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UTEP Wrap Up

Posted by Scipio Tex on September 9th, 2008 under Football

I had an opportunity to rewatch the game against UTEP on DVR and had a few thoughts to share, a couple of which challenged some assumptions I’d made when watching the game live from a sports bar in Anchorage, AK. The film doesn’t lie though, so away we go…

Offense:

First, Greg Davis did just fine as a playcaller. Clearly that’s only part of the equation as the overall structure of our offense and our running game is my primary issue with him, but that’s not changing and I’m evaluating within the construct of what we are. UTEP spent 80% of the game outnumbering us in the running game and frankly, given the limited scope of our running game, I was more than content to spread them out and make them pay for putting their corners on islands. In the stream. We were incredibly productive in the passing game, particularly when you consider UTEP had 4 pass interference penalties. I don’t care about balance when a team tips their hand on defense. If a team plays six in the box against us, I hope we run the ball 59 times.

Colt McCoy’s overall polish in the offense is no newsflash to any of you if you watched the game, but he still has one very bad habit that will cause us some problems against quality opponents. Dude still sacks himself. For an example of what I mean, take a look at the 8:36 mark of the 3rd quarter. UTEP brings the house while doubling Cosby, who is Colt’s first read. Our other two WRs are operating one-on-one with nary a safety in sight. We handle the pressure and Colt – not seeing his first option open – decides to sprint to the left out of a perfectly formed pocket and into the arms of a guy Ogbonnaya had just blocked off to the outside. Had he waited half a second more with his feet planted, he would have seen a meadow of green turf with two WRs manned up right in front of his face. All he had to do was step up in the pocket and he would have had a long completion or a 20 yard scramble. This may be nitpicking given his tremendous performance, but it’s still important. Teams like OU, Mizzou and KU will notice this tendency and given their upgraded cornerbacks vis a vis UTEP, I think they’re comfortable taking their chances with our guys down the field, outnumbering the run, and then forcing Colt to make disciplined pocket throws.

There are two truths about Fozzy and Vondrell. First, Fozzy is a more talented back. Second, he ran in much more favorable situations. When we went up 14-6 after two consecutive all passing drives, UTEP backed off a bit on the kamikaze shit. Before that happened, Vondrell’s first four runs were against fronts where they had at least one extra man and they were slanting their line in anticipation of our zone play. They guessed correctly on 4 of Vondrell’s 6 carries. He had only one run against an honest front all game. Two of his six carries resulted in a defensive penalty – a facemask and an offsides. Fozzy ran very well (his three yard runs where he stuck it in there rather than bounce around were more impressive than his longer runs) but he also faced an honest front on half of his carries after we opened them up with the passing game. That impacts outcomes. Vondrell is a solid back, but ill-suited for our 11 offense.

Defense:

We were actually quite vanilla all game. Very little blitzing, primarily 3-4 man rushes. We blitzed a few times with mixed results. Vittatoe was a mobile QB and Price did a great job with moving pockets, screens, and quick throws to prevent big negative plays. A more experienced secondary could have tightened up and jumped some of those throws, but we’re not there yet. I was largely unimpressed with our DE play.

I was most impressed with Miller, Muckelroy, Chykie Brown, and Gideon. Miller asserted himself over time and created real problems inside for UTEP. Muck was everywhere and he scooped the score. Chykie was very solid, the bullshit pass interference call notwithstanding. Gideon just gets it and he plays with intensity. He has some physical deficiencies, but at least he’s in the right zip code. The Acho brothers were limited in game action but I liked what I saw.

Jared Norton/Rashad Bobino and Aaron Lewis were almost completely responsible for UTEP’s running game. Rashad continues to play a stunting guessing game. He picks a gap and runs through it praying it’s the right one. Norton is actually less athletic than when he first arrived here and missed three tackles in the first ten minutes of the first half. Hopefully, he’s on his way to benching a lot though. That’s the mark of a player.

Jared Norton, Rashad Bobino and Brian Orakpo are great examples of all that’s wrong with our S&C program. They’ve actually lost quickness and change of direction the longer they’ve been in the program. Care to see a contrast? Watch the Acho brothers, who can’t lift shit yet, but are operators in space and have great quickness. Remember skinny ass Derrick Johnson? Do I need to show you the ‘91 Cotton Bowl? Football is not a fucking pie eating contest. I can’t wait for Sam to bench 500 and lose 3/10ths off of his shuttle time in our quest to improve him. Orakpo will actually be a better pass rusher as the season progresses and he’s not able to lift and begins to lose weight. In fact, I guarantee it. When people marvel that he can bench 515, my first thought is “Why does he bench 500+?” Those returns diminish very quickly after 425. They come at a cost in other areas. Go watch Orakpo film as a freshman – that kid had a first step. This Orakpo is a pure power rusher right now. If we want to play Muschamp defense, we need Muschamp players. And those players are greyhounds, not bulldogs.

We also need Lamarr Houston back. He’s strong enough to hold up in there and he can shoot gaps effectively and wreak havoc on the fatbodies. UTEP’s best runs were when they doubled Aaron Lewis and the trail of his obliteration cut off all of the backside pursuit. The unblocked LB – either Norton or Bobino – whiffed, sprinted the wrong gap, or guessed wrong – leaving Muckelroy and Blake Gideon to pick up the pieces. We also played the run very honestly, choosing to let our child safeties take a nice look at the offense unfolding in front of them from the perch of two deep. I don’t blame Muschamp for that at all.

Special Teams:

Good punting, good kicking, nice to see Akina back running our punt block teams. We continue to play Shipley on KOR and it drives me insane.

Your thoughts?

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Please read more pregame and postgame coverage on the Texas / UTEP match-up from EyesofTX, HenryJames, ChrisApplewhite, and Fake Ken Tremendous.

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  1. My thoughts? That guy getting the handjob up on top of the rocks probably enjoyed the game more than any of us.

  2. Interesting take on Bobino. I only had a chance to watch a replay of your first game, but they didn’t show any defensive plays. I’ve been curious to see what you guys look like. Bobino suffers from Victor Hunter disease. Since they’re effectively not quick enough to play 2 gap technique, they must commit to one gap and hope they’re right. Hunter guesses right at about a 65/35 rate and can’t cover shit. With Duncan, I haven’t been as excited about a Tech MLB since Zach Thomas. He’s not that good, but we’ve got something to be excited about. Duncan stood up very well in his first real test against that Pistol triple option. Crap, I didn’t mean to hijack this thing, just got to rambling.

  3. Expensive Golf Sux said:

    September 10th, 2008 at 4:25 am

    This is very good. I wish the coaches would read this shit and act accordingly.

  4. You’re right on about strength and conditioning, not just in our program, but at a lot of places. These kids get so much bad advice. They ‘bulk up’ which reduces power-to-weight ratio. Power-to-weight ratio is key. You don’t have to be a bulky guy to be strong and have leverage. Also, a lot of these guys inadvertently train their slow twitch muscle fibers to the detriment of their fast ones. The human body in its natural state without training is a bundle of fast twitch fibers. If you spend set after set, day after day doing bicep curls, for instance, you will replace your fast twitch fibers with slow twitch. Resting days between work outs allows the fast twitch to regenerate. Nutrition plays a big role too. They eat a lot of junk like high-carb foods, power bars, and protein and sports drinks.

    It’s fascinating stuff and one of the experts on the subject is Art De Vany. He’s got a great blog: http://www.arthurdevany.com/

  5. Levander Williams said:

    September 10th, 2008 at 5:55 am

    Good takes – I saw about 2.5 quarters of good football, and sloppy/sluggish play for the balance.

    Your comments about S&C remind me of the football coach at a high school that I attended in Nebraska in the mid-80s. He was a proponent of weight training, but focussed moreso on the development of lower leg strength – he disdainfully said about one of our rivals that “they have cheerleaders who can bench 400 lbs…so what?”.

    But is this really a surprise? Mack, for all his positive attributes, suffers from a myopic loyalty that frequently prevents him from addressing relatively clear problems within his organization. Mad Dog has been a gold-plated license plate around our necks for a while now – I don’t foresee change on this any more likely than a purge of the Davis/Bryant guard.

    I’d like to see Dan Buckner learn how to fight for the ball.

    Agreed on Akina’s return to the Special Teams, punt coverage/block in particular – he makes a positive impact here.

    Earl Thomas still looks to be struggling to understand zone coverage and recognizing play action. I hope he improves before October.

    I think the Chiles Transfer Watch Clock is ticking.

  6. i thought we blitzed more than you saw but i was also drunk although not in a sports bar in anchorage al.

  7. Agree, agree, agree, agree, agree, agree and agree. Thanks. :)

  8. Nice writeup. I am trying to avoid the hand wringing over this game. Completely agree on the Houston, Shipley and McCoy comments. If Miller or Houston go down we are in a world of hurt. Colt could’ve sat in the pocket for 5+ seconds, there was literally no body within 3 yards of him and they were all being blocked when he got his happy feet and ran straight into a sack. Hopefully he caught a world of shit for that at film study and continues to improve in this area.

    Other than that it was just a typical uninspired night road game in college football. It happens at every program at least twice a year. Luckily we were playing UTEP. Maybe we got it out of our system.

  9. A friend of mine played for CU in the late 80’s/early 90’s. The report he gave on Mad Dog would not surprise you- he busted his ass in the first year and then just coasted and did nothing.

    I am so sick of seeing the quickness of our players decline over 4 years. Someone should just put the 91 Cotton Bowl on a continuous loop in the training room.

  10. Blitzes are great for screwing up the running game and reducing the amount of time available for the QB to process multiple receivers downfield. We saw this over and over last season.

    GD explained that he went spread because the UT OL was confused about their blocking assignents when the offensive formation was more bunched up. By going spread, the OL was less confused about who to block.

    One obvious question is, if the blitz is going to screw up your running game anyway (i.e. you are going to pass rather than run), why worry too much about the OL run blocking assignments? If you pass, the OL is going to be mostly back pedaling anyway (i.e. their blocking target will find them, not vice versa).

    The problem with the spread response to the blitz is that Colt panics a bit when he sees a big rush and his mind is just not right for dealing with the complexities of locating (in a very short time) the 3 or 4 targets of the spread offense after that. He runs because he is overwhelmed.

    Offenses have to take into account the actual limitations of the actual players playing. For Colt to stay calmer in a blitz, he needs more blocking, less challenging reads, and less challenging throws. Once he has mastered this simpler approach to dealing with a blitz, he can go on to something more advanced.

    I don’t get the impression that GD, up in the press box and distracted with the ongoing pressure of getting a play called asap, really gets Colt’s mental state until Colt has really gone to crap.

    The easiest way to defeat a big blitz (and restore the QB’s mental equilibrium) is to throw a short pass to the edge of the box (or outside the box) where the blitzers can’t reach. Better to give the QB more blocking (and fewer targets to deal with) and then hit one of these blockers for a pass (after the blocker releases from his block).

    Close targets are safer targets, require no footwork to make the throw, and can be thrown with the wrist (i.e. zero preparation required by the QB).

    GD would have gotten much better results if he had simplified the offense (after UTEP started bringing the house) rather than going spread.

  11. Cody Johnson reminds me of Ivan Williams

  12. LonghornScott said:

    September 10th, 2008 at 6:53 am

    I won’t rehash the areas you covered. Great analysis, Scip. One thing I haven’t seen anyone comment on is the routes we are using in the passing and screen game this year. We are actually trying to hit targets that are moving downfield. Quick slants, deep posts, swing passes… oh my. Honestly not things I thought I would ever see in a Davis design. Our running game is a misguided pile but it’s Greg’s world, I just obsess in it.

    I am a lot happier on defense than I have been in a while. Fucking two deep for the majority of a game. Finally. Muschamp made a decision to play 7 against the run and ate a few bad plays but didn’t allow his defense to give up the home runs. A lot of people just see the yards we are giving up but don’t see the wider improvements. We are playing great red zone through the first two games, despite giving up a lot of yards. This defense will improve where our past defenses have just been repeatedly pantsed. I hope Muschamp is going to stay until he gets a big-time program offer.

  13. The two things I noted in GBU are, I think, still valid: I’m very concerned about the return of Colt’s happy feet. The old screams of “stop running the two yard hitch/out” have been replaced by “Step up in the pocket for god’s sake”

    Secondly, for all the teeth knashing about the DB’s, they are in the vicinity, they are not biting hard on the play action, and they are not giving up deep plays down field. You have to walk before you can run. I feel like there is a real teaching process going on.

  14. Anyone know whatsup with the game or lack thereof this weekend?

  15. Looking at the track of Ike, I’d say that we are looking at a reschedule.

  16. “I would like to see Dan Buckner learn how to fight for the ball.”
    He will. Think of how long it took a very good receiver like Limas to catch on. My guess is that Dan contributes much faster than Limas did in his first year of playing.

  17. Black Scholes said:

    September 10th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Zone coverage. After LBs, the bane of our defensive existence under Mack.

  18. Boy, with the way you guys write and the attitudes on display, it would appear that anyone who coaches football are a bunch of idiotic keystone cops who are clueless, with the IQ’s of neantherthals (or at least any football coaches associated with Texas), whereas anyone posting on annonymous internet boards have the tendency to be geniuses or on the cusps of being a genius and have relevant and useful insights about all aspects of game of football just spilling out of heads like some volcanic eruption, even though they are unnassociated with any football program, and never have been, and seemingly not even their local peewee football league is knocking on their doors for their incredible, far-reaching and innovative football related insights.

    Oh course all of the above could be true. What do I know? But I do get a laugh out of all this.

  19. Football is hard and requires an advanced degree from McNeese St to understand it. As I have no such degree, I was relegated to a lower profession.

  20. So steven, what would you disagree with in my post?

    If you’re able to communicate that disagreeement without any run-on sentences I will send you a Barking Carnival chaise lounge.

  21. Nice write-up Scipio. Houston, the Acho’s, Muckelroy, and Gideon are the type of athlete/football players you can build a defense on.

  22. Chrisapplewhite needs to use dots with larger circumferences to represent older players.

  23. I can’t speak for all, but I am not on the cusp of genius. I am squarely in the middle of it.

    Besides, we all stay at a Holiday Inn Express prior to posting our comments.

  24. Scipio, Check out our blitz with 21 seconds left in the first half. Why did #95 Aaron Lewis quit? I’m sure that didn’t go over well in film session. I’m not digging the delayed Gideon blitz either.

    IMO, unless Muschamp gets our 4 down line men to start collapsing the pocket more consistenly we are going to get torched by the better teams in the big 12. Maybe even Arky. I’m much more concerned with our lack of pressure right now than I am with our inexperienced backfield.

  25. Scip, your write up was fine and one of the better ones I have read so far on here, at least in my opinion. My comment was more about some of the posts and attitudes in them, and the attitudes one generally reads on internet boards about sports and football.

    I do not frequent internet boards too much, so some of this stuff is all new to me, but one can only imagine that the beef and bitch’in one hears on the Texas boards are going to be fairly universal with these boards in general and throughout the country, if not the world, with not even the boards for FU, OU, OSU, and even USC probably being an exception. Well, of course, such universal bitch’in on all the boards and not just Texas’s does not lead a casual observer to place much credibility into their comments, even though he, himself, may have a limited knowledge of the football ABC’s.

    Now, imagine, if your egos were a bit unsettled just by my little side remarks, just think what kind of wedgies you guys would be going around with if you guys were an actual football coach who had to deal with all these coach potato critics crawling out of the woodworks everywhere you went. I certainly get a laugh out of it just imagining the scenario.

    And remember, I said all this could be true; certainly there are some things in this world that are stranger which probably happen to be true. Your point about MadDog and the S/T program at Texas was the interesting comments. Now it certainly could be true and valid, but in order for it to be so, that would mean that a man, as in MadDog, who has done what he has done for his whole life, been paid a generous salary for it, and who has won several awards along the way, has no earthly idea how to do his job, and instead of helping these kids to become more athletically able to perform, he is, in actuality, spending all of his time and energy to make them less able to perform. For your point to be true, it would mean that while he is doing all this mistaken, gullible stuff, he is not noticing what you, Scip, are noticing with just a mere glance, that he is not noticing this even though he is spending most of his waking life with these kids -afterall it is his job, and not noticing this after years and years and recruting classes on top of recruiting classes, during which time he has been diligently sabotaging the potential NFL career of all these recruits. It would mean that generations upon generations of young kids were made athletically challenged and disabled by MadDog’s ignorant, slow twitch muscle training methods, and, as a result, hundreds upon hundreds of baby’s mommas have not gotten their big houses in the sky, their big diamond necklaces, or their three caddies with big golden rims in their garages. And it would mean that all this while, neither MadDog himself has noticed and corrected his misguided S/T program, his head coach also hasn’t, nor his OC, nor his DC, and neither have the athletes themselves who happen to have a fairly intimate connection with the said bodies in question which are being trained rigorously to be made less football capable. Like I said, now all this could be true, and certainly stranger things than this are true in this world, but it is also possible, and more likely so, that your view maybe a bit simplistic relative to situation, that your point maybe a bit exaggerated, and/or that there maybe a set of variables which you are not considering or are just unaware of, or, of course, you could just be plain wrong.

    Oh, and I know I am a sh*tty writer. I’m man enough to admit it. My creative writing teacher also told me about them and I told her to go kiss my a** and there’s the story on that. Needless to say I did not go on to make an A in her class. And of course, it is always better to be a sh*tty writer than a sh*tty thinker. And I am not saying any of you guys are sh*tty thinkers. Just said that as a stand alone comment. Not meant to refer to anyone in general but just to the state of things.

  26. “Like I said, now all this could be true, and certainly stranger things than this are true in this world, but it is also possible, and more likely so, that your view maybe a bit simplistic relative to situation, that your point maybe a bit exaggerated, and/or that there maybe a set of variables which you are not considering or are just unaware of, or, of course, you could just be plain wrong.”

    Do go on, please.

  27. It should be a pretty simple project to compare the 40 times for guys coming into UT’s program to the 40 times for those same guys at the NFL combine 4 or 5 years later. I am pretty sure that first set of 40 times is going to tend to be lower than the latter set of 40 times.

    One example: Cody Johnson ran 4.4 40 at 225 pounds in high school. Less than two years later, 5′10″ Cody is now tipping the scales at a very unlean 255 pounds. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t run a 4.4 40 anymore.

    Part of the reason that Maddog draws so much scorn (besides a general consensus that UT players get bigger but not quicker as they progress through UT’s S+C program) is that he is so incredibly unfit. The guy is a walrus. He is a terrible example for an S+C coach.

    This site is all about humor and good writing. Of course they are not going to be politically correct. I have not seen anywhere else this combination of humor, good writing, and football knowledge. Period. These guys reflect so well on UT.

  28. LonghornScott said:

    September 10th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    1) Scip’s observation is not just in passing. This is a decade long trend. In general, Texas football players do not gain “football speed” while they are here. They generally put on weight and lose quickness. Are there exceptions? Yes. That doesn’t negate the trend. Go back and look at the physical timeline of players like B.J. Johnson, Selvin Young, Tim Crowder, Drew Kelson, Tyrell Gatewood, and Mike Williams. Watch film of them as freshmen and then watch film of them late in their careers at Texas… they didn’t gain quickness on the field and their body proportion didn’t look right. I’m not even touching on the Terence Youngs, and Alfio Randall’s.
    2) It’s well known that McWhorter changed the work-outs for the offensive line when he took it over. Why? Because under Maddog’s watch our linemen were getting huge and slow. Under Amour boobs. The average size and speed of our linemen back then was disgusting.
    3) I don’t know all of the details of Jeff Madden’s role. I don’t need to. Frankly, we are misguided in our whole approach to S&C. The majority of what you hear players talk about pertaining to S&C is a goal weight of what they need to be at. We often push players to add weight in the offseason; we often hear the coaching staff talk about how this player added weight to play this position, etc. You never hear talk about, “we asked him to get quicker… we aren’t seeing the explosion at that position that we need”. Clearly there are some misplaced priorities… especially in the era of spread out fields and a premium on reaction in space. In the end it’s all about enhancing the athlete’s physical performance on the field, not just making someone bigger and stronger. If the goal is to get a lot of player’s shoulder injuries from doing too many heavy power cleans and hamstring pulls from having oversized quads… then yea Madden has done a great job.
    4) Compare the physical development of our football players to that of our basketball players. Todd Wright’s athletes add size and explosion. They’re physical enhancement is directly noticeable in their ability to perform on the court.
    5) Awards don’t mean shit most of the time (unless they are awarded to me). They are more about networking and politics than about merit. Try watching the next award show for say… any fucking professional in the world. People who are great at what they do never cite their awards as proof… it’s the people who are mediocre that send you a 14 fucking page resume with photocopies of their participation ribbons from little league.

  29. Sorry steven, Kafka got the last BC chaise lounge. You will, however, be rewarded with a protein bar, a case of amino acids and a used recliner.

    Criticism and expressing your disagreements are encouraged here. Your lengthy contribution is much appreciated.

    I agree with Kafka’s post, especially the part about Madden’s appearance. And I’m aware how that might seem petty. While it is certainly possible for a monstrously rotund, globulous, manatee-like creature to have all the conditioning knowledge available, it is a tad discouraging; you’d have to admit that. I hate when his appearance becomes an ongoing cartoon around the Longhorn internet trough, but I’m still not going to hire a pitbull named Gehring for a babysitter.

    Madden has a lofty CV in strength and conditioning. He’s even a “certified expert in the National Association of Speed and Explosion.” While that sounds encouraging, you have to remember that HenryJames is constantly bragging about his status as a registered technician of moustache rides.

    There are just too many examples of players gaining absurd mass and getting slower. I think B.J. Johnson just finished his pro day 40 yesterday.

    If Jared Norton runs a 4.9 when he leaves here I’m going to start dipping my bacon in ranch dressing.

  30. Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to dog anyone on here, and I tend to agree with Kafka, this site ain’t too shabby and is the best of its kind from what I can tell. Just was attempting to point out the absolutely absurd consequences which must follow if what is being said about the S/T program is valid. As a result, I find it difficult to believe. I am not saying it could not true, just that I would be extremely reluctant to believe it, just given all that must follow if it were completely valid.

    That being said, in all honesty, I, too, have noticed what you fellows have been alluding to and I, too, believe that it is a no brainer that a S/T program for football which attempts to turn its players into glorified bodybuilders or powerlifters is a no go. But as I said above, there could be a lot factors involved to explain this phenomenon aside from the belief that the person who runs the UT S/T program is a complete and inexcusable moron, as well as everyone else associated with the football program. If what you guys are saying about the S/T program is true, then UT football has more to worry about then just a couple football players who need to join weight watchers or a yoga class. With such morons running the program it is a wonder how in the world they could ever win a game or two, especially considering they actually won a MNC, with Mack being the only other coach besides Royal having done so. You would think they would end up eventually teaching their players to run in the wrong direction or something of the like and that is why I doubt the UT S/T program is run in the manner that, evidently, a lot of people seem to think. While there is such a thing as progress and programs and techniques changing as a result of acknowledging what they did in the past was arcane and incorrect, the accusations here are several magnitudes higher than jthat of ust incremental progress. It borderlines on being idiotic, and hence I have a difficult time swallowing it. And if it is true, it would be fairly ironic, given all the emphasis Mack puts on speed, speed, speed. When he first came to UT, that is what he said was most important on the football field and what we lacked most at the time. When Mack recruits, he emphasizes speed more than anything, at least according to his own mouth that is what his point of emphasis is. Now are you going to tell me that after all that emphasis and effort to find the speed he covets, he will then just turn it over to guy who inevitably dials that speed down, and he will do so without a compliant or whimper but instead with praise? No, all that just does not sound right to me. Also, if anyone has notice, Mack, at least this year, has placed even an emphasis on speed at def. tackle, something he has not normally done, and probably to deal with the prevalence of the spread, so he seems to be plenty concerned with speed.

    As far as, 40 times are concerned, that may be difficult for most players unless they are getting electronically timed a the high school level. After all, if those claimed high school times were anywhere near to being accurate, then Aggy would be fielding one of the fastest teams in the nation year in and year out. And even if they did time electronically in high school, again unless the running conditions are similar to the one at the combine, you still could not get as accurate of a reading as you would want. And even if the assumption that the players were faster in high school were true, it could just be due to the fact that at a certain point in our lives, we do begin to peak and then slow down. Now I do not know when that is exactly, and for each person I would imagine it is different. As idiotic as that may sound, I, for one, know that I was the fastest as I had ever been when I was in high school. Also, obviously, an increase in size is going to slow a person down in some ways, whether it is in outright speed, in burst, or in quickness, but unfortunately, that may just be a tradeoff which is necessary as one moves up levels of football. Size happens to be important in football and this is probably one of the main reasons why players redshirt, so that they can attain the necessary size and inertia to avoid getting pushed around. Also it could be that as a person gains size, he may not visually look as quick and fast as he really is. There are some players in the NFL who do not look too fast at all due to their bulk, but no one seems to be catching them either. I think Michael Turner for the Hawks is a good example of that phenomenon. And of course, one would also have to factor in some of the exotic training stuff players these days are going to be into, who knows how all that stuff is going to affect the stuff we are talking about.

    Cody Johnson- You have a point with him. I wish he weighed a bit less myself, but I haven’t seen the fellow play enough to really go one way or the other on the issue. Mack has said that weight is not an issue with him, and he may just need the weight to fulfill his function as FB. Also it could be that the dude just gains weight. Football players are big guys and alot of big guys have issues with their weight. You can’t pin J. Lane on the aggie S/T coach. Some guys just gain weight, what can you do, you can’t ship them off to a football concentration camp.

    McWorter and the change of work outs. I do not know enough to comment on the situation there, but I doubt if the situation is as simple as just MadDog being a sh*tty S/T coach. Couldn’t they have just told MD what they wanted? Is he so sh*tty or set in his ways as to be unable to do anything other than train his athletes for useless bulk. Could he be that way and still maintain his job? All this is doubtful. I do know that at the time there was a coaching change and change in philosphy happening with the OL, so maybe that explains alot of that. I do not pretend to know the inner workings of the team.

    Orakpo- Sure he looked quicker when he was a fish, he came into UT at 210 pounds and he has gained 50 pounds over that period. How many 210 guys play end in this conference. The ends previous to him, played at 260 to 270 and they did not seem to have any problems making it to the league, so who is to say that is not the ideal weight for an end. Anyway, from the Utep game, he looked plenty quick to me, with certainly the best burst on the team, and didn’t he end up with two sacks? Now, how many sacks did he have when he was a fish or when he was a sophmore? Isn’t he getting more sacks now than then and isn’t that what matters? From what I can tell, he may have certain issues with his balance, flexibility, instincts, and technique, but sheer athleticism, quickness, and speed doesn’t really seem to one of them.

    As far as Mismi and Texas was concerned back in the 90’s, sure Miami showed that speed is better than size, but what did that prove about the Texas S/T program? Probably not much. You think for a second that if the S/T coaches were switched for the teams the results would have been different? The simple fact was that Miami just had much better players than Texas at the time. Not only were they faster but they were just as strong and just much more athletic overall. I suspect Texas subscribed to the philosophy of, if you cannot win with speed (which we happen to lack) then win with size. You gotta find an advantage somewhere. Texas just did not have the speed back then, most of it went to A&M, so they attempted to offset that with size. Of course it had no chance in hell of working against a team like Miami.

  31. A lot of the criticism of Mad Dog is filtered through the framework of listenting to former players- that stuff doesn’t get posted (appropriately so) and leads to finding objective data like kafka and LHS are doing to make the point instead. If it’s a question you are really interested in there are quite a few data points as it’s been heavily discussed the last 5-7 years.

    “BC chaise lounge”

    The online store is all sold out of BC portmanteaux btw. We need to order some more.

  32. “Texas…you’re good, and with our help you can be the best.”

  33. “MadDog, who has … won several awards along the way.”

    As I recall, those were awards that his S & C buddies handed to him and he naturally reciprocated. Yay! Everybody’s got an orange slice, juicebox and a trophy!

  34. Uh, I’m one of those mean Quakers, by the way. Its a real small sect.

  35. Mack is a very, very highly paid high school coach. That’s why he relates to the HS coaches so well. Deep down he knows he’s one of them.

  36. Bob in Houston said:

    September 11th, 2008 at 8:40 am

    “4) Compare the physical development of our football players to that of our basketball players. Todd Wright’s athletes add size and explosion. They’re physical enhancement is directly noticeable in their ability to perform on the court.”

    This is the point I was going to make. Todd
    Wright’s program improves the ability of the players he works with to play basketball. Example: Kevin Durant’s failure to do one bench press rep prior to the NBA draft. Wright just doesn’t care about that. And Durant managed to score 20 a game for the Sonics and average 35 minutes. That’s what they wanted out of the guy, not for him to be muscled up.

  37. “Is he so sh*tty or set in his ways as to be unable to do anything other than train his athletes for useless bulk. Could he be that way and still maintain his job?”

    Apparently so, yes.

  38. Mysterious Package said:

    September 11th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Couldn’t they have just told MD what they wanted? Is he so sh*tty or set in his ways as to be unable to do anything other than train his athletes for useless bulk. Could he be that way and still maintain his job?
    You mean you didn’t know Mack only employs friends? See Greg Davis. Our staff has been the same for years because they are not good enough to get hired anywhere else. Why did I just have to state the obvious? This has been the case for the past 10 years. Unless you Bill Little then our coaches were highly sought after for the UCLA job.

  39. Art Vandelay said:

    September 11th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    steven:

    The combination of humor and sports acumen (not just football) on this site far exceeds anything I’ve run across. I think sleep depravation had more to do with the UTEP post game entries skewing a little negative….

    A quick suggestion regarding your writing skills:

    brevity

    Main Entry: brev·i·ty
    Pronunciation: \ˈbre-və-tē\
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural brev·i·ties
    Etymology: Latin brevitas, from brevis
    Date: 15th century
    : shortness of duration; especially : shortness or conciseness of expression

  40. Can someone post that old photoshop of Mad Dog at the hex rally, holding a T-bone steak and an ice cream cone?

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