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Posted by Trips Right on December 19th, 2008 under Football, Recruiting
I’ve got a source that’s pretty close to the athletic program. He was able to break the Muschamp Jimbo Fisher deal days before any of the pay sites or insiders had the info. so I trust him implicitly. He’s given me the blessing to post the info because it’s already out there in various forms, direct and innuendo, appearing on many different boards and in different circles.
First and foremost, Jarmarkus is a great player, a great student, and overall just a great kid.
Everything I’ve heard about the young man both public and private has been very positive. The problem is program(s) have offered his family extra benefits and inducements that go beyond the standard benefits that a typical student athlete enjoys. These offers of inducements were communicated to Mack Brown and Staff by McFarland’s family. That in no way shape or form means that McFarland’s family asked for extra benefits or inducements – it just means the subject was broached with the staff.
Upon hearing about the situation our staff chose to take a step back from the recruitment and formally document JM’s recruitment thus far in an effort to get all parties involved onto the same page with respect to how The University of Texas conducts recruiting matters. This step likely was one of the factors that made any in-home visit by Texas difficult at this time.
The documentation also serves to place other parties on notice that Texas is aware of the recruiting shenanigans and will not look the other way going forward. If escalation is needed, the documentation will be provided to parties of interest and not necessarily just the NCAA gumshoes. I was told the JM example, as well as others, could be provided to the Conference powers-that-be to effect change of some sort.
I was also told that Muschamp’s familiarity with the shady side of recruiting in the SEC is a big driver behind the new strategy that makes sure “everyone” is on the same page. With so much at stake looking the other way will no longer cut it when it comes to the blatant disregard for the rules shown by other programs. Think Spurrier, think Fullmer, and think Tuberville and the strategies they would implement to draw attention to competitors in an effort to dissuade these schoools from out and out cheating. Not to say these coaching examples are squeaky clean, but as my source couched it, “SEC coaches are used to hand-to-hand recruiting combat.”
There are other rumors out there regarding the outlaw program involved here but they come from different sources and I’m not at liberty to discuss them.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Trips, good info there. Those types of rumors have been swirling around for the last few weeks, and have gotten some mileage within the Texas internet community. I (and many others) found it quite questionable that certain members of JM’s family, once thought to be HUGE Texas leans, were now being actively influenced by other coaches clamoring for JM’s John Hancock on signing day. Like you said, everything that I’ve heard about JM is all positive – a good kid with great grades and a bright future. But, money talks for many, and he may very well be influenced by what’s going on under the table. Also, look no further than the 2010 recruitment of Lache Seastrunk for a reprise of this very same misadventure…
Hippie Killer said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I say let him go.
Calvin Howell and DJ are gonna be damn good for us.
If McFarland signs with OU, I’m not gonna lose any sleep. How is Granger working out for the sooners?
Last time we had a recruit trying to get extra benefits, he signed with Colorado, turns out to be a shitty college football player and turns out he’s a pussy and his coaches think so too! Mom’s got a nice bank job though.
I just get a bad feeling from guys like McFarland and Kirkpatrick who tend to drag these things out and milk them for what they are worth. Mercenaries.
If you need extra incentive to come play football at Texas, then we don’t need any incentive to recruit your ass. And Muschamp, Giles, Akina or Tolleson shouldn’t have to bang your mom, for you to want to play ball and get an education here.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I can’t tell whose sarcasm meter is malfing here, but one is for certain…
Hippie Killer said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Trips Right- Considering we are speculating on rumors given to you by an unnamed source who is “pretty close” to the program.
One would think you could give us some information as to what “program(s) have offered his family extra benefits and inducements that go beyond the standard benefits that a typical student athlete enjoys.”
You know, sort of be a little more specific. Is it a job with Big Red Auto? Suitcase with cash? Is it possible you could be a little more vague too?
Basically your post is saying “Things are going on that shouldn’t be” and that is it.
Well, you present yourself as somebody who knows infomration we don’t and if you are going to do so, I think you should fill us in dude.
I’m not sure what you are afraid of? Journalistic Integrity? With all due respect…you are a blogger, so you have no journalistic integrity to lose and you aren’t naming your sources, so why would you be afraid to go into a little more detail?
Basically, you are giving us no information, but you did get me to read your article.
I’m not trying to hijack this thread. I’m not trying to trash you, just trying to understand why you are giving us information without actually giving us information.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
I’m kinda iffy on possibly losing JM, honestly. From some first-hand observation (courtesy of members at the Shag), McFarland has had a fairly mediocre senior campaign and hasn’t dominated like a true 5-star should. I’m sure that teams game-planned for him, but it’s not like he’s a D-End that you can just run opposite from all game. Couple that with DJ from Arkansas looking like a full-on beast already physically, and we many not be all the worse off for not playing dirty like the other recruiters in this scenario. Still, I’d love to have this kid on the 40, all things even.
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
“There are other rumors out there regarding the outlaw program involved here”
Let’s see, he has visited LSU, OU and USC. Not exactly a list of the paragons of recruiting virtue, but if I had to rank them each on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being Jackie Sherrill holding a fed ex envelope and 1 being squeaky clean, I’d say
LSU-9.95
OU-9
USC-8.5
Of course, since we are talking about giving it to the conference powers that be, I’d have to guess that means our conference, so it looks like Big Red is back in business.
By the way, nice use of the term “malfing” on a thread talking about a mom. Well done.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Hippie, it probably has to do with the fact that very few people may be privy to this specific info, and it’d be easy to narrow down who leaked on the inside should anything more specific be said. Call me a sucker, but I’ll take Trips’ word on this, details or no. I’m pretty certain that we know who the accused party is, and we are all familiar with their methods…
Facebook User said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Hippie – Quit being a douche or we’ll boot you off this faux blog journal. We have that kind of power and may one day attend Journalism school.
The point of Trips’ post has more to do with Muschamp and Texas than JM.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
“By the way, nice use of the term “malfing” on a thread talking about a mom. Well done.”
Eh, malfing, milfing…”toe-may-toe”, “toe-mah-toe”, Dr. Freud.
SlickStreet said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Good for our staff for getting tired of putting up with that fucking shit.
“But, money talks for many, and he may very well be influenced by what’s going on under the table.”
SF, in this case, I think more likely “she” (mom) is influenced, though I don’t know what’s all going on for sure.
Minnesotahorn said:
December 19th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Trips you’re my hero. Great, great job. I’ve more to say on this but I’ve got to run at the moment but did want to thank you for broaching this subject publically.
Albert Means said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Trips is crazy, nobody is going to pay under the table for a D Lineman.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Slick, I agree. Again, let me reiterate: From everything I’ve heard, JM is an outstanding and reputable student-athlete. It would be those around him who seem to have fallen onto the shady path. It’s well-documented that the battle used to be between Granny (OU lean) and Mom (Texas lean). Word has it that the two ladies are both fans of Da Shipp and Big Red Okie University now.
Stuck, I’m not sure how much pull LSU has now, but I’m sure that they could bring “something” very persuasive to the table if they chose.
Wannstache said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I don’t get it.
If it is true that, “These offers of inducements were communicated to Mack Brown and Staff by McFarland’s family.”, then I have a hard time following next steps.
Either the family says ‘we want this level of inducement or better from Texas’ – in which case we say no and he commits to the other team in his final 2 under consideration, or the family says ‘we don’t want inducements’ – in which case they would probably no longer be interested in dealing with the other institution under consideration.
If we take it as a given that Texas has no interest in providing “inducements”, then they have a clear choice (unless of course, the other institution is now sullied in their minds in some way but they still want a good deal from another player).
I’m way confused, as it seems like all this should have played out by the time we hear about it.
I hope none of the implications towards the family are true and JM comes to the 40 acres and wins Orakpo-like recognition.
Vandylove said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I bet she was offered a fast food franchise in Norman. McDonald’s, McDowell’s, McFarland’s. Probably Billy Sims’ idea.
srr50 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I’m not sure what you are afraid of? Journalistic Integrity? With all due respect…you are a blogger, so you have no journalistic integrity to lose and you aren’t naming your sources, so why would you be afraid to go into a little more detail?
Hippie – How about the idea that Trips is exhibiting a general sense of integrity?
As sausage fest mentions, his source could be identified more easily with more details,and if this is as far as he wants the information to go, then you honor that.
It also is common sense. If your source doesn’t want any more information out, and if you would like to keep him as a source – and a friend, then you don’t violate that request.
Just another aspect of that pesky Journalistic Integrity.
srr50 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Wannstache
The family may be looking at inducements, but if the kid is still pulling to come to Texas then the conflict within the family may be delaying any resolution to this.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I think srr50 is right. I think (just my uninformed opinion) that deep down, JM wants to be a ‘Horn. But familial pressure is a beast to overcome, and I think he’s getting squeezed a bit. This would explain why, as srr stated, Texas is still pressing. There still may be the slightest hope for the good guys, and it’s obvious what Mack and Boom think about JM if they’re still willing to get in there and mix it up knowing what they do.
ponderos said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Ahh … the annual “if Texas doesn’t get who they want, somebody must be cheating” story. This one’s earlier than usual.
Fecal McBee said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Hi! I’ve got a snide comment to make, but am afraid to put my real e-mail address down.
dedfischer said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Mack is still pissed.
TaylorTRoom said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
ponderos, aren’t you a fan of a program that has been caught cheating? more times than any other program in NCAA history?
Mysterious Package said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
We need this kid. He is an absolute must dont fool yourself.
SausageFest said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hey, nice of you to show up, ponderos! Care to join in on a round of “How come the Sooners can’t win a national title without going on NCAAA probation the following year?”
Ryan Broyles said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Gasoline won’t be a problem when he gets here.
Demarcus Granger said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
It’s winter, and I got tha hook-up on staying warm…
Cookie Monster said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I think Wannstache’s point is basically right – if the family’s approaching the UT staff saying they’re being offered inducements from other schools, well, that’s sure to bring closure one way or the other. It’s either a dealbreaker or a dealmaker, all by itself, depending on whether the family wants shady side benefits or not.
So if srr50’s suggestion that JM’s family doesn’t speak for the kid isn’t entirely true, any further action on UT’s part isn’t going to change the eventual outcome of the JM recruitment saga. If the family likes side benefits and we rat them out, it’s not like all of a sudden they’ll want their kid to go to Texas. If he’s gone, he’s gone.
But there’s a bigger picture here, and that’s the levelness of the playing field in our recruiting competition with other schools. Other schools have to know they can’t mess with Texas. They need to know that if they’re slipping under-the-table inducements to recruitees and their families, and Texas finds out about it, they’ll be strung out to dry by the NCAA. That will hopefully prevent this kind of crap in the future.
Side note: if only the schools were allowed to pay the players for their labor, these shenanigans wouldn’t be as much of an issue.
Hoffa said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
This site used to be funny on purpose, not funny in the “source of derision and mocking” sense.
“The documentation also serves to place other parties on notice that Texas is aware of the recruiting shenanigans and will not look the other way going forward. If escalation is needed, the documentation will be provided to parties of interest and not necessarily just the NCAA gumshoes. I was told the JM example, as well as others, could be provided to the Conference powers-that-be to effect change of some sort.”
“I have here in my hand a list of two
hundred and five [people] that were
known to the Secretary of State as
being members of the Communist Party
and who nevertheless are still working
and shaping the policy
of the State Department.”
You guys have become like OSU fans. It’s not pretty.
Cookie Monster said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Um, Hoffa’s comparing Trips (or is it Mack Brown?) to…Joe McCarthy. Huh?
Don’t play so coy, Hoffa. Just call us Nazis and get rid of the foreplay.
dick said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
it’s pretty easy to blame OU for cheating and not look like a fool for doing so. they’ve lost their innocent until proven guilty a long fucking time ago. i was afraid that stoops was breaking the tradition and was doing things the right way, then Big Red Auto happened and the world made sense again.
Bob said:
December 19th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I’m starting a fund to buy the okies their own web site so they can stop loitering at ours.
Who’s with me? I figure if we can come up with the a quarter of what they pay a starting lineman we could do it.
Gil
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Yes, saying ou cheats is tantamount to McCarthyism. Brilliant douchebaggery to say the least.
Cookie Monster said:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Besides – and let me address this to all y’all Okie visitors – the UT staff is just documenting what they’re being told by the family. We’re not the NCAA, we have no authority over you and we’re certainly not persecuting you, fer chrissakes.
If y’all get JM and the NCAA doesn’t come knocking then you’ve got nothing to worry about. But if it’s Big Red Auto all over again or worse, then you’re basically breaking into our house and pissing on our rug. Again. (And that rug brought together the whole room, man…)
So the Texas staff is saying, if that’s what’s happening, we’re not gonna lie down and take it anymore. Good for them.
Donnie said:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Somebody pissed on your rug, Dude?
Walter Sopchak said:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Donnie, shut the fuck up.
Horn in Tyler said:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I wonder if OU’s impending self-destruction/nonappearance/clusterfuck at the BCS “Championship” game on January 8th provides any sort of “incentive”?
SoonerPride said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I’ll say this, for the most part, Stoops runs a tight ship. However, I’m very upset about how the JM recruitment has gone. Word amongst some of our lead doners is that Stoops and Shipp have taken a page out of the SEC’s book on this one and seem hell bent on landing this kid no matter what it takes. I for one would like the program to keep its squeaky clean course and not have to stoop to Tenn/Bama/TexasAM levels.
7titles said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Soonerpride, STFU…and don’t post premium info on sites like this.
darko said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
OU is on probation, please reveal everything you know to the NCAA.
7TaintedTitles said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Yes Soonerpride, quit spreading that stuff, who would believe it anyway?
Wannstache said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Is it just me, or did a Sooner just say “I for one would like the program to keep its squeaky clean course” when speaking of the OU program?
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I bet Mack has similar information every year but the combination of Muschamp bringing a pair of balls to the program and Stoops elevating his douchebaggery to unprecedented heights has caused Mack to say “fuck it, I’m going to take this guy down”
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Has anyone noticed that ponderos never responds to anything on here? He just shows up, shits all over the place and then runs off with his tail tucked between his legs, knowing that he was somewhere he shouldn’t didn’t belong in the first. Kind of like the sooners in the bcs. Maybe is like genetic or something.
exuLt said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Hear, hear, Sailor. We get enough diet of that crap over at Hornfans.
Jeff said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
The NCAA and the SEC (securities and exchange commission) have alot in common
P, hope all is well.. are you headed back to austin for the holidays?
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Well, they did both bring enforcement actions against Switzer for blatant violations.
M said:
December 19th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I will be amazed if any of this is addressed in any official way by anyone. Things like this occur way under any regulatory radar.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
I think it’ll be addressed with the conference among other grievances.
SlickStreet said:
December 19th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I don’t imagine Texas is in too good a mood right now with the conference for a number of reasons. It’s understandable this kind of shit gets reported after repeated such stuff over the years (not just by OU).
thomas morgan said:
December 19th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I say we horn fans need to grow up. When we lose a recruit big deal, we will get another good one.
We Horna and our head coach are now viewed as whiners.
This story on JM’s recruitment is not only ridiculous and its probably untrue.
Um WTF said:
December 19th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Are you kidding thomas morgan? JM’s mom was pro UT, JM was rooting for the horns at the RRS, and then *boom* we are refused an in home? Are you kidding me?
The Big XII needs to be very careful if they decide to snub us. The shotgun wedding has never been a good fit for us and combined with screwing us over in the tiebreaker we are in search of a reason NOT to bolt.
lawdog13 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I’ve watched Mack Brown recruit for ten years and he simply doesn’t play this card unless he feels he has been pushed up against the wall. This is really a beautiful counterpunch. Not only does it deliver a message that we’re not going to put up with this kind of shit, but it asks a basic question of a young man who is by all accounts extremely smart and prideful – namely are you going to permit yourself to be bought and sold. Most haven’t given us much of a shot for a long time now, but I’d be damn worried if I were OU and this kid had resisted every overature up to now.
t1climb1 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Thomas Morgan,
I’m from Lufkin originally and have a friends that are very close to this recruitment and every thing Trips said is stuff I’ve been hearing for weeks. This is not Texas fans “whining”. My friends back home are getting their info from people with no UT affiliation and it’s exactly what Trips reported. There is some serious funny business going on. I won’t say anything more and don’t feel I need to but to come on here and say it probably isn’t true and this is just Texas whining again is incredibly dumb and naive.
P.S. JM is a good kid and his heart is with Texas (he wanted to commit to UT in September). The problem is with his mom and Grandmother. They have put this kid in a tough spot. So for all the people on here questioning JM’s character trust me he is not the problem.
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I think the “new strategy,” combined with Mack’s recent comments about reevaluating his usual call-off-the-dogs approach in blow-out games is a huge indication of exactly how frustratted he is with the outcome of this season. I’ve even heard from multiple sources that Mack seemed more upset about McCoy’s Heisman snub than McCoy was.
At any rate, my point is all of these little bits of information put together can give a pretty accurate indication of how pissed Mack, and the staff, really are.
On a personal note, I bleed burnt orange and not just because I went to UT. I’m VERY proud of the way Mack, Barnes, and the rest conduct their programs. The moment Texas stoops (ha!) to the level of cheating is the moment I find a new team to root for.
Oh, and my first thought when I read about Mack reevaluating running up the score was about how the ou game would play out next year. I’d not be surprised to see Mack try and run up that score if at all possible.
BiggUggly said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Anyone old enough (besides me) to remember what Earl said regarding the purchase of his ancesters?
AND that he was not for sale.
Soonerfan said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Pot calling kettle black. If you think for one second UT’s program is squeaky clean (Baseball, Cedric Bongsen, and others), you’ve got another thing coming. Add on to that the fact that UT’s player behavior as of the last 5 years makes OU look like a bunch of choir boys.
Could it be that Jackie Shipp (one of the best recruiters in the country) happened to open someone’s eyes to the crap spewed about their program by others. Do you think for a second that Mack would never talk smack about another program? You are nuts if you do. Muschamp knows that routine as well as anyone. He came from two programs that are as familiar with dirty recruiting as ANYONE.
Why do you think so many players stay four years? It’s because the pros don’t offer the same luxuries of being a football player at UT.
Deal with the fact that you’ll only get 7 of the top 10 in the state instead of 8. If we don’t get this kid, I’ll turn in my NAMBLA card.
Sasha_Is_A_Longhorn_Dog said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
And yet, UT is not the one who has recently been punished by the NCAA for violating rules.
It never fails to amuse me when sooners accuse UT of cheating. I’m guessing that they are incapable of understand how we can’t be since they OBVIOUSLY are. Too bad there is nothing to back up their ridiculous claims.
By the way, I have a copper kettle, not a black one. Analogy fails. Please go back to the trailer park from whence you came.
Soonerfan said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Really…what kind of car was good ol’ ced driving around when he was at school? I’m sure his parents bought it for him. (Yes, insert your Bomar joke here.) Hey, I get it…we paid for what we did. See there, I admit bad stuff went on. But Stoops could have swept it under the rug and nothing would have happened. Instead, he chose to nut up and cut loose his starting QB two days before the season started. He has balls, no excuses and coaches like it.
Think Mack would have done that with VY?
But you pretend that not getting caught is just like not doing it, and we all know what the truth it.
BEHorn said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Just another chapter in blowU’s Big Book of Cheating – a book already longer than the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Soonerfan, so you’re claiming Bomar, a backup Olineman (Quinn), and a walkon all received pay for no work, but superstars like Peterson, Ah You, Alexander, and the rest actually had to work at Big Red for their pittance? Are you really selling that? Seriously? Does that make sense?
Houstonearler said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
OU cheats. How else could they manage the tainted success they have “achieved”. Piece of shit school in a piece of shit state surrounded by mulleted, skunk pelt trading, slack jawed inbreds saving up for their El Camino down payments
Biggdan said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Benson played professional baseball. Get a life.
Darth Husker said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
It look more believable if you put this story on a page that makes it look like an actual news site. People will buy it that way, for a little while.
ctex80 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Soonerfan, re: Cedric Benson…
I never post on here, but you’re a dumb fuck. Ced was drafted to play minor league ball, and signed himself a nice little baseball contract with the Dodgers. Look it the fuck up. So hell no, his parents didn’t buy him a damn thing. He bought it with his own damn money.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
ctex80, post more often.
Jim said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
The real shame is that, assuming this is all 100% true, the girls at the ncaa will do absolutely nothing. The most crooked program in the country will get away with it again, and claim another mnc which they apparently have to steal, because they will never be able to achieve anything honestly. Hearing sooners talk about how we just don’t get caught is like hearing hookers complain about how crooked cops are with dick on their breath.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Darth, would it look more believable if I got on a nationally syndicated radio show and proclaimed Muschamp was a done deal to Auburn?
Or what if I donkey punched my girlfriend down the stairs and then got drafted by the Rams?
JMrelative said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I’m a cousin of JM. OU offered $500,000 in cold cash and a brand new car. My uncle deposited the money today. Trips you’re the man. I hope the NCAA investigates and drop the hammer. Go Longhorns! Go Mack Brown!
Lawerence Phillips said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Bitches must be kicked.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
JMrelative, that’s the thing, JM was never offered anything.
Show Horn said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Soonerfan–
Its not the previous 7 of 10 that matter, it is number 8 that matters. And if OU wants what is rightly Texas’ then they can’t win a fair fight, they have to resort to payola….as usual.
This time all of that Sooner “magic” you guys have built up recently is getting ready to go “poof.” And Mack Brown and the Gators will be leading the parade.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Stop and think about the post like this, someone offered special inducement to JM and as the poster said, they told Mack about the special inducements but in no way were they asking for them. If they are so above board, and I believe they are, and as others on here have implicated OU, why would the McFarlands still be considering OU? Either have something to say or shut up!!
BIG DAWG said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Oh, and for the guy who said if his whorns ever got caught cheating it would be time to find another team. Read the NYTimes article, looks like it is time for you to pledge allegiance to someone else now. However, probably like most whorn fans and bretheren you will go have a whine fest with Mack. Maybe you will even fly a plane pulling a sign that says something like. But, But, were Texas… we are entitled.
Biggdan said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Big Dawg: I don’t get it. We are entitled.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Thumper, hence Texas is fubarred on the in-home, but still in the race for JM. It ain’t complicated.
Barry Switzer said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I guess I am going to have teach little Bobby how to better how to better “handle” these situations.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Blow horn,
Mack Brown’s parade (read charade) ended when his coup attempt of the Big 12 rules failed. The Gators may in fact have a parade over a Sooner defeat but Texas and Mack Brown will have had no hand in it! We fought you “fair” and the rules favored us. That was not cheating or lying or whining. Texas di not cheat either but they did whine and to have called Bob and the boys cheaters in your grief was lying. That makes you 2 for 3. Look in the mirror and see what you are, not just what you want.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
So you are saying the McFarlands are dirty???
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Yes, Toby Keith, you’re right, Texas cheats as much as ou. We’re just so good at it we happen to lose once in a decade players like Peterson, Harris, and JM to a program that resides in an area about as cosmopolitan as Somalia.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Not yet.
Trips Right said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Thumper, my turn. Why the sudden change in heart with respect to the McFarland recruitment?
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
First let me say thank you for the TK reference. Let me also say you truly are a pompous ass. Your recruiting classes are always better than ours. But some players want more than just the in-state school. They want to be led by someone they can look up to, as a father figure and a man, sometimes thy just just want to play at a tradition rich school. Don’t look now but, while Texas may be the flagship school of one of the largest and most populous states in the union, when it comes to being a football power, “Somalia” has been kicking their butt for 60 years.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I have had no change of heart, only wanting to clarify your view.
Houstonearler said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
If Texas cheated, OU would never convince any state top 15 player to go to that wasteland.
You think you toothless inbreds could raise enough jack trading skunk pelts to outspend us if it came to that?
You routinely get your asses handed to you by our team and after you backdoor it into a Big 12 game you get your ass kicked by a second rate program or when you actually earn the conference you get your ass kicked by a good team like LSU, USC, or (about to be) Florida. No Chin Bob can’t claim a valid football reason to convince recruits to go to his shithole program.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Adrian and Tommie were high character guys before OU and that was certainly enhanced while they were there. Find someone credible who will say different. I understand JM is cut in the same mold, As is GK who within the last two weeks has undergone a similar burt orange hued smear campaign. You guys suck as winners but you are even worse losers
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Houston you are a twit who seems to have a repeated fascination with skunk pelts. You make no valid points and I am not here just to sling “Houstonearler” with you. That will be my only response to you.
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Oh shit, it looks like the meth is just kicking in for Thumper- this could go on all night.
Houstonearler said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Thumper, you dumbass. About half your programs are currently on probation for blatantly violating NCAA rules. You claim 7 “titles” — each are tainted by subsequent NCAA violations.
You have a shithole state and a shithole school. If Texas cheated your piece of shit community college football team would be fighting it out for bragging rights against the local indian reservation. You think your toothless inbred slack jaws could sell enough El Camino parts to outspend the University of Texas to sway local talents if we were really cheating? No. So shut the F up with your everyone is doing it argument. If we were doing it, you would be a division 3 school.
98 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
who the fuk is gk
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Trips High,
So let me get this straight, if the recruit is from Texas and he is very good and he doesn’t choose Texas, then he or his family are dirty. Multiply by 10 if he signs with Oklahoma. You are really full of yourself. So why do we go to all of the trouble recruiting and playing the games. You guys are the best and whoever disagrees is lying, cheating or toothless and inbred.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Kicking our butt for 60 years? Son if you can’t even be bothered to look up the series record then maybe you should just shut the fuck up.
And pointing out to pollsters that we kicked it your ass on a neutral field (and have done so 3 out of the last 4 years) isn’t whining. It’s a call to fairness. That not enough people listened is a testament to the greatness of your team, but rather indicative of what how shifty society has allowed itself to become. In other words, congrats on Barry Switzer becoming the standard bearer.
98 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
kat williams is a better father figure than no chin bob.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Gerald McCoy goes by GK. Kinda like Adrian Peterson goes by AD
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
You have beaten us 3 out of the last 4 years. I thought I said 60 years. No maybe it was just that we beat you 6 out of the last 9. No, i’m sure I said 60 years.
Thumperbambam said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I’m goin to have to go now, I can’t be staying up late at night arguing with a stupid flamingmonkeyass. Hope it gets better by Jan 8th
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
yep- you said 60 years. Now go add up the record of the 2 teams head to head (that still matters right?) and tell me who has the better one in that time frame.
98 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
the meth definitely kicked in. he did say we sucked the for the last 60 years(while still leading the series with ou)
Texas said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
OU’s only won 20 games vs UT in the last 50 years.
Stuck in MN said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
I sent an Okie off to do math. Was that mean?
Sooner that knows said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Well Trip I loved reading this … I will be sure to send this to his mother and grandmother. Uterus never changes … if a kid chooses another team to win Championships then he is dirty. You guys never change. Most of you whorne fans are predictable but for an admin to print outright blatent lies is just beyond me.
Beaten Dead Horse said:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
I’ll add my two cents. It’s not recent but it is the truth. In 1971, I know for a fact that a very good friend of mine received a brand new Dodge Charger for signing with OU. No question, no doubt. From his lips to my ears. His family lived in a house that could charitably described as patched with plywood and baling wire.
At this same time, I had several frat brothers and friends who played for DKR. Some were stars, some weren’t. No one said they ever received a dime for signing with UT. In fact, just the opposite. Every player got four tickets to games for family. On several occasions I sold those tickets for them. In every case the stipulations were that I sold them for face value and under no circumstances was I to disclose where they came from because if Darrell found out, they would be kicked off the team.
The UT situation was players gaming the system at the risk of their scholarship and in the OU case it was institutional corruption.
I have no proof that the cheating is still going on but I know for a fact in one instance a recruit was given a brand new car to sign with OU.
FootballU said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Is Mack Brown still whining about the BCS. When is that old fart going to stop crying like a baby? It’s embarrassing to the university. He should have beat Tech and we wouldn’t be in this mess. And stop all of that banner crap. That’s not going to do anything but make us look like whiners.
We’re Texas not Whiners.
Rightous said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Yeah, I’m also tired of Mack Brown crying in public. It does us no favor.
We’re Texas and not bunch of cry babies, I hope.
Linebacker said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
When is Muschamp going to takeover the team. Mack should resign, while we still have Muschamp. Muschamp will hopefully win another conference title. How many title does OU have? Something like 6 or 7 in the last 10 years? That’s what we should be doing for a change.
FootballU said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Yeah. OU has 6 Big 12 Conference Championships. Played in 7. Arrrggg!!!
Rightous said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I knew it. 6 Big 12 Conference Championships in 10 years. Why them?
Linebacker said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Whiners or Winners, which is it? LOL
CloseToJumping said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Tommie Harris’ signing was flat out bought. I didn’t think was in dispute anymore? I see sooners up above attempting to convey otherwise. The guy will fucking tell you if you ask him. He regrets being on that campus.
With OU cheating again, I certainly hope we are documenting anything we can. I am all for walking out of this conference and the NCAA. They’ve both gotten to a point of being an aid to the liars and the cheaters and of little help to anyone else.
Where is the Danny Robbins guy when you need him? Turn him loose.
While we’re at it, the going price for Alabama recruits last year was about $50,000. That’s not more of a secret than the McFarland dealings and the Albert Means scenario. I am sure they’ll be in trouble soon too.
CloseToJumping said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
The hilarious part about “Rightous” is that you can tell he’s a sooner by the way he spells the handle. That is funny shit. The attempt to mock the thread turns into a direct mockery of the poster and his school. Oh man.
uhook82 said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Some knowledgeable posts here. The profanity is lame, however, and doesn’t f*cking add a thing to the quality of the point being made.
“Hippie killer”?!!
That’s charming.
Besides… its hippy.
Linebacker said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
How can you tell? I still believe Mack whining has gotten out of hand. We need Muschamp to takeover the team and start kicking some rump.
FootballU said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I’m with you on the Muschamp move. When do you think this is going to happen. Mack Brown has done all he can do. Make him head of football operations.
Muschamp is the answer.
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I heard A&M offered Vince Young a $15 Dixie Chicken gift card to play for them next year.
Linebacker said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Not sure, but I have some connections. I will place my ear to the wall and see what I can find out. Something has to give. Texans are not whiners. At least not in public LOL!
Jackburton said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Hey, Rightous/Linebacker/FootballU. Just a word of advice: when you come on a forum and post under three different fake identities, and actually have a conversation with yourself, it’s not being clever, it’s a sign of a mental health issue. Get help!
FootballU said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Speaking of Vince Young. Is he coming to the football banquet this year? I hope to see him there.
Bunbury said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Trolls everywhere! Come on fellas lets just take this over to shaggy, no sense mucking things up over here.
Jackburton said:
December 19th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
P.s. Try not to “reply” to yourself so quickly, too. It’s sort of easy to tell it’s one guy pretending to be three different people when the replies are always 1-2 minutes apart. What are you, stooooooopid?
FootballU said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:00 am
I’m back!
I’m glad to see Shipley and Colt will be back next year.
FootballU said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Linebacker,
You still there?
Linebacker said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Yeah, I was over at Orangebloods. It looks like McFarland is going to be a Sooner. Rats.
Yeah, Colt will be back. Shipley is requesting a sixth year. Those dudes are for real.
FootballU said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Yeah, but Mack Brown will whine Shipely a sixth year. That old fart can talk a good spin. I’m sure he will sell the NCAA.
FootballU said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Yeah, McFarland really wasn’t in to Texas. He just likes the pampering. Muschamp would have pampered him real good. LOL
FootballU said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:05 am
I’m going to hit the sack.
Linebacker said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Ok…me too.
thekillertomato said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:32 am
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Coaches around the country are those that are most aware of the type of recruiting tactics utilized by other coaches. The Coach’s Poll is where you see all of that play out.
If Stoops and OU were so dirty, why did nearly every Big12 Coach, and many other Coaches put OU over Texas when honestly it could have gone either way.
Also, in the way you address this BS rumor, you accuse the McFarlands of some very inappropriate things, and they do not deserve that.
Have some pride. You guys have a great University in a giant state, and you get the pick of the immense number of talented players. If a few recruits decide to go elsewhere, then it isn’t because you were cheated … it’s because maybe OU or another school had (legitimate) qualities that UT could never offer.
I recently drove through Austin, on the way from my trailer part to San Antonio with the fam. Both on my way there and on my way back, I was stuck in traffic at a stand still for 10-15 minutes, in Austin, early on a Wednesday and on Saturday around 10:30 am. Is that what you mean by more cosmopolitan? Traffic?
Norman is very different from Austin. I’ve been to your school and think its downtown setting is pretty cool, but I prefer Norman’s college town appeal, as do MANY OTHERS.
Peace out.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 20th, 2008 at 1:18 am
You know what I think I like best about having score board on ou this year? The bitter pain that will eat away at the sooners because they know that no matter what happens in Miami we’re a better football team than them. Not to mention a better program. They realize that win or lose there will be a large contingent of non Longhorn fans who will know this and will view any accomplishment by this sooner team as tainted.
That’s why there’s so many sooner fans around here lately. It’s the guilt the guilt of knowing that stoopsie and his troops are playing in a game where they don’t belong. They know we’re a better team than them. They know that if we played agan tomorrow we’d whip their ass just like we did in October. That’s why they’re here. Some part of them is seeking some kind of forgiveness. Well don’t worry sooners your forgiveness will come next October. When we’re throwing into the endzone with a four score lead and only 6 or 7 minutes to play, stick around the Cotton Bowl and you shall have your absolution.
scagnetti said:
December 20th, 2008 at 1:24 am
This sure is messy…
What some may he missing is the strategic move Mack played here.
Given Tripps ethical, responsible and concisly professional reporting is true to the letter, there is a bold move being made in recruiting today. I don’t know if it’s new, but it sure is rare.
If Mack leaked this info – or allowed the leak to Tripps to go down – then he is essentially squeezing this kid. And thru the press no less.
The hand now dealt – because Mack has hereby shown his cards – passes the bet on to the parentals’ and JM’s place at the table.
Mack just went all-in with this kid in seemingly the only ‘clean’ way he can…by leaking it to the pit boss that ‘[an]other program’ has a card up it’s sleave.
(Sorry about that. I beat the death outta that poker metaphor…)
The Forty Acres may be whining, but I’m proud to claim the ethical highground while doing it.
Beergut said:
December 20th, 2008 at 2:28 am
flamingmonkeyass,
I’m sure the Sooner fans will feel tremendous guilt and pain about one loss in October if they win the BCS national title.
I don’t know how they’ll sleep at night.
Husker Fan said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:14 am
$toops clean…what a laugh …. OU is still on on probation from paying Bomar and 19 others…. give me a break …. OU is as dirty as they come
t1climb1 said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Husker fan,
Actually 41 players were employed by Big red. The 20 players figure comes from the Gasoline incident. There were 20 players stealing gasoline.
Eskimohorn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:46 am
Can’t spell douchebaggery without ou. Or, aggy for that matter.
Horn in Tyler said:
December 20th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Given the large Sooner contingent/infection prevalent in this topic, one thought comes to mind:
They doth protest too much.
RansomStoddard said:
December 20th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Jackie Shipp should have his own NCAA detective shadowing him everywhere he goes. And that is from people at OU who know him, and have integrity. Just sayin…
Horn in Tyler said:
December 20th, 2008 at 6:41 am
Has Texas ever gotten any decent recruits out of Lufkin? I mean, there’s not a single person out of Lufkin on the current team, which is strange considering Lufkin’s seemingly perennial playoff pushes. The last big recruit out of Lufkin was a major flop and committed to one of Texas’s rivals. Now Reggie McNeal is a WR in the CFL. Not probably what he expected.
t1climb1 said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Horn in Tyler,
As one who gre up in Lufkin I can tell you it is dominated by aggys. I was one of about 5 people I knew from my class that went to Texas. Meanwhile, about 50 of my friends went to A&M. Always been that way. I do think you are about to see some more recruits looking at Texas though. I know for a fact that coach outlaw is a really big fan of McWhorter who is assigned to that area, and he is not a fan of the Sherman administration. Regardless of what happens with JM this year keep your eye on the DB from Lufkin who is a junior. His name is Carrington Byndom. Texas is looking at him right now.
Dupree said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:26 am
“There are other rumors out there regarding the outlaw program involved here but they come from different sources and I’m not at liberty to discuss them”.
Code for I really don’t have any sources or inside info, but I am bitter because the kid is going to OU. Ever heard of slander MORON!
Biggest Horn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:43 am
<p>C’mon, we are a <del datetime=”2008-12-20T17:23:29+00:00″>close</del> far distant second in terms of probation and we just couldn’t win as many titles. Now, let’s get in there and not pay what it takes to make it happen like we did with Vince and Roy Miller, it will get washed under the carpet (I have no idea what this means) as usual and our
Bitchwinning Coach Mack can continue towhinewin and we can live underthe house of cards that istexas integrity!</p>flamingmonkeyass said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Beergut, I know that I’ll sleep just fine at night if they do win, because then I’ll know not only are we better than the sooners, we’re better than anyone else in the country. It’s a shame that we won’t get a chance to prove it in Miami, but c’est la vie.
The irony of an aggie chiming in on a thread about questionable recruiting tactics is not lost on me sir. Well played. I guess if there was such a thing as an “expert” in this field, it’d be you guys.
By the way, saw your personal Heisman ballot on your blog. Your hatred of all things Longhorn effects your judgement. No surprise there, just pointing it out. I guess my question then is why you spend so much time on Texas sites.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:48 am
“Second in terms of probation”? That’s laughable. Unless you’re an aggie too “biggest horn”.
Look if you sooners can’t even be bothered to do a little research before posting then seriously, shut the fuck up. It’s called google people.
LEMILES said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Offerings go down at all schools. Big Red Sports and Imports isnt the only car dealership in the OKC area offering extra benefits I promise. They are the only ones that got caught. That whole “Mile of Cars” is extra benefit heaven for OU players and recruits. Thats just in the OKC area. Start looking into dealerships in Lawton and Tulsa then you will figure out how bad it is.
NateHeupel said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:57 am
CloseToJumping: For every one intelligent post, you have at least 5 posts that show you to be a complete retard. Apparently, you’re working through those 5 here.
To be quite honest, I wouldn’t be shocked at all if this was true.
Having said that, the prevalent attitude on this thread is the reason OU pulls elite talent out of Texas every year. It goes something like this: “OU has to cheat to get great Texas players. That’s the only reason they wouldn’t come to UT.” It’s an arrogant sense of entitlement, and UT is notorious for it.
RJ Washington specifically complained about Mack Brown and the UT staff having this attitude before he signed with OU. He said in no uncertain terms that Brown EXPECTED him to sign with UT without knowing a thing about him, and that Brown was pissed and couldn’t understand why RJ wanted to keep his options open.
My brother worked for several bars on 6th Street over the last 4 years. I asked him what the UT players were like. He said in no uncertain terms that they got “special” treatment and they knew it. Heck, Cedric Benson was quoted in an article about VY’s meltdown stating that it was hard to adjust to NFL life because they were treated like “gods” in Austin.
Here’s another tidbit. Austin is a shithole. The Austin suburbs are GORGEOUS. Round Rock is something incredible. But Austin itself, especially around the 40 acres? Shithole. There’s nothing cosmopolitan about no public restrooms for a 2 mile radius due to a fear of people using the rooms to shoot up.
On the other hand, Norman was rated by Money Magazine as the 6th best place to live in America. That makes it a great place for grown ups, but it’s a mediocre place for a college kid. I know, I got my degree there. The point being that, unlike Austin, it’s not a shithole of crime, drugs, and booze.
The bottom line: Do I believe this? Yes, I do. It makes me wonder how UT got the information, though, because none of this adds up to anything but bullshit unless one of the following points is off:
1) Someone made the offer.
2) McFarland’s family greeted the offer warmly.
3) These offers of inducements were communicated to Mack Brown and Staff by McFarland’s family. That in no way shape or form means that McFarland’s family asked for extra benefits or inducements – it just means the subject was broached with the staff.
Sorry, trips, but I call BS on #3. On that, either you or your source is a flat out liar.
UT wasn’t told about this by sheer virtue, and OU doesn’t suddenly lead for McFarland by all accounts for nothing. McFarland’s family asked UT for a matching offer, and that’s how UT got the info they have. I understand though, that you can’t say otherwise or you would be on the receiving end of a massive lawsuit.
Also, on the Broyles thing with the free gas, while I’m certain some of you have imaginary sources, I actually knew the owner of the businesses because I lived there. Broyles went to Norman High and was a god to the locals. He got hooked up because he knew the guy who delivered the gas, a local gas truck delivery driver with a kid on the Norman High team. The delivery drivers are the only ones, including the gas station owner, with the key and the code to the pump that Broyles was busted with.
As for the Adrian Peterson deal, he drove a beat up 88 Isuzu most of his time in Norman. His folks co signed on a used Lexus with Big Red (who only sells new Suzukis, but has good used car deals), who then tried to shop the RISC. If you don’t know what RISC shopping is, please don’t comment. Big Red was notorious for it. Big Red promised AD’s folks a decent interest rate (about 8-10%). They shopped the contract for about a month trying to get it, and the best they could do was 19%. That’s when the Lexus went back.
OUsniffsware said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I will try and keep this as short as possible. A couple of years ago Stoops went public with something along the lines of we are going back to our recruiting base. Whatever the heck that is,from the national plan that did not go so well. The OU base has been and under the bootlegger boy was east Texas type kids and such. What alot of you are missing in the whole saga is how teniuos the OU life line is. It is a hair from being KU or KSU without the pipeline of top talent from Texas. ( See Nebraska results when Texas was cut out).
Stoops knows this and it strikes the fear of God into him. Couple that with how close Switzer is to the program and you see the results. Big Red Auto had a self destruct button prgramed into it. If you will recall the dealership was immediatly sold and key records were lost to protect the heart and lungs of the Sooner machine. Stoops is afraid, very afraid since he has now lost 3 of 4 and is starting to lose out on the top 10 in Texas. If Bradford leaves and the key skill players etc and the O line it can get ugly in Oct next year. He has to win this game in Miami to have any shot at competing in recruiting in the next few years. You see it in is demeaner and his assholiness.
I have no doubt that most of this is true and I for one am happy that Belmont appears to be taking the gloves off. I have said for years that alot of the country and conference just flat out hates us and will hate us no matter how nice we are and no matter how “sportsmanlike” we are. We saw it with Vince now with this OU beauty contest and with Colt that is essentually rewarding the senior class that was involved in Big Red Auto. The coastal media types have screwed us too many times. My position is take no prisoners from here on out. There is nothing to lose and they are gonna put the screws to us anyway so we might as well pound all comers when we have the chance. So know a kid from Lufkin who was a strong Texas lean striking at the heart of the OU lifeline starts to go to the dark side?. Oh my God if they lose east Texas the line is cut. They will stop at nothing to keep east Texas and you are seeing this. They laugh at the NCAA and it is institutional cooruption at OU. The fricken Governer said as much in the 50’s when this all started with Wilkenson . Its in the blood and they are proud of it. Its just the way they do things. The end justifies the means.
The problem is when you wrestle with pigs you just get dirty and the pig likes it.
Here is to hanging 60 on them next Oct.
ponderos said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Here’s another tidbit. Austin is a shithole. The Austin suburbs are GORGEOUS. Round Rock is something incredible.
See, that’s where your post ran off the road, amigo. Round Rock might as well be Dallas.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:18 am
srr50- Actually, that answers my question very well. I did not even consider that angle…so thank you. My apologies to TripsRight.
Sailor Ripley and uhook82- We should get together sometime. I know a dark alley off of San Jacinto.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:20 am
The killer tomato says- “I recently drove through Austin, on the way from my trailer part to San Antonio with the fam.”
I laughed.
Longhorn4Life said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:22 am
I decided to email the article to the infractions committee of the NCAA. I hope they drop the hammer this time. Cheating GOONERS. Good job Trips you’re a GOD among the LONGHORN faithful.
Bark said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:33 am
This site has reached a new level of stupid.
You dumbfucks will believe anything as long as it is anti-OU. An when you find out it was wrong, you just pretend it was true anyway. Fuck, you are some stupid people.
Horn in Tyler said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:33 am
To a Sooner, the grotesque suburbia cookie cutter nightmare that is Round Rock is “incredible.” Amazing. If you want to sense Austin, think Capitol 10K, the Town Lake trail, KGSR, Shady Grove, Celis White. Round Rock is JackFM, Applebee’s, and 24HR Fitness, Coors Light. Are you kidding me?!?
98 said:
December 20th, 2008 at 8:58 am
the sooner whining is reaching centurion levels; call bangalore and tell them to backup the servers scipio.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:08 am
The Sooner insecurity on this site has reached a new level of stupid.
These dumbfucks will believe anything as long as it is pro-OU. An when they find out it is wrong, they just pretend it is true anyway. Fuck they are some stupid people.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Why so many sooner homos posting on a Longhorn website?
I’m quite sure if the Longhorns were playing Florida, there would be no Longhorns trolling on Sooner websites.
Cedric Benson said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Hey, let’s have more posts about sooners posting.
You guys seen my TV? Where the hell is my TV??!
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Also let me say to all you queers: send pics or come visit. I love the taste of salty semen on my lips. Ha!
Minnesotahorn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:29 am
“This site has reached a new level of stupid.
You dumbfucks will believe anything as long as it is anti-OU”
Terrible. Take a lap. Everyone who knows anything about this recruitment knows the jist of what Trips posted. We’ve been unable to discuss it openly which is why I’m praising Trips so much.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:31 am
45-35 bitch-ass sooners. 45-35.
Hippie Killer said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Nice semen blast sooner. I leave you with another: 45-35 b-yatch.
RansomStoddard said:
December 20th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Anyone who thinks the toilet that is Norman Oklahoma is anything other than a toilet loses any ounce of credibility they may have initially had. No trees, dozens of used car lots, horrible food and ugly women do NOT make for a good town. Add in the ugly campus and it is clear that there must be other reasons anyone would attend school there.
Nero said:
December 20th, 2008 at 10:33 am
In my experience, Tulsa is the only clearing in the otherwise forest of shit that is Oklahoma.
The General said:
December 20th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Good luck to JM, he seems like a good kid with a tough decision to make.
At the end of the day, one royally pissed off Mack Brown ready to go postal on all of college football will be more valuable than any single football player.
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 20th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Austin sucks but Round Rock is incredible? Jesus.
scagnetti said:
December 20th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Any last words, Trips?
AustinHorn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am
OU CHEATS all the time. Let them have JM, we run the cleanest program in the nation. GOONERS are suffering from KARMA, I guarantee it! We are NATIONAL CHAMPS, not OU or FLORIDA. Nobody can beat us! They cheated us BIGTIME! tOSU get ready the NATIONAL CHAMPS are coming with Bevo. Fight FIGHT FIGHT! SCOREBOARD!
Horn in Tyler said:
December 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am
A very timely “Vault” story on cnnsi.com:
Boomer! Boomer! Boomer! Boomer! Boomer!
AustinHorn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Next year we will exterminate the SOONER Football tradition LIKE IT NEVER EXISTED IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
Kriess said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Wow…someone’s disgruntled. Or not 40.
Show Horn said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I stated on Orangebloods weeks a go that Texas has to throw the gauntlet to OU right now and unfortunately a good kid like McFarland is in the middle of two CFB super powers…….this reminds me a little of the Scott and CU recruitment and look what that did to Scott, he might never recover.
I told OU supporters that a lot of negative ramifications would come out of their illegitimate jump of Texas and this is just one of the many that are coming down the pipe.
Boys this is a different beast you are dealing, the sleeping giant has awoken and OU will suffer for their past sins. The good book states, “No sin will go uncovered” and the chickens are coming home to roost.
Sooners I hope you have enjoyed your recent run and you better pull out ALL stops for that UF game, but we all really know deep in our hearts how that will go down.
Round Rock said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I haven’t had an orthodox career, and I’ve wanted more than anything to have your respect. The first time I didn’t feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can’t deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!
Riverside said:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Its ok…you’re still better than us
South Austin said:
December 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Snort.
KingDavid said:
December 20th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Demarcus, good to see you on the board here, and that you’ve kept your sense of humor about stealing that coat.
Here’s the thing that confuses me, Demarcus:
If OU is out there buying off 5 Star defensive tackles, as this post and its subsequent dialogue would have us believe, then I’m curious why you were going for the old five finger discount at Burlington Coat Factory.
I mean, was it just that the Evil, Unethical, Dastardly, Cheating (but all-the-time-winning-the-big-XII-so-maybe-we-horns-are-just-making-this-shit-up-because-we-are-jealous-of-them) Sooners Sooners get your size wrong?
12th and Chicon said:
December 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Round Rock really pumps my nads.
The General said:
December 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
KingDavid,
If the Sooners have proven anything, its that they are really bad at cheating. Why would there athletes be any different?
Most major violations of any program regards,
EG
Sooner that knows said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
NEWS FLASH….. CNBC just announced that Austin was leading the nation in a financial recovery. All the cheese makers are sending truckload after truckload of their cheses(not their finest) to austin to go with the longhorn whine. Fitting that they lambast JM and his family lol because he is concidering TU. LOL after his mom and grandmother read the venom spewed here by the whornes it will be EASY to justify his going to OU. Funny thing about that retard jmrelative is that the uncle IS a longhorn fan. I am sure that OU would give money to a longwhorne fan,,, LOL that sounds like something Mack’s son would do… LOL WHAT and idiot. Maybe he can recover another fumble this year in their bowl game. The constant clamering about JM being dirty and overrated will help OU and our cause. You can tell that this IS a TU blog where fiction is bigger than truth or fact. LOL just like the uterus(can’t spell uterus with the ut) football team…. always behind OU. I can assure you that IF we beat Florida the only ones whining will bet TU. Y’all be sure to go get the freshest cheese you can now. I suggest the pepper cheese because you can spin it as the cheese making you cry!
Facebook User said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Is that satire?
Colby said:
December 20th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Cheese and whine? I heart the 90s. What. A. Dork.
flamingmonkeyass said:
December 20th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Behind you? In what exactly? NCAA violations? That’d be correct.
uthookem said:
December 20th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Yep…the sooners are ‘All In’ at this point.
Stoopsie knows that losing 5 BCS bowl games in a row would not do well for recruiting.
I would not be surprised to see stoopsie bolt for the nfl…soon. The cheating is getting pretty close to catching up with him when dumb folks like us are yapping about actual instances of said cheating on a blog.
Oh yeah, fuck all you sooner trolls.
Seriously. Go fuck yourselves. Now. Bitch.
Hook ‘em!
OUsniffsware said:
December 20th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Exactly Hookem, This is his senior Big Red Auto class and what is behind it? Lake Travis kicked Longviews ass today and East Texas is not the recruiting hot bed Barry thinks it is. They are like a Internet stock or finance stock right before the fall….They should have be spanked a lot harder on this Beg rED aUTO DEAL AND LOTS OF FOLKS KNOW IT. Just could not prove it due to the self destruct mechanism they had in place.
lobo said:
December 21st, 2008 at 12:18 am
If you have a problem with the University of Texas at Norman then that’s fine, but leave longview out of this.
BEHorn said:
December 21st, 2008 at 12:37 am
The problem with any thread about blowU is that sooners will descend in defense of their “institution”, resulting in a wave of dumbness destroying the thread.
For every sooner who just tries to write this off, a question: Given your richly-documented history of disregarding and flat-out violating the rules, right up through the Big Red scandal, why do you feel so safe in assuming that your “school” is NOT cheating now?
Uptown Dallas Douchebag said:
December 21st, 2008 at 8:14 am
“Here’s another tidbit. Austin is a shithole. The Austin suburbs are GORGEOUS. Round Rock is something incredible.”
Dude! I totally hear where you’re coming from, bro.
Horn in Tyler said:
December 21st, 2008 at 8:58 am
Uptown Dallas offers the nondescript sterility that a Sooner would find “charming.”
OUsniffsware said:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:01 am
Longview simply lost the game to LT just stating a fact.
hopefulhorn said:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:29 am
Some real SNL material here–hilarious.
mr. horn said:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:55 am
At the risk of derailing this festival of douchebaggery, a couple of interesting possibilities here:
1. Why is OU THAT obsessed with JM? I’d be willing to bet that this is as much about hurting Texas’ changes at the MNC *next year* as anything. DT is a weak spot, and JM may be the most college-ready option at that position. Stoops knows that Texas getting another title now would really hurt them. Undoubtedly they want JM for their own evil purposes, but I wouldn’t underestimate hitting UT in a crucial position of need as incentive for them to be more brazen than usual here.
2. I’m not sure why everyone is so mystified about why this is playing out like it is. If UT put the family on notice, then the reality is that the offer from OU (whatever it is) is, at the very least, in serious jeopardy, as OU scrambles to cover its ass. The family is probably very pissed at UT for screwing up something that may have seemed attractive. On the other hand, OU will be backpeddling but still trying to close the deal, which means a *very* awkward dance to “clear up” the earlier “misunderstanding” while simultaneously dangling the ever-vague carrot out there if JM does sign with the Sooners. Hence, the family is mad at UT, but not sure what to do. If they go with OU, will they get anything? How will they know? Will UT come after them? Will the NCAA? Is going with OU going to turn him into Albert Means? What to do?
JM is probably torn and would prefer to go to UT anyway, but now the family is pissed that UT seems like it’s going to turn them in if JM goes to OU. It can’t sit well for them to send their son to a school that seemingly has just threatened them. While I’m sure UT was very diplomatic in how they presented it, there is no doubt that the family feels squeezed by UT. Quite a pickle for all concerned, except for UT.
By the way, if he does go to OU, you can bet that OU will figure out a way to renege on the offer. Then they’ll have JM and won’t even have to come out of pocket. Plus they’ll strut around like they’ve been vindicated since no punishment will be forthcoming. See, Scott, Darrell (Colorado, 2008).
Strawman said:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:59 am
jeez, mr. horn. At least warn me first.
mr. horn said:
December 21st, 2008 at 11:00 am
Too subtle. I don’t get it.
KingDavid said:
December 21st, 2008 at 11:04 am
Behorn,
There is no educated fan of a major college football program who should feel safe in assuming that his/her program is not cheating.
We are all just one or two bad apple boosters (Big Red) and/or dumb-ass kids (Rhett Bomar) from ESPN’s next exclusive story. If you think anything differently, you need to extract your head from your ass.
To imply, however, that your chief rival (and not coincidentally, the team to which yours routinely finishes second place) is somehow running a coordinated illegal recruiting scheme from the top-down is . . . well . . . how shall we say this?
Some might call it offensive – but to me it’s far too silly for that.
I guess I’d just call it cliche.
Well, I suppose I’ll be moving on to some more imaginative dialogue elsewhere. This shit is too damn boring.
ChrisApplewhite said:
December 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I would love to hear this in a court of law. The sooner defense team’s big argument appears to be “oh, what EVER!”
burnt orange dog said:
December 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
My favorite Ou defense was, “If we were paying our players so much, why did Granger need to steal a coat?”.
NateHeupel said:
December 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
SOrry for that last post. Norman sucks cocks
Big Easy said:
December 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
somebody ask tommie harris about killeen cablevision guy. please, someone do it.
NateHeupel said:
December 21st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
What did OU give Tommie Harris?
Sooner that knows said:
December 21st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
NOTHING… but since truth and fact have NO meaning to you whornes then just come up with anything and everyone will jump onboard with you. Tommy Loved his days at OU.
bgood2texas said:
December 21st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I didnt know this many okies were literate.
Colby said:
December 21st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
OK then. By KingDavid. Fuck off to some other blog now. We’re all really, really gonna miss you.
Horn in Tyler said:
December 21st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
KingDavid, if it’s “too damn boring,” then why in the hell did you spend the 2 hours you spent writing that lame blog entry? Could it be that there’s nothing else to do in Norman?
anonymous said:
December 21st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Of all the OU nonsense on this thread, and there is a lot (I guess they get upset when you remind them of what they are?), nothing comes close to NateHeupel’s brilliance:
“Austin is a shithole. The Austin suburbs are GORGEOUS. Round Rock is something incredible.”
Close the thread. Hell, close the website. There can be no better distillation of the Sooner milieu.
ShowHorn said:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:45 pm
sooner that knows…..no wonder Tommy Harris is so pissed off at the Sooners these days.
The kid got promised the moon, but didn’t get NOTHING after signing with the Sooners….well I be damn, those cheating AND lying SOBs.
This just ought to be a lesson to all future Sooner recruits. Under Switzer the Sooners cheated but Swtitzer never lied to the recrutis.
He made damn sure you got the cars, money, girls, jobs, etc….but under the Stupes regime you get the SHAFT. They show you the corn but give you the cob.
PatronSaint said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:02 am
Well, if quality of education is truly one of JM’s concerns, the writing quality on this thread is a good indicator of which he should choose.
intellectual type said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 am
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-top-public
Take a gander if you wish.
PatronSaint said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 am
Hmm. I suppose that doesn’t speak too well of my education because I was trying to communicate the fact that the typical Sooner can only communiate in typo-ridden lolspeak, but made you think I was insulting UT’s eduation quality.
PatronSaint said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 am
*Blast. communicate, education. I grade myself F-.
ulose said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
You guys are fooling yourselves if you think Vince Young wasn’t paid or provided with a sweet ride–everyone cheats, including Texas. OU and Texas are 11 and 12 in the Big 12 in graduation rates for football players–both teams are littered with ineligible players. Texas has more money than any university–they can sweep things under the rug a lot easier.
intellectual type said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
…and you spell you the wrong way.
Patron, I was just showing the difference between OU and UT in quality of education. UT is #15 while OU is #52.
TxTower said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 am
ulose,
Of course everyones cheats! Why didn’t I see it before? And the supporting facts about graduation rates and all that Texas rug money really bolstered your argument. Brilliant post. Thanks for sharing.
anonymous Jr. said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
Hey dad that was pretty funny
srr50 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
If Texas decided to organize the cheating in a way that OU, SMU and A&M have been recorded doing, it would be the “nuclear solution” to our problems.
ulose said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
Any time TxTower–just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of how pointless a thread is about shady recruiting when everyone does it. ‘Cause we all know an 18 year-old kid who’s being recruited by everyone would much rather be in Oklahoma or Texas than Florida or California!
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 11:57 am
From another board, but sums up my thoughts pretty succinctly:
“Fellow Sooners, do we sound this pathetic when we lose the Big XII Championship routinely and have nothing better to do?
Oh, yeah. I guess that question doesn’t really apply to us.
Well, let me just say that if we should ever retreat back into a protracted and seemingly endless period of mediocrity and second-place finishes, I just hope we can display a little more class than these Horns while they wait another 30 years or so for the next Vince Young.”
Trips Right said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
“…but sums up my thoughts pretty succinctly.”
A bound and gagged gimp could sum up your thoughts succinctly.
6xBig12Champ said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
I heard from a very good inside source that Ricky Williams stopped toking it up between July and January bc Mack asked him to, just to keep the pristine state of the Longhorn program intact. Drug use is looked down upon by the folks at the NCAA ya know… You guys are a joke, there are too many hypocritical UT references here to go into.
I love how you pussies can post heresy and innuedo as truth and hide behind your keyboard with this BS about “inside connections” and “the word around Lufkin”. Well I say lay it out on the table you bastards. If you have the smoking gun, let’s hear it. If you’ve got the goods, you get your wish and the evil empire will go down in flames like your nightly wet dreams. I’ll send it directly to the NCAA infractions committee, signed, sealed, delivered. Hell, lets fly a banner around the f’in nation! If you’ve got nothing, then I’ll chalk it up to nutless whining concocted in your blog circle jerk, just like your sniveling baby coach. Unless you can post the irrefutable facts of the Sooner’s recruitment violations and inducements for Jemarkus McFarland for the college football world to see here as public knowledge, this thread = FAILURE.
TaylorTRoom said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Did the Sooners beat us this year? I didn’t think so, but all of the Sooner posters are talking trash like they did.
Aren’t we going to make it 4 out of 5 next year?
Colby said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Sooner71, fuck off to your other board then, ya dumb okie piece of shit! If you find conjecture on here so inoffensive and unworthy of response, quit fucking responding!
We beat your sorry ass, and the Gators are gonna beat your sorry ass! You made it into the national championship because you beat an upstart Texas Tech at home! Big Whoop!
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Well. Hmmm. I suppose you might be right, Trips. And as long as we’re exploring the intellectual capabilities of those with physical disabilities (umm, were we actually doing that?), I guess I’d even concede that a quadripalegic could sum up my thoughts succinctly.
Now, you’d better get back to work on your PhD in English down there in Austin, OK?
uthookem said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Yep, all of those Big XII Championships have really turned into a lot of MNCs!
Wait, whatzit? You only have one BCS MNC? And that was with someone else’s recruits? Tsk..tsk..losing your 5th BCS bowl in a row is going to hurt, especially after we win our 3rd in a row, only to make it four next year when we go undefeated for the second time in four years.
Hook ‘em!
Colby said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I enjoy how that douchebag sooner71 attempts an insult by degrading the pursuit of a graduate degree at a university ranked higher in every academic category than his little juco north of the red river.
TaylorTRoom said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
One thing that is very interesting in all of this is how Stoops’ and Brown’s reputations are shifting. When Stoops won his MNC with a bunch of over-achievers, he built a rep as a guy who could do more with less. Meanwhile, Brown’s rep was as a guy who could recruit great talent, but couldn’t win the big game with them.
Since then, OU has lost MNC and BCS games with a roster rivaled only by USC for blue chip recruits and future NFL players. Meanwhile, Texas has been beating him, with teams considered less talented.
If Stoops loses his bowl game, and Brown wins his, it will be hard to make an argument that Brown isn’t a better coach than Stoops.
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Gosh, you’ve got a point there, TaylorT.
Tell you what. How about we arrange a trade: you give us your last three victories in the RRSO in exchange for our last three Big XII Championships. Deal?
No . . . wait! I take that back! That wouldn’t be such a good trade AT ALL, would it?!?
Golly-gee, TaylorT, you almost had me there you sly dog!
Colby said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm
That is a good point TaylorT. Brown is now 4-6 against Stoops, but the trend has definitely shifted in Texas’ favor. With his more likable personality, his common people approach, and his uncanny ability to spot coaching as well as playing talent, I’d take Brown everyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Stoops and his pour it on approach. His bowl record is far superior, as OU’s choke jobs in its last four BCS bowls are maligning the conference’s reputation. You are one sly, perceptive dog my friend.
Colby said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
It’s like cards: I’d rather be better later than earlier.
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Colby,
You take my meaning too far. I was merely affirming the poignant comment of your esteemed university colleague that a “bound and gagged gimp” could indeed “sum up my thoughts succinctly.”
And I believe that. I really do. That gimp wouldn’t even need a prosthesis. He could have absolutely no physical therapy, in fact. And yet I’m sure he could still sum up my thoughts very adequately.
I mean, how can one let a salient comment like that go without a respectful nod of approval?
6xBig12Champ said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Well I was going to wait for Trips to post his earth shattering insider information on the imminent demise of the Sooner Nation, but I see the Whorn nation has quickly retreated into the typical we “we beat you” schtick. Guess what assholes, you did beat us. Congrats, I don’t think thats ever been disputed here. But we beat you by the rules set up by the Big 12 conference to play in the Big 12 championship and the MNC game. Suck on that polesmokers. If you makes you feel warm and fuzzy that the Sooners will have a Barry Bonds * by their 2008 Championship, by all means proclaim it as gospel for all of Texico to hear! The rest of the nation has long forgotten the plight of the pitiful Longhorn.
Still waiting Trips, blow me away…
TxTower said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
ulose,
The only thing that’s pointless are your remarks. Your OP was a rambling, incoherent, illogical mess. Whatever it was you were trying to accomplish, I’m afraid the only thing you have made “everyone aware of” is that you’re just another idiot sooner that couldn’t compete on “Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?”. Congratulations.
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Geez, Colby, you’re making some really good points about Coach Brown, and I’m kind of wanting to step back up to the trading table.
We’ll trade you Stoops, all six of his Big XII championships (including the currently running three-peat that is a sure sign of our fast-fading glory), and I’ll even throw in our spot in the National Championship game.
But it’s not going to come easy for you. You have to give us Coach Brown, both of his championships (yes, even that one in the ’90’s), and . . . (this one will hurt). . . you’ll have to throw in his early retirement package.
What do you say?
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
No! Wait! Stop the transaction!
You know, I’m going to have to start paying better attention around here! You guys are a tricky bunch.
ulose said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I’m not a fan of either OU or TX, so it really doesn’t matter to me. However, isn’t being in the BCS and losing better than not being there at all? Winning a regular bowl game is like making it to the Sweet 16–true it’s a good season, but not like making it to the Elite 8 or Final Four. Both Mack and Stoops are great coaches, but to discredit Stoops because he loses in the BCS is foolish. At the end of the day, he still has the same amount of BCS trophies as Mack. You gotta make it there before you can win them–winning Big 12 Championships guarantees you that chance. When OU lost to Boise St, they weren’t even good–Texas blew the last two games of the regular season to K-State and a terrible A&M team to send a weaker OU team to the Big 12 and BCS. But I guess Mack had a better season since he beat who cares? in the so what? bowl. 6 Big 12 Championships and 7 BCS appearances is pretty impressive…Once again, Texas is a great program, just looking at it without bias.
Hippie Killer said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Sooner71:
45-35.
Minnesotahorn said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
It’s amusing that you fellas include this year’s Big 12 Championship in your boasts. Who do you think you’re fooling? You didn’t earn the fucking thing. You know it. We know it. The American people know it. And yet you loudly trumpet the banner as if it’s not a self evident farce. Funny stuff.
Hippie Killer said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm
6xBig12Champ:
45-35.
It will never change. Ever. 45-35. On the day that your team played my team, we beat the shit out of you. 45-35.
You may be in the MNC, and kudos to you for getting there based on a technicality. No matter what you say, we still beat the fuck out of you bitches. 45-35. We’d be happy to do it again but you will have to wait until October of 2009.
HenryJames said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Loud noises!
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
ulose,
Be careful, you are about to take a bath in a pool of Horn profanity. If you are not here to post further idiotic drivel to growing pile of baseless accusations, then you’d best move along.
Coherent unbiased thought is not welcome here.
Hippie Killer said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This thread reminds me of this time my grandfather was telling me about the Great 36th “Texas” Division back in WWII.
A division consisting mainly of Texans with a few Oklahomans scattered in to act as “Support Troops”…mostly driving trucks, cooks, clerks, etc.
After the fight at the Rapido River in Italy the division was sent back for “Rest and Refit” and as the Division was moving back, the Oklahomans’ would move from the rear to the front and try to collect souvenirs.
Ahhh…fuck it. I can’t even go on.
You guys suck and you will never get back the 45-35 asshole raping we gave your football team, your parents, your daughters and your entire state in October. Next year will be the same ass raping with a sandpaper rubber and blood is not a lubricant. Be Ready!!!!
TxTower said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
ulose,
Since you are not a Sooner, you must be unaware that “Everyone Cheats!” is the de facto English translation of the phrase “Boomer Sooner!”. So you can see why I mistook you for one.
WWGDD said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Poor sooners must feel warm in here. It’s cold out there in their jorts or cargo shorts. Plus add crocs to the attire and Tony Casillas big collar and cuff shirts. Lastly a slathering of hair gel and out the door headed for uptown or Addison where the finest trash awaits. Sooner’s…they’re funny
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Stop!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!! No more!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I can see is 45-35.
45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.45-35.
It torments me without end.
If only I had something better to think about. Something that would take away the sting!!!
If only we had a third consecutive Big XII Championship to go with our other three to give us a total of six, or three times as many as anyone else in the league . . . then I would have something better to think about than that cursed 45-35.
Or perhaps if we had won a fifth Heisman Trophy, more than any other Big XII team . . . perhaps then I could get that blasted 45-35 “ringing” out of my ears.
Or maybe . . . and I’m sure this would really do the trick . . . if we could somehow find a way to play for our 8th National Championship, thus making our appearance in an unprecedented 4th BCS Championship in the last decade – then maybe, just maybe, I could forget that . . . that . . . that . . .
Hmmm. What were talking about, anyway?
PatronSaint said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:04 pm
This used to be an intelligent blog with witty posts. Then came the Sooners.
P.S. Please leave.
Hippie Killer said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
45-35.
You’ll never outrun it.
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Hippie,
If it means we’ll repeat this year’s results again and again, I’ll gladly bend over and pucker up my cornhole every year.
Bring it.
You see, assholes heal. But the pangs of “what might have been” linger . . . and linger . . . and linger. But I don’t have to tell you that, now, do I?
And so, while you are staring at empty hands – hands as empty as Blake Gideon’s in the deciding moments of must-have game, we’ll be carrying home our two newest trophies: one for the Big XII; and one for the BCS.
ulose said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Thanks Sooner71,
I’ll watch my back…Cussing to make a point is cool. It makes you want to read further because you know it’ll get so much better–the truth is, everyone on here thought they were going to be able to talk bad about another team without facts or good points interfering with the classless tirades. I kind of feel like I’m watching Mean Girls or something. I still never understood the head-to-head argument with a three-way tie, but then again I’m not wearing burnt orange colored glasses.
The one who really loses here is Chuck Norris–he’s the only guy who can have a 3-way with just one other person, right? Apparently not…
Dunstan Pearl said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Texico?
Sooner71 said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Witty comments, Patron, from your fellow horns?
Hmmm. Let’s see . . .
Were you referring to Hippie’s commments about sticking his sand-papered cock into the collective ass of the Sooner Nation?
Or was it perhaps Trips lucid references to the mental prowess of “bound and gagged” gimps?
Oh, I know – Colby’s exhortation for to me to go “fuck off” to another board – that must be one of the witty posts for which you’re longing, right.
Help me out, here. Really.
Hippie Killer said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Sooner71-
The storyline of your game against Florida will consist of a couple of things:
1- How your team was lucky enough to benefit from a screw job to Texas, by a flawed system. You’ve stated that this won’t bother you. In fact, it appears you seem to be getting off to it. Regardless. We beat you were it counts and your wife, daughter and sister all know where it counts. My Cock. And they love it.
2- Storyline #2. How much of a leader Tim Tebow is. Once Florida starts shredding your defense, the way a Texas Ranger shreds a sodomite Okie, the announcers won’t be able to help themselves and ask the obvious question: How in the fuck did Sam Bradford win the Heisman? What’s wrong with his eyes?
3- Sam Bradford’s heritage. Did you know he is 1/90th Cherokee Choctaw Indian despite that both his parents are White as my ass cheeks?
4- What if? About half-way through the 2nd quarter…after Florida scores their 5th Touchdown. The announcers will be asking themselves, “What if Texas had been allowed to play?”. The game everyone outside of Oklahomo that everybody wants to see.
5- Finally, last but not least: 45-35 …
RansomStoddard said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
It’s difficult to understand the mentality of Sooner fans like 71. They come on to this TEXAS LONGHORN blog and complain of being mistreated. What is there about ‘then go away’ they can’t comprehend? I don’t get it.
Facebook User said:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
This has become tedious.