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Sherman’s Shambles at College Station
Posted by EyesOfTX on October 20th, 2008 under Uncategorized
I know we have a few Aggie regulars here, so apologies to you guys, but I just find this to be amazing…
In this week’s Sagarin ranking system, Texas A&M ranks 110th.
Ahead of the Aggies in the rankings are…
- No fewer than 12 1-AA schools ( or whatever that division is called nowadays), including such traditional powers as Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, William and Mary, and Wofford;
- Louisiana Lafayette and Louisiana Tech;
- No fewer than 7 teams from the State of Texas, including Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Rice, Houston and UTEP;
- All eleven other schools who make up the Big 12;
- Every one of the newly-minted Florida Directional Schools, with Florida Atlantic being the nearest to the Ags at #101.
Now, we’ll all admit that the cupboard left behind by Fran was fairly bare, but was it really as bare as this? Is someone really going to try to tell me that A&M over the last four years has not recruited as well as William & Mary, Wofford and Rice? Is anyone really going to try to make the case that A&M has only the 8th best talent level in the State of Texas?
The Shermanator has really made a shambles of that football program in extremely short order. A poorly-trainted chimp couldn’t have done much more damage in a shorter period of time.
Hook ‘em!!!
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Travis,
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Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 6 hours, 37 minutes ago
colorado ag, Utah State is as athletic as Nebraska. You’ll be fine as long as they don’t go 16 for 31 from three.
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Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
Great article Scipio. Also, thanks for the dime.
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Scip, like a peaceful Indian in the 1800’s, I never trust a Mormon that can shoot. Utah State has me worried.
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 7 hours, 26 minutes ago
CJD -
Possibly. However, I’m telling you – the beauty of these intergame lines is that when you see that all-too-familiar big early game lead that you know will evaporate down the stretch as soon as the team starts regressing to their 3 point shooting mean, there’s some money to be made.
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 7 hours, 28 minutes ago
uthookem-
I’d say you have your priorities straight.
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Anytime. How far do you think the Aggies go? A lot of people think Utah State is the most dangerous pure shooting team in the tournament.
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Huckleberry said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:33 am
They really are historically bad. My ratings don’t have them quite as low, but I do have them behind 4 I-AA teams and 1 Division II team (Abilene Christian is very high in the ratings).
They are last in the Big 12 and behind the following Texas teams in my ratings: Texas, TCU, Texas Tech, Abilene Christian, Houston, Baylor, Rice, and UTEP. Also, they are currently the 7th worst Texas A&M team of all time, and the worst since 1913. This is the worst Aggie squad since the Great War started.
In other terrible BCS conference team news, this year’s Washington State Cougars are on pace to be the worst BCS conference team since the BCS started. Even more amazing than that, though, is that out of all the schools currently in BCS conferences, the 2008 Washington State Cougars would be the worst team from one of those schools since the 1967 Rutgers Scarlet Knights and would be the 14th worst team from any of those schools ever.
But USC got some love for kicking the crap out of them.
By the way, Massey also has Abilene Christian very high, they’re #50 in his ratings that use margin of victory. Sagarin doesn’t include them as they’re Division II.
Jeff said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:53 am
A&M seems to have success moving the ball. If their defense can muster an effort that falls short of stratospherically horrible, they might rise up on somebody.
BRAGGonUT said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:53 am
How many former Aggies are on that ACU team?
EyesOfTX said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Huck, that is just extraordinary. Truly amazing.
EyesOfTX said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Jeff: that’s a good point. Unfortunately for them, I think they’re maxing out at stratospherically horrible.
Huckleberry said:
October 20th, 2008 at 9:56 am
By the way, I knew Sherman was a lost cause (well, at least the last straw that made it impossible to believe otherwise) when he punted from the 50 with 5 minutes left down 11 points. Against Texas Tech. With a terrible defense.
There is only one chance to win that game at that point and it’s to go for it. I don’t really give a shit that it was 4th-and-16. Picking up 16 yards on a pass against Tech is a MUCH more likely scenario than any possible one that can lead to a win after punting right there.
Callkevin said:
October 20th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Bragg, I don’t see any obvious ones. Do you?
http://www.acusports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8900&SPID=3615&SPSID=40870
HenryJames said:
October 20th, 2008 at 10:10 am
No Aggies, but I do see Billy Don Malone, Colt McCoy’s brother and Bucky Godbolt’s son.
UTHornFan014 said:
October 20th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Hey man… Don’t be so hard on aggy. I mean c’mon… They held real Army to only 4 passing yards!
Have we held anyone to 4 passing yards this season??? I think not!
BRAGGonUT said:
October 20th, 2008 at 10:33 am
No Aggies per my look see, but Graham Harrell’s brother is there too.
Ag_in_TX said:
October 20th, 2008 at 10:56 am
You gotta understand, we’ve been drinking.
A lot.
Often, before noon.
The Source said:
October 20th, 2008 at 11:00 am
aTm has many traditions, winning just happens not to be one of them.
ChrisApplewhite said:
October 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
They have some decent skill players on offense. Jeff Fuller in particular is really promising.
JJ is tough to bring down. That’s about as nice a thing as I can say.
They just suck everywhere else. It’s unbelievable how bad a team with that much money and willpower can be so bad. How does that even happen? It’s been 10 years now since they had a good team.
ChrisApplewhite said:
October 20th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Oh, I forgot Goodson. He’s still good. Not sure what he is still doing there. If I was him I’d play out this year at SHSU or something then go pro.
sinless1 said:
October 20th, 2008 at 11:18 am
I will openly mock the aggies for football ineptitude when we beat them again. Until then, I will secretly mock them.
WhoooTex said:
October 20th, 2008 at 11:38 am
“By the way, I knew Sherman was a lost cause … when he punted from the 50 with 5 minutes left down 11 points.”
NFL coaching background HOLLA
Ag_in_TX said:
October 20th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
OK, seriously.
What you are seeing at A&M is what happens when you are not playing well in the trenches. Most games are won and lost there.
Our Offensive line is young. The guys who are not young are inept. This recipe may sound familiar to you gentlemen and our results are even worse than y’alls were last year.
I like JJ, but Tommy Dorman is the QB of the future. He is a proto WCO guy. JJ is like VY in the fact that (1) he’s black and (2) he’s tall. It pretty much ends there and hence JJ has as much in common with VY as Hakeem Olojuwon does.
Goodson is very good – but not good enough to suceed behind that line. Cyrus Gray and Jeff Fuller are young skill position players to build around.
Our defense only has three guys I think you can build around – Featherston, Von Miller and Arkeith Brown. I’d throw the rest out.
Yeah, Fran lef the cupboard way bare.
Gobble Gobble said:
October 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
That Tannehill guy is kind of nifty for a big white ex-QB.
Dave Bowman said:
October 20th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Everyone points at Fran, but how is Sherman recruiting any better than Fran?
R.C. said:
October 20th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Does ChrisApplewhite’s One Year Rule offer any hope for the Ags in the future?
steven said:
October 20th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Evidently, from the looks of this season, you can recruit worse than Fran did over the past few years. Probably the Ags are reaping the results of Fran just being in CS to collect his checks and not really giving a crap about the true state of the football team. That is the only explanation for how bad the Ags are this year, although there maybe other factors.
If it makes you Ags feel any better, this Horn, who is considered to be the village idiot over here, believes you all will get back to respectiblity in quick order. Hell, with the D in this conference, scoring is a given. And so it is really a matter of recruiting on the D side of the ball. You guys already have a great and proven D coordinator. Now you just need the players. Shouldn’t take more than a season or two.
EyesOfTX said:
October 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Self awareness is a fine attribute to possess.
Objective Aggie said:
October 20th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
My only issue with believing we will get out of the gutter is that Kines thought he was retired before coming here. I don’t think he’ll even stick past 2009, and we’ll have yet another DC. I haven’t seen any young defensive players playing well at all and the recruiting is not impressive.
Honestly, I feel Sherman has already worsened the damage done by Franchione and worse yet, he’s entrenched with a fat 7 year contract.
Hope I’m wrong, but I think it will stay bad (can’t really get worse) next year before it gets better. 2010 maybe?
RansomStoddard said:
October 20th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Oh man I hope they don’t beat us again this year.
Village Idiot said:
October 21st, 2008 at 5:33 am
I’m offended, steven.
steven said:
October 21st, 2008 at 5:40 am
the recruiting is not impressive.
As long as they are players your staff believes can play well at the Div I level that is all that matters. So far at least, recruit rankings tend to be overrated and they end up ignoring and missing on a lot of players.
Pryor at OSU will probably never be able to throw a decent college level pass. He was totally overrated and Griffin at BU will turn out to be significantly better player than him. Griffin already is better actually right out of the box and he was ranked as the 36th or so best QB while Pryor was #1. It would have been more accurate if those ratings were reversed.
Scott at CU seems as if he will never amount to being anything special. Stewart beat him out and seems to be way better and he was only the 150th or so ranked RB.
So you see, rankings aren’t all they are cracked up to be. They have some degree of accuracy and relevance, but not to the point where you want to base the future of your program on them.
South '06 said:
October 21st, 2008 at 6:30 am
I don’t disagree that the program is bottomed-out. You will get no argument here.
But just to point it out, the Sagarin rankings don’t imply that we wouldn’t beat Wofford and William & Mary head-to-head. They imply that we have done worse against “our level” of competition than those programs have done against “their level” of competition.
Huckleberry said:
October 21st, 2008 at 7:14 am
South -
You’re wrong about that. The Sagarin ratings list teams in their true order. However, your predictor rating is higher than Wofford. On a neutral field, Sagarin’s ratings say that A&M should be a 4.5-point underdog to William & Mary and a 1.5-point favorite over Wofford.
The General said:
October 21st, 2008 at 7:35 am
Say what you want about Bill & Mary, but they were a righteous couple in the 17th Century
WhoooTex said:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:24 am
“Pryor at OSU will probably never be able to throw a decent college level pass. ”
See, actually, he’s already done that a few times this year, so you’re an idiot.
steven said:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:42 am
See, actually, he’s already done that a few times this year, so you’re an idiot.
Don’t think he has. I admit, he has thrown some passes that were completions, but that does not mean they were Div. I level throws. I watched some of the OSU/MSU game. Pryor has as bad of throwing mechanics as I have ever seen at a big time college program. Much, much worse than VY when he first got here. If OSU believes that Pryor is their savior or the second coming of VY, I will say, right now, that they better get ready to be very disappointed, cause he will never live up to the hype, just like Scott up at CU.
And I don’t think his issues are correctable. His problems in throwing are probably similar to Shaq’s with free throws. It is one that cannot be fixed. Pryor probably lacks the touch and wrists action to ever be an effective passer.
Whooo Tex, just sit down and go watch the OSU/PSU game and then get back to me and tell me who the “idiot” is. For some reason, I have a feeling you will fail to do so.
steven said:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:44 am
Oh, and if it makes you Ags feel better, I genuinely believe that you guys could beat both William & Mary and Wofford in a squeaker at Kyle Field. Just call me an Aggie sympathizer or homer, but that is how I see it.
steven said:
October 21st, 2008 at 9:24 am
Pryor would be better off if he bulked up and moved off to TE, for his sake and that of OSU. Due to his sheer athleticism, he can probably get away being a QB at the college level, but he will never excel there, at least not against good competition. At TE, he could potentially make it into the league, but, I suspect, that his fat head and his B.S. #1 ranking are going to prevent him from making the right move.
WhoooTex said:
October 21st, 2008 at 11:47 am
“I admit, he has thrown some passes that were completions, but that does not mean they were Div. I level throws. I watched some of the OSU/MSU game.”
I don’t know what to tell you if you didn’t see Div. I level throws from Pryor in every game in which he’s played. They were there. Even against Purdue, a game in which Ohio State tried to again set offense back 50 years.
Maybe you should watch more football. It’s the sport with the helmets and 11 guys on each side? Guys try to advance an oblong sphere across the opponents’ goal line to score a ‘touchdown’…? Any of this sounding familiar?
Dr. Moreau said:
October 21st, 2008 at 11:50 am
Pryor would be better off if he allowed me to experiment on him and turn him into Beast Folk as I have successfully done so many times before
steven said:
October 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Whoo Tex, maybe he has, but he sure didn’t do so against MSU and that’s the game I watched. Don’t see why his throws would have been different for just that game. He threw some of the ugliest ducks I have ever seen in that game.
Like I said, just go ahead watch the OSU/PSU game. Just watch those ducks of his fall helplessly to ground or get INT’d against the PSU D. OSU is gonna get beat and it is not because PSU is worth a damn. Pryor, in anything resembling big games, will suck for the entirety of his career at OSU. Just get back to me after the game. If I am wrong, I’ll be around to get my comeuppance.
Aggie Lurking said:
October 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Don’t hijack our sympathy post and turn it into a Big Ten discussion. We need all the pity we have earned thus far this year. (I do have this hallucination of McGee taking the reins one last time on Turkey Day and completing the Trifecta. Peyote is a good thing)
Shockthenation said:
October 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
“(I do have this hallucination of McGee taking the reins one last time on Turkey Day and completing the Trifecta.”
Good God if that happens this year I may murder someone.
Nordberg said:
October 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
“Whoo Tex, maybe he has, but he sure didn’t do so against MSU and that’s the game I watched.”
Please tell me, after making that absurd claim, that you’ve seen OSU play more than once this year.
Ag_in_TX said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:32 am
I’m thinking we beat the dog-f**k outta Wofford, no matter where we play ‘em. (And it’s freakin’ sad I even have to post that).
As an aside, dark rumors out of the program that Godson’s injury is a little worse than is being advertised. You guys may have hope if your Kryptonite cannot play.
T-Bone Pick Pocket said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
Please tell me, after making that absurd claim, that you’ve seen OSU play more than once this year.
Hey, Ags, I’ll give you guys a sympathy post and something to hang your hat on. No matter how bad your team maybe, at least your fan base isn’t full of liberal, ghey ass, pseudo-logical hippies like this guy above, even though it maybe full of kool-aid drinking, red-neck dumbasses. But, hell, give me red-neck, kool aid drinking dumbasses anyday over the wishy washy, spineless, jelly fish of a man this guy seems to signify.
Hey, d*ckhead, just how many times do you have to watch someone throw to figure out that he can’t throw worth a shat. And for you that would be translated thus: how many times do you have to take up your hinnie before you figure out your a ghey ass homo? Now that would be a lingo and scenario I am sure someone like you could comprehend and relate with.
Look, just sit your ghey and stupid ass down along with Whoo Tex and go watch the PSU/OSU game and watch all the ducks Pryor throws. And if he can go out and throw a decent pass in that game, then, yes, I will take and accept that “absurd” label of yours, but, until then, you’re the duffuss mofo for thinking that you have to watch the entirety of a whole f*ckin’ season to finally figure out that the boy has hands of stone and can’t throw worth a lick. Look, I figure throwing is sort of like walking, either you can do it or you just f*cking can’t. Tell me, how and why is that “absurd”?
You my reasonable sounding friend, to me, are an example of and evidence that just because you sound reasonable, rational, mental stable, it sure as hell doesn’t mean that you are.
Huckleberry said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
You my reasonable sounding friend, to me, are an example of and evidence that just because you sound reasonable, rational, mental stable, it sure as hell doesn’t mean that you are.
What does it mean when someone sounds unreasonable, irrational, and mentally unstable?
BrickHorn said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
I like how steven switched his username for the purpose of making a joke comment attached to a different article, and then forgot to switch it back before jumping back into his own personal fights on this thread. Fucking amateur.
Walter Sobchak said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 am
Fucking amateur.
You’re entering a world of pain.
BrickHorn said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Fucking amateur.
You’re entering a world of pain.
Sorry, didn’t mean to steal your line.
(See how easy that was?)
EyesOfTX said:
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
“(I do have this hallucination of McGee taking the reins one last time on Turkey Day and completing the Trifecta.”
Good God if that happens this year I may murder someone.
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I murdered the guy sitting next to me just because I read that.