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Posted by dedfischer on August 14th, 2008 under Football, Recruiting
Good read. I hadn’t heard this one before:
I guess Montre Webber and Philip Payne were higher on the UT big board.
To save you some time of reading the whole article:
“He grew up to be the Wing-T high school QB who, when Texas recruiters asked him about playing defense for the Longhorns, waved them off and said, “I want to score touchdowns.”
Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 7 minutes ago
colorado ag, Utah State is as athletic as Nebraska. You’ll be fine as long as they don’t go 16 for 31 from three.
Siena, on the other hand, is going to beat you like you stole something. Maybe not, but the Saints should win.
Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 10 minutes ago
Great article Scipio. Also, thanks for the dime.
Looking at the Tournament futures market, Vegas is telling us what they think about Onuaku’s health. The Orangemen have the easiest region and road to the fianl four, yet they’re +700 to win it all, while UK and Kansas, teams with much tougher roads, are +250
Art Vandelay commented on the blog post Final Four Prediction 15 minutes ago
My brackets are pretty much locked down except the South. Can’t get myself to take Baylor, and Duke doesn’t feel right. Nobody seems to be high on Nova. It’s all about the Big East and Big 12 this year.
It’s a crying shame we suck so bad. We are in a good
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James commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 26 minutes ago
Scip, like a peaceful Indian in the 1800’s, I never trust a Mormon that can shoot. Utah State has me worried.
If we escape the first weekend, things get very interesting with a potential Sweet 16 match-up with Duke. Ugly up the game and guard like hell on the perimeter in front of a
Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 56 minutes ago
CJD -
Possibly. However, I’m telling you – the beauty of these intergame lines is that when you see that all-too-familiar big early game lead that you know will evaporate down the stretch as soon as the team starts regressing to their 3 point shooting mean, there’s some money to be made.
Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 58 minutes ago
uthookem-
I’d say you have your priorities straight.
colorado -
Anytime. How far do you think the Aggies go? A lot of people think Utah State is the most dangerous pure shooting team in the tournament.
uthookem commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Last year in Vegas, Friday morning, stumble to the line at 8:30 to make my bets, put $20 on a four-team parlay on the four 9:00 am games, nailed it! Three of the four games’ spread was determined in the final 0:30. Walked away with $220.
Yeah, so what if that is the only
James commented on the blog post Sending Aggies to the NFL 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Jordan, all just wild, premature conjecture. I’d hedge that only a third of that 2013 list ever makes an NFL roster. It is picking which third that is the tough part.
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James commented on the blog post Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Very interesting piece. These games can’t start soon enough. Thanks, Scip.
Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Final Four Prediction 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I have:
Syracuse
Kansas
West Virginia
BaylorThese will all likely change 3-4 times before tomorrow morning.
I don’t have as high an opinion of Ohio State as you do. Evan Turner is fantastic, but I don’t like their odds of taking down Georgetown and KU back-to-back.
Baylor scares me. They have no idea what
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Kevin Berger wrote a new blog post: Final Four Prediction 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Arinze Onuaku’s injury has forced me to turn this year’s bracket prediction into a “Multiple Endings” story. Don’t get me wrong, we’re not hyper-geeks playing Dungeons and Dragons here. We may be wasting billions of dollars in worker productivity, but we’re not killing Orcs with plus 10 vorpal swords of magic.
So, in
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Kevin Berger wrote a new blog post: The Definitive Bracket: 63 Guaranteed Winners! 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
But only if you call now! I’ve gone 85 percent against the numba for the last two decades!! So picking straight up winners is, bada-boom bada-bing, easy! Only Sammy “the nose” Pistachio and Billy “buttercups” Birmingham can approach this many winnaz! It’s ridiculoso, hermoso!!
Call now and we’ll throw in an opening round N-I-T super-dupa live dog
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Scipio Tex commented on the blog post Making it Official: Tighter Officiating’s Effect on the Tournament 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Awesome write up.
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Scipio Tex wrote a new blog post: Bracket Breakdown & Gambling Tips 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
So I’m listening to Bill Simmons’ podcast and he has on Chad Millman, Vegas Insider. Basically, Chad’s job is to interact with the guys who set the line, professional gamblers, sharps, and wise guys. He had some interesting comments about the tournament:
By the end of the year, markets are fairly efficient as
Bob Jones commented on the blog post Math… Everyone’s favorite subject 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
As a Baylor fan I loathe math: it’s either inexorably against us or when favorable, completely inapplicable.
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Kevin Berger commented on the blog post Making it Official: Tighter Officiating’s Effect on the Tournament 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Should have that up soon, ts.
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Nate Heupel wrote a new blog post: Oklahoma Sooners – Recruiting So Far 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
I was reading a thread on OUInsider whining about how a beat writer for a UT website seemed to favoring UT recruits. Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. Next, you’re going to tell me that Oklahoma sports media coverage is slanted towards OU.
While Ketchum’s rankings seemed to be
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J Rog commented on the blog post March Mad(nba)ess! 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
EVERYTHING would be different. Great post!
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James commented on the blog post Two Loops & A Hooey – Herm Edwards Edition 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
ha, nice Tim burn.
I was wondering where you went Ded. I got sick of looking at the same article everyday for 2 weeks. I’ve been up to Taos a few times this season, but it’s not that far from ABQ. I am absolutely convinced that everyone in Texas has been to Angel
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Brownbear commented on the blog post Math… Everyone’s favorite subject 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
Atleast I was wearing flannel when I wrote it.
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admin commented on the blog post Math… Everyone’s favorite subject 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
Same source or just similar facts: http://fantake.com/forums/topic.php?id=876#post-5197
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admin commented on the blog post Bracket Analysis: The Beasts of the East 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
I think I’m riding the Huggy bear to the Final Four.
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ursa major commented on the blog post Math… Everyone’s favorite subject 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
“in the history of baylor basketball this has never been in discussion”
except for that pesky final four appearance we made…
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Sancho commented on the blog post All Signs Point to March Madness Expanding to 96 Teams 4 hours, 14 minutes ago
I just had diarrhea in my pants thinking about how many horrible teams would allowed to play
Sancho commented on the blog post 2010 Football Schedule Released 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
8-4 would be pretty good, 9-3 would be stellar, in fact quite amazing. I still say we are two years away from having an impact year in college football, though.
On another note, the game against tech is gonna be on ESPN. Time for SMU to step it up on the national stage again.
Luke commented on the blog post Want to plant my feet on Rampart Street… 4 hours, 25 minutes ago
I won’t lie, the newly fashionable take as the Bears as a Final Four team sorta scares me. I think we do better as an underdog. maybe that’s jsut because I am so used to us being an underdog. Either way, I am f’in fired up . All of s sudden,
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Vasherized commented on the blog post Beat the Barkers NCAA Tourney Bracket 4 hours, 40 minutes ago
This is an equal opportunity bracket.
Sailor Ripley commented on the blog post Making it Official: Tighter Officiating’s Effect on the Tournament 5 hours, 15 minutes ago
Great article, Kevin. Really interested to see if Nova is in fact reborn or if there is something more deeply seeded there.
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Brownbear wrote a new blog post: Math… Everyone’s favorite subject 5 hours, 27 minutes ago
It’s the most wonderful time of the year basketball fans. The madness of March has returned and the field of 65 is set. Whatifsports.com is excited to follow-up its NCAA basketball predictions of 2008 (Kansas) and 2009 (North Carolina) by accurately predicting the 2010 NCAA basketball champion. Their award-winning college basketball simulation engine has “played” the NCAA
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Raoul Duke commented on the blog post Bush Paves the Way for Henderson? 5 hours, 31 minutes ago
All fine answers, PB. Like I said, I had no idea who they were but clearly you do.
Keep up the great stuff.
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dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Not trying to rub it in or make you sick or anything.
ChrisApplewhite said:
August 14th, 2008 at 6:49 am
The Big Board tends not to include non qualifiers.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 6:54 am
?
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 6:55 am
That theory would tend to be discredited by the offer to play DB.
HenryJames said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Texas never recruited Crabtree.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Lucky for us, I guess.
Tech Admissions said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:27 am
The fact that Texas didn’t recruit him or the fact that we take non-qualifiers?
Texas A&M Admissions said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:33 am
A&M never offered either. Had heard he would have been an Aggie lock, or at least, it would have been an A&M/UT battle.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:34 am
I guess we now know whose team Jesus is on.
BrickHorn said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:37 am
I guess we now know whose team Jesus is on.
Yep. He’s on Liam O’Brien’s team.
Greg Davis said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:44 am
We had Limas Sweed at the time as our blitz control. We needed depth not starters that year.
Robert Joseph said:
August 14th, 2008 at 7:47 am
It came down to character issues, and I won.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:03 am
I was under the impression that Texas never recruited him because he never visited for a junior day or anything. Isn’t that a requirement for a UT offer? This was the first place I read that UT approached him about his interest in playing defense. As far as being a non-qualifier, I don’t think grades were ever an issue with Crabtree. The only issue he had was with the administration at Dallas Carter. He was eligible after the 3rd game, once the transcript issues were resolved. Maybe I’m wrong, but this is the only public information that I’m aware was ever disclosed.
HenryJames said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:11 am
He didn’t even take any visits until his senior year, and I think that’s because he didn’t take his ACT until September. Texas doesn’t usually recruit those types. No offer unless you meet with Brown in person.
They obviously missed out on the best receiver to come out of Texas since Roy Williams.
Black Scholes said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:12 am
“A&M never offered either. Had heard he would have been an Aggie lock”
Aren’t they all?
Except for the ones you actually try to recruit?
Ishie Iduegwu said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Whatever ded. If we thought he was deserving of being family, he would be running 2nd string at nickel back behind my boy, Earl.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:18 am
I do know that his involvement in summer AAU basketball hurt his recruiting stock. Everyone knew he wasn’t a QB, but no one really got a good look at him at another position during the summer camp circuit. His second choice was Kansas because they were going to let him play basketball. The idea was tossed around that he would play basketball at Tech, and allegedly, Knight went to a football practice and said he needed to stick with that. At least, I think that’s how the story went.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Regardless, this article seems to indicate he was approached by Texas at some point with the idea of playing defense. Is this true? I had never heard it before.
Shannon Kelly said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:36 am
I’d always just assumed it was grades that kept us from recuriting him. My reasoning went something like this- guys with that talent do not redshirt at Tech (or anywhere for that matter). He was redshirted, therefore he must have been Tech’s lone prop 48 take for that year and we already had ours or did not want to take the risk.
Of course, this rests on my belief that this is how prop 48s work in the Big 12 these days, maybe all that has changed.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Hmmm….maybe so. I know he had a qualifying test score and GPA, and was enrolled through the summer at Tech. Obviously, they were going to play him and then the clearing house came back a week or two before the season and said there was an error regarding a credit on his high school transcript. Then, Carter had to get it corrected and by game 4 he was eligible. At that point, Leach decided to redshirt him since they had all the starters back and didn’t want to waste 1/3 of a season. As it turns out, it appears we wasted 2/3 of a season by not playing him.
Black Scholes said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:54 am
dedi – I’m sure there was contact. At least, I would certainly hope our recruiters are evaluating all the kids who are legit D1 prospects and talking with them when that’s possible or necessary. Crabtree had to be on our evaluation list at some point I would think. So I imagine all of the above could be possible: we asked him about his interest as a defensive player and later – be it grades, something else or just a complete whiff on our part re his abilities and potential – decided not to recruit or offer.
We Texas fans tend to cite grades as the reason for not taking a certain recruit, and it’s actually often/usually the case. But not always. Plus kids from DISD are somewhat in the hole to begin with academically.
Bobby Kennedy said:
August 14th, 2008 at 8:55 am
LaShonda, I’m needing to schedule an eye exam. I’m having a hard time in the filmroom.
Facebook User said:
August 14th, 2008 at 9:08 am
ded – Jesus plays for the Titans now. Duh.
I remember a story about Mack when her first showed up at Texas about how he specifically looked for Hoops guys because they could run and jump. Possibly apocryphal. Possibly no longer applicable. Possibly both!
Great find, HJ. Worth a read. Nice Dex Pittman story. I don’t think he’d hold off Dex anymore.
dedfischer said:
August 14th, 2008 at 9:30 am
I thought that part was pretty cool.
Ag_in_TX said:
August 14th, 2008 at 10:32 am
“At least, I would certainly hope our recruiters are evaluating all the kids who are legit D1 prospects and talking with them when that’s possible or necessary.” – Black Scholes
Your recruiters do not contact all legitimate D1 prospects. Nobody does – well, UNLV, believe it or not, seems to be sending letters to almost every D1 recruit in Texas.
dick said:
August 14th, 2008 at 11:07 am
I think he meant legit = worthy of a look from Texas, not possibly being able to play Div 1 football, brutha.
ChrisApplewhite said:
August 14th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I don’t think anyone would deny Crabtree is great, or that Tech isn’t blessed to have him.
Texas, for whatever reason, was never in the Crabtree business. A lot of these kids receive offers from Texas 3 years later according to that school’s SID. “We beat out Texas blah blah blah.”
It looks good on the resume.