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		<title>By: Trent Villarreal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Villarreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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		<title>By: Habbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ojnab Bob, the entire first paragraph of this blog pretty much invites SEC fans to show up and educate Mr. BRAGGonUT on the realities of college football. 

It would be best if we waited until December, but then there would be no mystery and hostility because all of the answers would be revealed! =)

I do believe that as the season progresses and injuries begin to mount we will definitely notice the lack of team depth in every conference aside from the SEC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ojnab Bob, the entire first paragraph of this blog pretty much invites SEC fans to show up and educate Mr. BRAGGonUT on the realities of college football. </p>
<p>It would be best if we waited until December, but then there would be no mystery and hostility because all of the answers would be revealed! =)</p>
<p>I do believe that as the season progresses and injuries begin to mount we will definitely notice the lack of team depth in every conference aside from the SEC.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I do agree with you re Tennessee - they should beat UCLA 98 times out of 100.  Their season so far is puzzling, although they apparently played more to their potential today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I do agree with you re Tennessee &#8211; they should beat UCLA 98 times out of 100.  Their season so far is puzzling, although they apparently played more to their potential today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habbit, I don&#039;t recall posting any pro-Big 12 taunts on a SEC football discussion site.  While how we got here is strange, I guess we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree on the relative merits of Oklahoma-Auburn, Bob Stoops&#039; egglaying in BCS games notwithstanding.  I do believe OU would win by 14-17 on a neutral field over Auburn and would beat Vanderbilt by 28-31.  Texas certainly handled the Hogs at least as easily as Alabama.

It&#039;s hard to say how good Missouri is right now... they may be good, great or 1988 Oklahoma State redux (great o, terrible D). 

Perhaps this debate is best tabled for resumption in December, when the season has played itself out and we&#039;ll have more facts relevant to this season to discuss.  I don&#039;t see us getting anywhere here until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habbit, I don&#8217;t recall posting any pro-Big 12 taunts on a SEC football discussion site.  While how we got here is strange, I guess we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree on the relative merits of Oklahoma-Auburn, Bob Stoops&#8217; egglaying in BCS games notwithstanding.  I do believe OU would win by 14-17 on a neutral field over Auburn and would beat Vanderbilt by 28-31.  Texas certainly handled the Hogs at least as easily as Alabama.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say how good Missouri is right now&#8230; they may be good, great or 1988 Oklahoma State redux (great o, terrible D). </p>
<p>Perhaps this debate is best tabled for resumption in December, when the season has played itself out and we&#8217;ll have more facts relevant to this season to discuss.  I don&#8217;t see us getting anywhere here until then.</p>
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		<title>By: Habbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...that is pretty irritating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;that is pretty irritating.</p>
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		<title>By: Habbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ojnab Bob, I do, and I&#039;m surprised you would pick Oklahoma to represent your post as they are decidedly biggest choke artists of this decade. 

Vanderbilt has always had good teams and talented players and their schedule is just as tough as Oklahoma and Texas&#039;... yet they are only decent team in the SEC, whereas the Sooners and Longhorns are at the very top. 

As far as Tennessee goes, they have potential and talent out of this world... I have no idea why they have been so awful this year. I&#039;m sure you could agree with that, as well. 

Auburn would humiliate Oklahoma. The former National oh-my-God-they-are-freaking-monsters Champions were only able to score 26 points on the Tiger&#039;s defense, while they scored 41 in their two previous games, and Oklahoma looks like a practice squad compared to LSU. 

Do you seriously believe that mighty Oklahoma really would dominate this year&#039;s Auburn squad? None of your statements have been supported with any rational evidence. 

You also seem to have read two or three sentences from my previous post; you should de-emphasize that in the future. I mentioned Hawaii twice: once in my first post and once in my second, was there any reason for you to bring them up again?

I would appreciate it if you responded to my statements, rather than complain about the way I reply to your grossly inaccurate statements. You pleasantly ignore the fact that I have agreed that Missouri is a good football team and I also have no problem with any school from the Big 12; I actually enjoy watching Texas and Oklahoma play. I was born in Colorado, and one of my best friends plays for Nebraska. It&#039;s the &#039;overwrought chest-beating&#039; of Big 12 fans whose conference has had ONE good season as a WHOLE conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ojnab Bob, I do, and I&#8217;m surprised you would pick Oklahoma to represent your post as they are decidedly biggest choke artists of this decade. </p>
<p>Vanderbilt has always had good teams and talented players and their schedule is just as tough as Oklahoma and Texas&#8217;&#8230; yet they are only decent team in the SEC, whereas the Sooners and Longhorns are at the very top. </p>
<p>As far as Tennessee goes, they have potential and talent out of this world&#8230; I have no idea why they have been so awful this year. I&#8217;m sure you could agree with that, as well. </p>
<p>Auburn would humiliate Oklahoma. The former National oh-my-God-they-are-freaking-monsters Champions were only able to score 26 points on the Tiger&#8217;s defense, while they scored 41 in their two previous games, and Oklahoma looks like a practice squad compared to LSU. </p>
<p>Do you seriously believe that mighty Oklahoma really would dominate this year&#8217;s Auburn squad? None of your statements have been supported with any rational evidence. </p>
<p>You also seem to have read two or three sentences from my previous post; you should de-emphasize that in the future. I mentioned Hawaii twice: once in my first post and once in my second, was there any reason for you to bring them up again?</p>
<p>I would appreciate it if you responded to my statements, rather than complain about the way I reply to your grossly inaccurate statements. You pleasantly ignore the fact that I have agreed that Missouri is a good football team and I also have no problem with any school from the Big 12; I actually enjoy watching Texas and Oklahoma play. I was born in Colorado, and one of my best friends plays for Nebraska. It&#8217;s the &#8216;overwrought chest-beating&#8217; of Big 12 fans whose conference has had ONE good season as a WHOLE conference.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habiit, I don&#039;t think there is any debate that the SEC has been the best conference in college football this decade, and I actually agree with many of your points.  I also agree that the SEC probably is the best again this season, although 1) the season is still young, and 2) the gap has narrowed.  

I think my objection is to some of your more incendiary suggestions: &quot;Of the twelve teams in the Big 12, two (Oklahoma and Texas) have a remotely possible competing chance with the top and middle SEC teams.&quot;  Do you seriously believe that mighty Vanderbilt, Tennessee or even Auburn really would dominate this year&#039;s Oklahama squad?  That statement is just hard to support with any rational evidence.

You also seem to be placing an inordinate amount of weight on a victory over a Hawaii team organized as if it was a touch-football team; I might de-emphasize that in the future.

My last point would be to encourage you to moderate your message a bit.  All this overwrought SEC chest-beating has a way of alienating otherwise objective fans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habiit, I don&#8217;t think there is any debate that the SEC has been the best conference in college football this decade, and I actually agree with many of your points.  I also agree that the SEC probably is the best again this season, although 1) the season is still young, and 2) the gap has narrowed.  </p>
<p>I think my objection is to some of your more incendiary suggestions: &#8220;Of the twelve teams in the Big 12, two (Oklahoma and Texas) have a remotely possible competing chance with the top and middle SEC teams.&#8221;  Do you seriously believe that mighty Vanderbilt, Tennessee or even Auburn really would dominate this year&#8217;s Oklahama squad?  That statement is just hard to support with any rational evidence.</p>
<p>You also seem to be placing an inordinate amount of weight on a victory over a Hawaii team organized as if it was a touch-football team; I might de-emphasize that in the future.</p>
<p>My last point would be to encourage you to moderate your message a bit.  All this overwrought SEC chest-beating has a way of alienating otherwise objective fans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Habbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ojnab Bob, I don&#039;t forgive you, because you&#039;re purposely giving us statistics during Golden Years of your favorite school to the down years of the SEC counterparts. Are you honestly copy/pasting scores from 1980? 

12/27/2002 Mississippi 27 - Nebraska 23 Independence Bowl
01/01/2007 Auburn 17 - Nebraska 14 
Cotton Bowl

Not exactly blowouts, but the first team they lost to was Ole Miss who, until recently, playing was considered the same thing as having a bye-week. SEC 2, Nebraska 0 in the 21st century. I&#039;m sure the trend will continue.
 
All that and my first post never even mentioned a specific non-SEC schools&#039; mild success against the Southeastern Conference; I called out every other conference out as a whole! 

The fact of the matter is, in our current time period (have to mention that so you don&#039;t reminisce about the Glory Days), the top-tier SEC (Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, and now Alabama) and middle-of-the-pack SEC teams (Vanderbilt, Tennessee, and South Carolina) will consistently destroy any top-tier teams in any other conference and the scraps of the SEC (Ole Miss, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Kentucky) could become top-tier competitors in any other conference if they were to switch. 

Of the twelve teams in the Big 12, two (Oklahoma and Texas) have a remotely possible competing chance with the top and middle SEC teams, but we&#039;ve seen in the RECENT past that they are likely to turn out to be pathetic choke artists. Missouri is still on the fence, as it&#039;s very possible they will become garbage again after Chase Daniel graduates. 

Your conference, as of now, has four teams in the top 10, but only one of those teams (Missouri) has played anyone other than a high school girls soccer team, although Oklahoma does play #24 TCU (hahaha) tonight. Georgia whipped PAC-10 opponents, ASU, and has the toughest schedule in the nation, as they play FIVE currently ranked teams, who ALL happen to be SEC teams. Florida slaughtered last year&#039;s Sugar Bowl contenders Hawaii (who were also slaughtered by an SEC team in that game) and they destroyed two other teams with a legacy of winning: Miami and Tennessee. LSU has already played a ranked team; Auburn, former #10, who lost to the National Champions. Alabama wasted a ranked Clemson team who was supposed to dominate college football this year and they play the #3 ranked, but most talented football team in college football, tonight. 

It&#039;s sad the question of the best conference is being asked... this question would be considered a joke if any other conference had won the last two national titles and had half of the top 10 teams in their conference! At least let the Big 12 get to .500 in BCS National Championship Games (they&#039;re 2-3) before you start pulling out your dick! 

And for my last point, Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese said it best, &quot;You remember a couple of years ago people were saying the SEC is down? I laughed at that. I mean, to think, I don&#039;t know what being down in the SEC means. You don&#039;t send 20 players to the NFL? You send 10?&quot; 

If you&#039;re the best conference in college football, you don&#039;t send only four players in the first round of draft to the NFL, you send eleven players. Guess who sent who? 

No need to run to the alter too quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ojnab Bob, I don&#8217;t forgive you, because you&#8217;re purposely giving us statistics during Golden Years of your favorite school to the down years of the SEC counterparts. Are you honestly copy/pasting scores from 1980? </p>
<p>12/27/2002 Mississippi 27 &#8211; Nebraska 23 Independence Bowl<br />
01/01/2007 Auburn 17 &#8211; Nebraska 14<br />
Cotton Bowl</p>
<p>Not exactly blowouts, but the first team they lost to was Ole Miss who, until recently, playing was considered the same thing as having a bye-week. SEC 2, Nebraska 0 in the 21st century. I&#8217;m sure the trend will continue.</p>
<p>All that and my first post never even mentioned a specific non-SEC schools&#8217; mild success against the Southeastern Conference; I called out every other conference out as a whole! </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is, in our current time period (have to mention that so you don&#8217;t reminisce about the Glory Days), the top-tier SEC (Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, and now Alabama) and middle-of-the-pack SEC teams (Vanderbilt, Tennessee, and South Carolina) will consistently destroy any top-tier teams in any other conference and the scraps of the SEC (Ole Miss, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Kentucky) could become top-tier competitors in any other conference if they were to switch. </p>
<p>Of the twelve teams in the Big 12, two (Oklahoma and Texas) have a remotely possible competing chance with the top and middle SEC teams, but we&#8217;ve seen in the RECENT past that they are likely to turn out to be pathetic choke artists. Missouri is still on the fence, as it&#8217;s very possible they will become garbage again after Chase Daniel graduates. </p>
<p>Your conference, as of now, has four teams in the top 10, but only one of those teams (Missouri) has played anyone other than a high school girls soccer team, although Oklahoma does play #24 TCU (hahaha) tonight. Georgia whipped PAC-10 opponents, ASU, and has the toughest schedule in the nation, as they play FIVE currently ranked teams, who ALL happen to be SEC teams. Florida slaughtered last year&#8217;s Sugar Bowl contenders Hawaii (who were also slaughtered by an SEC team in that game) and they destroyed two other teams with a legacy of winning: Miami and Tennessee. LSU has already played a ranked team; Auburn, former #10, who lost to the National Champions. Alabama wasted a ranked Clemson team who was supposed to dominate college football this year and they play the #3 ranked, but most talented football team in college football, tonight. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad the question of the best conference is being asked&#8230; this question would be considered a joke if any other conference had won the last two national titles and had half of the top 10 teams in their conference! At least let the Big 12 get to .500 in BCS National Championship Games (they&#8217;re 2-3) before you start pulling out your dick! </p>
<p>And for my last point, Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese said it best, &#8220;You remember a couple of years ago people were saying the SEC is down? I laughed at that. I mean, to think, I don&#8217;t know what being down in the SEC means. You don&#8217;t send 20 players to the NFL? You send 10?&#8221; </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re the best conference in college football, you don&#8217;t send only four players in the first round of draft to the NFL, you send eleven players. Guess who sent who? </p>
<p>No need to run to the alter too quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojnab Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ojnab Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habbit, before the Fall of the Husker Empire in 2002, I recall routinely manhandling the SEC champions in our bowl game 7 times in a row from 1980-2000... ancient history at this point to everyone else, I imagine, but you&#039;ll forgive me for not prostrating myself at the altar of the holy SEC.

2000/01/02  Nebraska         31  -  Tennessee        21 W    Fiesta Bowl

1998/01/02  Nebraska         42  -  Tennessee        17 W    Orange Bowl

1996/01/02  Nebraska         62  -  Florida          24 W    Fiesta Bowl

1987/01/01  Nebraska         30  -  LSU              15 W    Sugar Bowl

1985/01/01  Nebraska         28  -  LSU              10 W    Sugar Bowl

1983/01/01  Nebraska         21  -  LSU              20 W    Orange Bowl

1980/12/27  Nebraska         31  -  Mississippi St   17 W    Sun Bowl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habbit, before the Fall of the Husker Empire in 2002, I recall routinely manhandling the SEC champions in our bowl game 7 times in a row from 1980-2000&#8230; ancient history at this point to everyone else, I imagine, but you&#8217;ll forgive me for not prostrating myself at the altar of the holy SEC.</p>
<p>2000/01/02  Nebraska         31  &#8211;  Tennessee        21 W    Fiesta Bowl</p>
<p>1998/01/02  Nebraska         42  &#8211;  Tennessee        17 W    Orange Bowl</p>
<p>1996/01/02  Nebraska         62  &#8211;  Florida          24 W    Fiesta Bowl</p>
<p>1987/01/01  Nebraska         30  &#8211;  LSU              15 W    Sugar Bowl</p>
<p>1985/01/01  Nebraska         28  &#8211;  LSU              10 W    Sugar Bowl</p>
<p>1983/01/01  Nebraska         21  &#8211;  LSU              20 W    Orange Bowl</p>
<p>1980/12/27  Nebraska         31  &#8211;  Mississippi St   17 W    Sun Bowl</p>
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		<title>By: Habbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting old. Please stop hyping up your non-SEC teams, Big 10, Big 12, WAC, whatever because each year the SEC blows out and embarrasses your teams in bowl games. 

You are right: Missouri and Chase Daniels have been looking really good so far... Then again, Hawaii and Colt Brennan were supposed to lose a very close game to Georgia. ... ... ... Buahahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting old. Please stop hyping up your non-SEC teams, Big 10, Big 12, WAC, whatever because each year the SEC blows out and embarrasses your teams in bowl games. </p>
<p>You are right: Missouri and Chase Daniels have been looking really good so far&#8230; Then again, Hawaii and Colt Brennan were supposed to lose a very close game to Georgia. &#8230; &#8230; &#8230; Buahahaha!</p>
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