Comments on: My (Fictitious) Heisman Ballot http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/ Texas Longhorns and sports Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:48:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: t1climb1 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31432 t1climb1 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:49:50 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31432 I agree completely Turk. I was listening to Colin Cowherd interview a reporter from SEC country and he asked him how in the world anyone could justify Tebow over Colt given that Colt has better statistics in pretty much every single category and has beaten more top 10 teams. The reporter admitted he voted Tebow number one and then went on to defend it by saying you could take Bradford off OU and they would have wone just as many games and yuo could take McCoy off Texas and they would be just as good. I stopped listening at that point. I agree completely Turk. I was listening to Colin Cowherd interview a reporter from SEC country and he asked him how in the world anyone could justify Tebow over Colt given that Colt has better statistics in pretty much every single category and has beaten more top 10 teams. The reporter admitted he voted Tebow number one and then went on to defend it by saying you could take Bradford off OU and they would have wone just as many games and yuo could take McCoy off Texas and they would be just as good. I stopped listening at that point.

]]> By: Turk 182 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31430 Turk 182 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:20:29 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31430 Sad truth is that Tebow was only on the list because of last year. Had zero to do with this year. It could be argued that McCoy was more valuable to his team than Bradford since he had no real running backs and no TE. Shipley and Crosby are solid but I would agree that Sam has the TE, the RB's, and the WR's to all support him. But I am not sure that in the history of Heisman voting, the most valuable person on the team is the typical winner. It is the best player on the best team (like it or not). It always goes that route. Although I am as biased to lean toward Sam as most of you are to lean toward McCoy, either one would have been fine. The fact that Tebow was in the discussion is just sickening. Sad truth is that Tebow was only on the list because of last year. Had zero to do with this year.
It could be argued that McCoy was more valuable to his team than Bradford since he had no real running backs and no TE. Shipley and Crosby are solid but I would agree that Sam has the TE, the RB’s, and the WR’s to all support him.
But I am not sure that in the history of Heisman voting, the most valuable person on the team is the typical winner. It is the best player on the best team (like it or not). It always goes that route.
Although I am as biased to lean toward Sam as most of you are to lean toward McCoy, either one would have been fine.
The fact that Tebow was in the discussion is just sickening.

]]> By: caradoc http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31422 caradoc Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:34:27 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31422 Every time I see that trophy I can't help thinking that since he's got his weight on his leg facing the defender and the other leg stretched out behind him, if he tries to stiff arm, he's just going to fall right over. Every time I see that trophy I can’t help thinking that since he’s got his weight on his leg facing the defender and the other leg stretched out behind him, if he tries to stiff arm, he’s just going to fall right over.

]]> By: turkey sub http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31412 turkey sub Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:10:43 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31412 "You can remove Mizzou and OSU from that list. Forever." Take OSU off what list? “You can remove Mizzou and OSU from that list.

Forever.”

Take OSU off what list?

]]> By: dusk till dawn http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31360 dusk till dawn Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:15:50 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31360 I dont think Harrell should have won it all, but he should have been at the ceremony at least. his numbers are really close to Bradford's and he definitely has less talent around him. The way he crumbled at OU was enough for him not to win it, but he did have a great year. oh, and crabtree is your dad. sorry to be the one to tell you. I dont think Harrell should have won it all, but he should have been at the ceremony at least. his numbers are really close to Bradford’s and he definitely has less talent around him. The way he crumbled at OU was enough for him not to win it, but he did have a great year.

oh, and crabtree is your dad. sorry to be the one to tell you.

]]> By: ponderos http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31317 ponderos Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:21:09 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31317 You can remove Mizzou and OSU from that list. Forever. You can remove Mizzou and OSU from that list.

Forever.

]]> By: t1climb1 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31315 t1climb1 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:55:42 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31315 <i>Texas Tech has been the only team in a decade to beat the #1 team and turn around the next week and beat a Top 10 team. </i> Tim, you do realize that you got both of those games at home right? That's why your schedule is viewed by sane and objective people as easier. As for your 4 game stretch you cite, your 4 were not as tough as our 4. See the side by side comparison to see what I mean: Texas Tech: at Kansas, Texas, Okie St, at OK Texas: OK (neutral), MO, Okie St, At Tech Tech played 2 of their 3 toughest games at home AND had a week off before their final test against OK (maybe you needed 2 weeks off).We had no week off and played our final game on the road in a hostile environment. As for the rest of your schedule do I really need to go into that? Graham Harrell had a great year no doubt and I take nothing away from him. Your team had a great season as well. Congrats and see you in Austin next year. Texas Tech has been the only team in a decade to beat the #1 team and turn around the next week and beat a Top 10 team.

Tim, you do realize that you got both of those games at home right? That’s why your schedule is viewed by sane and objective people as easier. As for your 4 game stretch you cite, your 4 were not as tough as our 4. See the side by side comparison to see what I mean:

Texas Tech: at Kansas, Texas, Okie St, at OK
Texas: OK (neutral), MO, Okie St, At Tech

Tech played 2 of their 3 toughest games at home AND had a week off before their final test against OK (maybe you needed 2 weeks off).We had no week off and played our final game on the road in a hostile environment.

As for the rest of your schedule do I really need to go into that?

Graham Harrell had a great year no doubt and I take nothing away from him. Your team had a great season as well. Congrats and see you in Austin next year.

]]> By: Billy Sims http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31308 Billy Sims Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:37:54 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31308 BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!! BOOMA!!

]]> By: Horn in Tyler http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31263 Horn in Tyler Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:42:00 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31263 Tim is Exhibit A that Tech fans are predatory, forever striving to be Texas. (Not beat Texas.) He'll be rubbing our noses in 11/1/08 until Tech loses in Austin next fall. I'm convinced he watches the game tape every night armed with a box of Kleenex. After he finishes the deed, he does a "horns down" as he cleans himself. It wasn't nature's way, but it makes Tim feel good. We all know that Tech will go back to its proper place of losing to Texas by 30+ (or is it 40+?) pts. on the road to a Top 10 team next year in Austin. Tim knows that fact better than anyone else. The real question is whether Tim will promise to finally leave once the universe has corrected itself. Hopefully, he won't be around that long. Tim is Exhibit A that Tech fans are predatory, forever striving to be Texas. (Not beat Texas.) He’ll be rubbing our noses in 11/1/08 until Tech loses in Austin next fall. I’m convinced he watches the game tape every night armed with a box of Kleenex. After he finishes the deed, he does a “horns down” as he cleans himself. It wasn’t nature’s way, but it makes Tim feel good.

We all know that Tech will go back to its proper place of losing to Texas by 30+ (or is it 40+?) pts. on the road to a Top 10 team next year in Austin. Tim knows that fact better than anyone else. The real question is whether Tim will promise to finally leave once the universe has corrected itself. Hopefully, he won’t be around that long.

]]> By: Bob in Houston http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2008/12/12/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot/comment-page-2/#comment-31257 Bob in Houston Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:46:29 +0000 http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/scipio-tex/my-fictitious-heisman-ballot#comment-31257 "By any means you wish to measure it Tech’s scheudle was less “cushy” than UT’s." Any measure other than yours appears to disagree. “By any means you wish to measure it Tech’s scheudle was less “cushy” than UT’s.”

Any measure other than yours appears to disagree.

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