
“And therein lies the problem–rumors have always and will always get started on blogs of this sort.”
sort of like that texags “rumor” about big red auto? but we all know that was just some nonsense made up to make the angelic sooners look bad.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 29th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
sort of like that McFarland “rumor” about inducements by Texas boosters? but we all know that was just some nonsense made up to make the angelic longhorns look bad.
careful, where there is smoke, there’s typically fire…
Hippie Killer said:
December 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Hey 6XBIG12Champ!
I figured since our last go around on this subject, you wouldn’t be back for awhile.
Quick question…
How long do you think it will be before Jackie Shipp breaks up with McFarlands Mama? My guess is that her one shot at “True Love” will likely be out the window sometime after….February 5, 2009.
What do you think?
BTW, 45-35.
Colby said:
December 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
6xjackedoffachimp blew the Oakland Raiders. Just a rumor, but careful, where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
ousniffsware said:
December 29th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Bir Red Auto could have brought them down thats why they threw Bomar under the bus and hit the self destruct button and offered delf imposed penalties.
ousniffsware said:
December 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Big self
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
December 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I’ve seen the NYT “story.” I saw it posted on Yahoo and MSN the first day it came out, and I’ve seen the reponses to the story on Orangebloods (and love him or hate him, at least Katchum makes some good points in his reponse). What I haven’t seen is ESPN jump all over the supposed recruiting violations that are alleged in the story.
If, in fact, Texas was guilty of what has been implied, then it would be major news already. As an aggie friend of mine put it, the media would LOVE to bring down Texas. I haven’t seen one story on Yahoo, MSN, or ESPN about this point. I think that if there were some validty, we would have seen a follow-up story on it already.
Now, I haven’t seen everything out there since I’ve been at work all day, but I do keep tabs on news that pertains to Texas football. This “story” seems to be being fought out almost exclusively in the blogosphere. That in of itself is fishy to me.
I’m with the rest of the Texas fans that want to see every part of this story brought out into the light. I’m sure Mack does too. If some unnamed, unassocaited with UT person did try to offer that loan, Texas would be the first in line to correct the situation.
Redfoot said:
December 29th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
“How long do you think it will be before Jackie Shipp breaks up with McFarlands Mama? My guess is that her one shot at “True Love” will likely be out the window sometime after….February 5, 2009″
Agreed, after that he’ll go back to being the top to 6x’s bottom. Maybe that’s why he’s over here so grumpy all the time? Just a hunch.
Hmmm... said:
December 29th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
“I have no reason to lie.”
Plausible reasons she has to lie:
1. She wanted her son to go to OU (for whatever reason, dirty or not) and is surprised that there is an uproar. Now being criticized as overly inserting herself into her son’s decision, she needed a reason to justify keeping the UT coaches out of the house. So rather than blame her overbearing self, she blames the “other”.
2. She’s dirty as hell, the rumors of a letter from Coach Brown calling out the illicit behavior are true, and she needs to deflect.
3. She derives some sort of frisson from lying.
Now, she may not be lying. But if she is a liar, then of course she’ll say she has no reason to lie. “I have no reason to lie” is hardly the endgame of a Perry Mason episode.
U.S. News and World Report said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
We would only point out here that one could read a University of Oklahoma blog for a long time without encountering the word “frisson” or, in fact, the anthropological/psychoanalytic concept of the ‘other’ used in a posting.
Thank you and have a nice evening.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Although it’s totally unrelated to the JeMarkus thing, I would like to answer 6times re: 45-35.
You’re damn right it’s nice. It’s nice to know that no matter how the rest of this season turns out the better football team (and really the better program at this point) lies here in Austin, Texas.
As I’ve said before, your hype machine may have fooled enough pollsters to get you into the game in Miami, but anyone who really understands college football knows that the better team will be playing in Arizona. Congrats though on your undeserving NC game appearance and Big XII title. I look forward to Stoops’ nightmare scenario unfolding before us in the coming weeks. We’ll beat Ohio State (hopefully by a good margin), and ou will lose their fifth straight BCS game. Then the questions surronding these programs, Should UT have gone?, Can Stoops really not win a big game?, won’t just be coming from Big XII territory, but from everywhere around the country. Face it, the perception around both of these teams and both of these coaches are changing. After we beat you next year (making it four out of the last five) all the pundits will be asking if Brown has Stoops’ number.
See that’s why it doesn’t really bug me when I see all of you sooners on here, because I know why you’re here. You’re guilt ridden because you know you’re in a game you don’t belong, one in which you don’t deserve to be there. You’re guilty because there’s a part of you that know the truth, that if we played you ten times we’d beat you seven or eight. And you’re scared. You’re scared that you’re going to get blown out on a national stage AGAIN. You’re scared that Bobby’s lost whatever sort of magic he once had. You’re scared because you know that the strategic advantage was the only advantage Stoopsie had over Brown and now Muschamp has shifted even that. You’re scared because Mack has won the big one, has gotten even better at recruiting than he was in past, and that ou will never match our facilities. You’re falling further and further behind your hated rival and you can sense it. So I don’t blame you for coming here. I might pity you, perhaps even for reasons that go beyond having to live in Oklahoma; but I don’t blame you. Why not bask in what limited glory you have left?
Oh and congrats on winning momma’s boy. The way things are shaping up you two seem made for each other.
TaylorTRoom said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
“I look forward to Stoops’ nightmare scenario unfolding before us in the coming weeks. We’ll beat Ohio State (hopefully by a good margin), and ou will lose their fifth straight BCS game. Then the questions surronding these programs, Should UT have gone?, Can Stoops really not win a big game?”
Those won’t be questions. If Texas wins, and OU loses, everybody will be in agreement that the BCS got it wrong. Just like how everybody will agree the BCS got it right if Texas loses and OU wins.
So, yes, if Texas wins and OU loses, Stoops will have the rep of Woody Hayes circa 1976- the guy that once seemed to be the best coach in the country who can’t ever seem to put it all together again no matter how much talent he gathers. The humorless screamer who talks a tough game, but keeps coming up short in the big ones. Yep, Bob Stoops needs this one bad.
Drunken Rooster said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
DMN has comments from Mack regarding NYT smear job, I mean article. Also on BON Blog.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 29th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
I know he’d never admit to it TaylorTRoom, but I think there’s a part of Bob that’s absolutely terrified at the proposition he’s facing. I think Stoops knows that he’s not just losing battles to Mack Brown, but is in fact losing the war. He knows that the average college football might view him as a better coach than Brown, but with another BCS loss, coupled with another UT BCS win, even that will change. The sooners’ coaching staff I think understands now it isn’t just that Mack’s getting better athletes, it’s the kind of athlete he’s getting. Six or seven years ago, Sergio Kindle and Brian Orakpo would have wound up on the other sideline. Muschamp is only going to strengthen our position.
Looking at from this side of things, should Bradford leave, and I don’t think he will, but should he, now would be the best time for Stoops to make the jump to the NFL. We’re poised to make a big time run again next year, whereas ou is going to be reloading. Unless he likes getting his face shoved in the dirt repeatedly, Stoops should take the bait and get out while he can.
TaylorTRoom said:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I don’t think the NFL is an option for Stoops anymore. If an NFL team wanted a college coach, why wouldn’t they go for Meyer?
6xBig12Champ said:
December 30th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Its good that the vitriol got pumping again yesterday. I really only have 2 comments to the plethora of burnt orange rhetoric thrown my way.
“You’re guilty because there’s a part of you that know the truth, that if we played you ten times we’d beat you seven or eight. And you’re scared.”
No, not really. I am bit surprised that you even gave OU 2-3 victories there. In actuality I’m really confident with the way the both teams were playing at the end of the season, OU wins by double digits if the gam was replayed. I will admit it is an opinion of mine, but one also shared by the pollsters and computers since we were the team selected to play in the MNC. Texas was not chosen.
Also there were several inferrences that somehow OU is scared that Texas is about to become the reigning superpower of college football, Stoops should leave for the NFL and wets his bed at the though of AUSTIN, TEXAS, Mack Brown has ascended to deific heights beyond that of mere mortals. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. I wouldn’t be surprised if BC regulars met up every Saturday night and lathered each other in Bevo fecal matter as you danced and chant around giant effigies of Muschamp and Brown. All your assertions of Sooner doomsday is far from the truth and really laughable at best. I do commend Texas for stepping up and making the series competitive once again. I am sane enough to know and actually write that the OU/UT rivalry will ebb and flow over the years. UT will win a few, OU will win a few and really the games will be decided with a great players (VY) and a losing an important ones (Ryan Reynolds). But go ahead and continue to believe that somehow UT is going to rip off 8 straight over OU and win 7 of 8 BCS bowls. I’ll inform Bob and the staff of the imminent domination of the Longhorns and we’ll call it a day.
Capt. Insano said:
December 30th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Hey 6XBig12Champ!
When do you think Jackie Shipp will break up the mother? I say he dumps her ass on February 5, 2009. When do you think it will be? Do you think he bangs her throughout the off-season or does he stop jumping on grenades for the team as soon as his Letter of intent has been signed?
I say as soon as that letter has been faxed in. Shipp is gonna fax a “Dear John” letter to McFarland’s Mama and ending her chance at “true love” and the time she spent banging a college football coach.
Capt. Insano said:
December 30th, 2008 at 8:59 am
BTW, is nobody else concerned that some asshole from the NYT is publishing a paper from somebody in High School without permission.
Maybe one of you lawyer types can help me out. Don’t you have to have permission to publish somebody else’s writing?
SINCE73 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 9:47 am
OU has won 3 Big XII Championships in a row and has landed more of the elite 5***** players in Texas the past few year than Texas yet we are scared?! Lol!
Get back to me when you can win your division.
You have 1 more Conference Championship than Baylor. Yeah, you guys are good.
Good at watching own this league, that is.
Eric said:
December 30th, 2008 at 9:53 am
As an unbiased Mizzou fan who’s team got its ass handed to it by both OU and Texas, I have to say that OU fans have no room to talk shit when Texas has the exact same number of losses as the Sooners and a head to head victory this season. The only reason you were in the Big XII championship in the first place is a flawed BCS system that no one likes and the Big XII inexplicably used as a tie breaker.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Since73, I gather then that since Mack is 3-1 versus Stoopes and he does have the same number of national titles despite OU have more 5 star talent according to you then the only explanation is Bob is leaving off talent versus the the rest of the Big 12 and Mack and his staff are out coaching and out working the Sooners in head to head games.
Hmmm…where have I heard that before?
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:05 am
In fact 73, in over the last 5 years two guys with lesser talent and have gotten their asses fired have a better record versus Mack than Bob and all his talent. Guess now that Prince and Fran are gone Bob will have to carry his own water.
SINCE73 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am
What do you have to show for that? A t-shirt? We’re your Super Bowl. Of course you get up for us only to crap the bed afterwards.
Meanwhile….OU keeps on winning those beautiful trophies.
Oh, btw: you’re still behind head to head vs Stoops.
Boomer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:15 am
In what is Mack 3-1 vs Stoops? Are you looking at the microcosm of the last 4 years? or chance games of shuffleboard at the last 4 big 12 meetings? In the last 10 years (a more representative sample) Mack has a losing recored against Stoops at 4-6 – just an fyi.
98 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am
this was our rebuilding year. the only impact players would be orakpo and miller and to a lesser extent quan. you have to replace most of your o-line, receivers and might be the 2nd best qb in the big 12, some of your DT’s and ends. We have a better d- coordinator. we have arguably the best qb in the country coming in this year. Our offensive scheme’s success does not need linemen to hold And you think we will not dominate you for the foreseeable future.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am
They give trophies for losing to Boise and WVU? They give trophies for getting beat in 4 consecutive BCS bowls?
Yes 73, you are both right in that Mack is 4-6 versus Bob and Mack has made significant changes in his staff and the attitude around the program. The result is that in the past four years Mack has reversed the trend versus OU and gone 4-0 in the last 4 bowl games.
You are full of shit 73 if you don’t think Stoopes and OU don’t look as much to that game in Dallas as Mack and his staff. Both teams bring it as hard as they can and Mack has gotten the better of Bob 3 of the last 4 times. Hell, this year playing their second best defensive end at tackle, a running back who wouldn’t run over any one at defensive end, a midget at cornerback , and two freshmen at safety Texas somehow stopped the greatest offense in the history of college football.
No Horn fan is happy at the lack of Conference titles, but I don’t think Mack is as well and based upon what I have seen change in this program in the past three seasons I am happy to see the direction things are going.
Enjoy another BCS prison rape and remember that Barry and Bud built their reps on cheating, probation, and multiple national titles. Good to see Bob is keeping the tradition alive in 2 areas.
Boomer, shut the fuck up with your shuffleboard comment. Shit wasn’t even close to witty. Why is 10 years more representative than 5? None of those players are around and if you believe the Texas program now is the same as in the early 2000’s I have some CMO’s and GM bonds I would like to sell you.
Tim's Bleeding Vagina said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am
i’m glad since73 is such a unique user name so that you can track his stupidity from forum to forum.
his insecurity is palpable as we approach yet another sooner choke in a bowl game.
Gary Pinkel said:
December 30th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Guy -
I’ll pay par for those bonds. Please send me a confirm and 5 wins next year.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 30th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Here’s something to pass your time…
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~trj/comparing_ou_ut.html
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~trj/ou_ut_comments.html
Boomer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 11:11 am
ok just a guy? – a 5 year sample then would be Mack 3 Stoops 2 because 3+2 is 5. Cool?
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Glad to see they are teaching higher levels of math in Oklahoma. Who said “Leave No Child Behind” was a failed program?
Capt. Insano said:
December 30th, 2008 at 11:17 am
SINCE73-
The last thread you posted on regarding the McFarland recruitment you mentioned that “Assholes Heal”. I just wanted to let you know that your statement made me laugh.
BTW, since the coward 6Xdicksinthemouth refuses to answer my question, we’ll see if you have the scrot to answer:
How long do you think it will be before Jackie Shipp breaks up with McFarlands Mama? Will it be right after the Letter of Intent is faxed in? or will it be a little deeper in the off-season?
Let me know what you think.
Also…45-35…all year…this will never change…45-35.
ulose said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Ahhhhh, yes–the UTards have resurfaced once again. It seems foul language and idiotic comments are your mating calls. I know you guys haven’t even thought of this, but what if TEXAS LOSES TO OHIO ST? Then what? Will you be where the Sooners can find you on January 6th? You think Ohio St might be tired of hearing everyone already crown Texas? Tressel’s got just as much to lose as Stoops…that would be classic!! I hope the coaching staff is as blind as you guys–keep talking up your flawless team. Last time I checked, you’ve got a game to play too.
That would be great or the Sooners if you guys have the best QB recruit coming in–maybe his daddy will convince Mack to start him over the QB who should be playing. Any coach who plays Chris Simms over Major Applewhite for 3 years is capable of any blunder or coaching snafu at any given moment. Good luck in a bowl game that actually counts, and better luck next year turning the tide by not winning another Big 12 Championship!! That should put Stoops in his place…
6xBig12Champ said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
How long do you think it will be before Jackie Shipp breaks up with McFarlands Mama? Will it be right after the Letter of Intent is faxed in? or will it be a little deeper in the off-season?
Boy, you sure are living up to your moniker. I really haven’t felt the need to respond to this because it is pure nonsense. But, as an aside, if Coach Shipp can lay the wood to a woman and get her to change her school allegiance, I would have to say job well done.
98 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
ulose, admit your an OU fan. i would understand why you would be embarrassed to admit it in public, but your just another sooner on the internet.
The Wood Shed said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Boomer,
Do you think 103 years would be a more representative sample since 10 is so much more representative than 5?
Texas leads the overall series 58–40–5
Here is another excellent point for the OU faithful:
The University of Texas has been placed on probation by the NCAA 3 times in the history of the program, no post-season bans and no other infractions resulting from probationary stay.
The University of Oklahoma (never quite certain how UO turns into OU unless there was some sort of inbred fueled dislexia going on even at the beginning) has been placed on probation 6 times since 1956 for a total of 9 years (the most recent in 2007 which involved vacating an entire season (2005)), 4 years of television bans and 3 years of post-season bans.
Can you really come on here and play innocent?
6xBig12Champ,
I hope you do not have a single mother that can be preyed upon by someone with only his own interests at heart. Karma is a cruel bed partner.
And look, I got through that whole explanation with no profanity.
Hippie Killer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
6xbigdickstothemouth- “But, as an aside, if Coach Shipp can lay the wood to a woman and get her to change her school allegiance, I would have to say job well done.”
Well, I suppose that would be fine…if she were the one going to the school.
But, now this idiot has to go to a school that totally sucks for the next 5 years, so that his mother can have a boyfriend for another couple of weeks?! I feel sorry for YOUR kids sooner.
ulose said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Why would I be embarrassed to admit being a fan of a team who has 7 National Championships and is playing for its 8th? What do you care 98? Is it really eating you up inside that much? I told you–I’m not a fan of either. I just can’t believe the ignorance and arrogance of a fanbase who thinks they run a squeaky clean program–how self-righteous is that?!! Coming from the state that produced GW, you would think maybe a lesson was learned and narrow-mindedness would’ve left the building a long time ago. Everything is bigger in Texas, especially the fantasies–classic.
You know what–let’s put an end to all of this. What is Trips waiting for?!! THE TIME IS NOW…
intellectual type said:
December 30th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I think I figured it out, ulose is steven! It all makes sense now.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Hmmmm….I do believe George W. was born in the North and someone as smart as you ulose would surely know that the Governor’s office for the state of Texas is a very weak position. The true power in the state is held by the Lt. Governor so the joke would not be on the state of Texas, but the rest of the country that actually believed George W did much besides photo ops while in office. Hmmmm…care to help us again with our governor?
The General said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
GWB was born in the People’s Republic of Massachussetts, and his family is from New England (Maine and Connecticut mainly).
Hippie Killer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Asshole. George W. Bush is not a Texan. Dumbass Motherfucker.
PS- 45-35 Sooner Bitches.
98 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
you freakin tool- GW is not from texas; he is from Connecticut. he was and is a carpet bagger.
there are plenty of reasons to be embarrassed to be a fan of OU. cheating, level of stupidity of fan base, to be associated with a school with the academic standard of a community college, number of times on probation, jorts, trailer trash..
Our respect for you cant go any lower even if you admit to being an OU fan.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Wait, next you guys will try to tell us that GWB applied to UT law school and was rejected only to end up getting his MBA at an elitist East Coast University. When will the Burnt Orange lies and denial of the truth stop? We all know ulose told us GWB is from Texas and since he has no dog in the fight here wouldn’t an impartial person know before speaking?
ulose said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I’m not talking about “producing” like on this earth you freakin’ bafoons–I’m talking about into the political psyche and public forum. Texas saddled the world with the worst president in history–however you want to slice it. He claims Texas and has a southern accent–not to mention Crawford, now he’s moving to Dallas. If it walks like a Longhorn, talks like a Longhorn, and stinks like a Longhorn, it’s a Longhorn!! Maybe Texas is responsible for warping his mind–I wonder if he had any idea Canseco was juicing when he was in the Rangers’ front office? There’s no way–everything in Texas is clean!! By the way, Texas has more hillbillies and trailer parks per capita than Oklahoma could ever fathom–quit calling the kettle black.
Hippie Killer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
“We all know ulose told us GWB is from Texas and since he has no dog in the fight here wouldn’t an impartial person know before speaking?”
sooner logic makes me laugh!
JustAGirl- It is my duty to remind you this….45-35. Sweet.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Who is calling who names now? Again, GW had little political power while he was governor and the last time I check Texas only has 26 electoral votes so it isn’t possible for Texas to have “saddled” the world with the worst president in history. That would be on the hands of a great number other states, but let’s not have small matters like details get in the way.
Additionally, you sure seem to know a great deal about the number of trailer parks in Oklahoma and I find it funny that you mention hillbillies. I believe the proper nomenclature would be rednecks and we are damn proud of it. Funny thing is that this backyard state somehow is home to space program, pioneers in heart surgery, one of the world’s leaders for cancer research, second largest number of live theaters in the US, have a few authors, saddled the US Congress with Barbara Jordan, have a university that is among the leaders in cold fusion research, and a few other things. Guess the only thing for me to say is “FUCK OFF”.
98 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
He got all his power from his ties to the north east.you fools were dumb enough to vote him in. Travis county, where UT is located, voted against Bush. You fools accuse of us being liberal and now you accuse of putting bush in the white house. Most importantly he never was a longhorn; hence it is not relevant to the conversation. Longhorns are not associated with trailer parks and hillbillies;OU is.
i give up. this moron is incorrigible.
ulose said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
However you want to candy-coat it JustAGuy–how about Texas is responsible for cultivating and nurturing the biggest redneck (who calls Texas home) and worst president the world has ever seen? GW is a Texan, period. I’m sorry, but he’s one of the mighty contributions Texas will forever be remembered for–I’m afraid second number of live theaters and Barbara Jordan are footnotes after the mental midget Texan decided to ruin the country. But I’m proud of you–you finally admitted that jorts and mullets run a’plenty in Texas. And with class I might add…
If you’re not familiar with the term cognitive dissonance, look it up–it’s what GW and Longhorns struggle with every day. Clean as a whistle I tell ya!!
6xBig12Champ said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
woodshed and hippie,
It was an inane assertation on the same level as Insano’s ridiculous idea that coach Shipp is romantically tied to Adams to get her son to switch to OU. Nothing more. I didn’t figure anyone was giving credence to that BS so I gave a BS response.
98,
“to be associated with a school with the academic standard of a community college”
“Longhorns are not associated with trailer parks and hillbillies;OU is.”
Do you honestly believe this? If so, your ignorance has reached levels I previously thought unattainable by even Longhorn standards.
JustAGuy said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
ulose you fucking moron. Any good Texan knows that only a carpet bagging piece of white trash scum will wear jorts and a mullet. A #2 haircut is the unofficial haircut of the Texas redneck and such a severe breach only confirms how little you truly know about Texas. What next, beans in your chili and then serve it over pasta? \
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
It’s funny that’d you’d say that you’d beat us by double digits 6times because that’s the same shit I heard before the game was played way back in October. Like I said before your team might have fooled the dumbass pollsters but you don’t fool us one bit. You’re a great offense, a mediocre defense, and crappy special teams. You’re team is good at punching teams in the mouth and running them over at the first sign of weakness. Your team also fades like a bunch of pussies when the team they’re playing punches them back. We’re a better team than you. That’s why we DID beat you by double digits on a neutral field.
You know how I can tell you’re scared 6times? I don’t go on ou boards. I don’t have anything to say to the sooners on their site because I can just let the results on the field speak for themselves. And I don’t have to feel guilty about anything.
Congrats in advace though on embarassing youself again in another bcs game.
intellectual type said:
December 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
He’s got a point. He’s not trolling on OU boards…maybe you should get a job or something? You know, be a part of mainstream society and earn wages, pay taxes, etc. If you do have a job, then they are paying you too much for what little work you are doing considering the amount of time you spend commenting on here.
Hippie Killer said:
December 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
“I believe the proper nomenclature would be rednecks and we are damn proud of it.”
- I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE WEAR THEIR IGNORANCE AS A BADGE OF HONOR.
6xBig12Champ-
It’s gonna be sweet when he breaks up with her ass and she realizes she trashed her home state and will never be able to return or make a living in Texas. The McFarlands have destroyed their future in Texas. I hope they enjoy their new home state!
Boy, I really hope little McFarland doesn’t cry when his new daddy drops him on his ass in a month, just like his old daddy! Tee-Hee!
On the way to Oklahoma, she will see signs that read, 45-35 up and down I-35.
As a reminder to all Soooner Homos on this Texas message board: 45-35.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
FMA,
As I stated, it is my opinion that OU would beat Texas by double digits if they played TODAY. Its cool you can hang your hat on the game in October, spout 45-35 ad nauseum, neutral field, et al. I’ve never stated anything to the opposite to take away from that and it really doesn’t bother me at all. They bounces went UT’s way that day, but I woke up the next day to realize the season was not over. So go ahead and keep self medicating. I really doubt it is on the minds of many Sooners as they make their way to SoBe.
Your claim that I post here because I am scared is also comical. Really the main reason I am here is was to smoke out the “truth” from Trips regarding the inducements offered by OU. When he failed to produce anything beyond the largess of blogging ghost stories and typically ill-informed rhetoric, I thought I would hang around and really digest what it means to be Longhorn. So far you all appear to be a literate and educated bunch, but most times it is hard to see around the hyper-inflated self-worth, overbearing ignorance, stereotyping as a defense mechanism, and my shit don’t stink pompous attitude that is obviously intrisic to growing up a Texan. Must be cool to be you.
98 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
6x –
you would not get UT without being on the 40 acres. some of the best professors. diverse student population.the best research facilities.
the self worth comes from the pride that being at UT and living on the 40 acres is a joy few universities can match; definitely not a third rate university in the state of Oklahoma.
SINCE73 said:
December 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Old hippie is obviously not a person of power in Texas because I know plenty of people who played at OU that are from Texas that I bet could write a check for you. Show me one good example of a person who went to OU from Texas yet cannot get a job in Texas and ill wire you your month wages.
Mack tried it use that on Macfarland ans Stoops shot his ass down. Its petty. It shows fear. It shows the inability to compete against a known power.
That’s why we are about to double you in NC’s.
Just like we do in all other player category.
Look it up, does Texas have anything over OU except for scenery smack and Duke like requirements? Lol.
Mmmkkkk…
Face it, OU owns this league just like we did in the Big 8 and Texas people thought it would be different but guess what, you all are still watching OU own whatever league we decide to participate in.
If I were you I would join like the Mountain League or something. Winning Championships is just not your style in this league.
Colby said:
December 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
since73:
At least three of ou’s championships are illegitimate, ie, ou cheated to win them. it’s common knowledge that ou populated its team with crooks, rapists, drug dealers and murderers to win during the switzer era, and in doing so stained its honor. but keep on telling yourself whatever you need in order to validate however it is you live and whatever it is you live for, buddy. i’m not here to disabuse to the point of suicide. your favorite football team’s clearly all you have in this life.
ponderos said:
December 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
murderers? really?
6xBig12Champs said:
December 30th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
98,
Thanks for fulfilling the personification.
6x
Truth Squad said:
December 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
SINCE73: “Face it, OU owns this league just like we did in the Big 8 ”
MVIAA/Big Eight Championships (Football):
[outright/total]
Nebraska: 30/41
Oklahoma: 26/33
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 30th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
One other thing we have going for us: Series record. Oh and that little matter of beating you and being a better football team than you this year.
6Times – I’m curious as to why you think the outcome would be any different. Did you guys suddenly find a defense since your last game? Did Mike quit Arizona and come back to shore up that defense of yours? Or is it that you’re more confident that the offense that struggled against Texas in the 2nd half of our game would fair better, given that our defense has improved every game under Muschamp?
ulose said:
December 30th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Colby,
If you want to talk about the illegal goings on of a team, you need to look no further. How many players at UT have been arrested in the last few years?
Henry Melton
Sergio Kindle
Andre Jones
Robert Joseph
Tyrell Gatewood
James Henry
Ramonce Taylor
Tarell Brown
Mack’s crew had upwards of 10 arrests following the championship up to this point. Several more were cited or charged but not arrested–so is THIS how you run a clean program? Book’Em Horns wasn’t just a clever name given by Sooners, it was uttered in Austin every other day last year!!
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
ulose Do you want to compare UT’s overall record to Texas Tech’s? I ask because it’s becoming more and more clear that you’re a closet Raider fan.
Capt. Insano said:
December 31st, 2008 at 8:23 am
45-35
TaylorTRoom said:
December 31st, 2008 at 11:28 am
6XB12champs wrote: “I am sane enough to know and actually write that the OU/UT rivalry will ebb and flow over the years. UT will win a few, OU will win a few and really the games will be decided with a great players (VY) and a losing an important ones (Ryan Reynolds).”
Look, can you can the Ryan Reynolds injury excuse nonsense. I know that’s what Stoops hung his hat on, but injuries are part of the game. UT had to play without two key offensive talents in that game- Blaine Irby (our only pass catching TE), and Fozzy Whitaker (our only speed back). You had Reynolds for over half the game, and we didn’t have them for any of the game.
I can edit comments, and when I see a Sooner mention Reynolds’ loss again, I’m revising it to have the poster acknowledge that Texas’ dominance would have been greater with Irby or Whitaker.
happyfeet said:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I want to masturbate to this pic. Does that make me a sick individual?
Facebook User said:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
The dwarf or the guy from The Wire?
NateHeupel said:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Taylor, UT averaged 4 yards per play with Reynolds in, and 8 yards per play after he was gone. Obviously, his loss was a determinative factor. But was it the real cause? READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY!!!
This has less to do with Reynolds, and everything to do with a failure of the OU coaching staff to have an adequate backup ready for a guy working on experimental bionic knees. Nic Harris was the starting MLB against KU for Christ’s sake. Both Mike Balogun and Austin Box filled in extremely well for Reynolds as the season went on, but neither was prepared to take over in the biggest conference game of the season. Why?
No offense, but Blaine Irby sure as shit isn’t a Mackey Award candidate. Nor was he ever going to be. He’d be the third best TE on OU’s roster behind Gresham by a long shot and probably even behind Eldridge (who is a far superior blocking surface). His injury was the best thing that happened to the Texas offense. It forced UT to get creative with a 4 WR set that made Venables melt the fuck down.
Fozzy Whitaker wouldn’t have done shit as a speed back, because he’s frankly not that fast. Percy Harvin, he ain’t.
Taylor, Texas didn’t dominate a damn thing. You gave up almost 400 yards passing and 5 TD’s to Sam Bradford. That’s domination, but not by Texas.
The difference was coaching and special teams. Muschamp could’ve lost any elite player including Orakpo or Kindle, and I guarantee he has a backup ready to go right then and there. It took Venables 4 weeks to get someone in place for Reynolds.
As for special teams, consider two things.
1) UT got 16 points off of special teams play. Three FGs, and a KR TD.
2) UT’s punter averaged 46.5 yards per punt. OU’s punter averaged about 34 yards per punt.
That game was lost for OU by the OU defensive coaching staff. UT took advantage well, and deserved to win.
NateHeupel said:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
My point about special teams toward the end goes back to superior coaching on the UT sideline before and during the game. UT did all the little things right, and OU couldn’t trust its kicker to make a FG from more than 25 yards out with any reliability. Nor could OU trust its kick coverage team to cover for a kicker who put no hang time and no distance on kicks against anyone.
Facebook User said:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
This is the H.G. Wells thread. And is mostly about Jamarkus McFarland and his lack of appreciation of Sapphic desire.
TaylorTRoom said:
July 14th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Nate, I have to admit that I am defeated by your argument that:
1. I am wrong because…
2. The OU coaches are dumbasses.
I have nothing in response.