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Fudging Isn’t Just For The Castro
Posted by Scipio Tex on June 3rd, 2008 under Basketball
Some interesting numbers here on the top NBA prospects.
Nothing new here in that college basketball players and coaches routinely lie their asses off about their true height and weight. Unfortunately for them, the tape measure and the scale do not lie.
Some quick impressions:
The fact that they have them test in bench press amuses me. I can’t think of a less applicable lift for basketball.
DJ Augustin tested decently in terms of movement, actually running and jumping better than I expected. 5-10 in his socks? Ouch. Still, perhaps the Knicks draft him at 6. That way they could have eight point guards on their roster.
WVU’s Joe Alexander helped himself. He had a 38.5 vert, ran his ass off in the 3/4 court sprint (2nd best time), measured just over 6-7 without shoes, lifted very well, and, oh yeah, he can play basketball pretty well. He’s a consistent outside jumper away from being a really nice NBA contributor.
Kevin Love measured just shy of 6-8 in bare feet. That raised an eyebrow for me. His other measurables were actually quite solid which helps him to sell himself as a smallish PF with an inside/outside game. Of course, he has a phenomenal basketball IQ and his outside game will only grow.
OJ Mayo was 6-3 in bare feet. This kid lost three inches more quickly than your peter at the sight of a naked Candy Crowley. Maybe I’m too influenced by my reflexive SMU…err I mean… USC hate, but I honestly have a tough time seeing the difference between his game and, say, Joe Crawford from UK. Of course, OJ has experience in the pro game since he’s been playing for money since he was 15.
David Padgett is legitimately long and though he moves like a lumbering buffoon at times in the open court, legit 6-11 guys with great skill sets don’t grow on trees. I think he fits with a Spurs/Jazz type team in the 2nd.
Eric Gordon is 19 years old, 6-2 222 with a 40 inch vertical and he had the 3rd fastest sprint of any player at the combine. Too bad we didn’t recruit him at WLB. Beyond his measurables, Gordon is also good at basketball. I think he’s a top 5 NBA prospect, but that’s just, like, my opinion, man. I know he’s a couple of inches shy of what you’d like at SG and he went in the shitter down the stretch at Indiana, but I suspect that the NBA will suit his game just fine. He needs to get his head together and get the wrist healthy.
I’m curious about your thoughts.
Noah points out that Stern is actually only two feet tall.
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By Trips Right on April 23rd, 2008
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GoHornsGo90 commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
Barnes’ three “strengths”:
Defense, rebounding, recruiting.
This team just proved the first two are non-existent (out-rebounded by 25; fucking KIDDING me?) and the last one is over-hyped as well. Every ESPN basketball recruiting analyst who actually had Bradley ahead of Wall should be taken out back and executed Inglourious Basterds style.
I hate Turgeon and I
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skymonkeyhorn commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 4 hours, 56 minutes ago
a Good System will usually beat a talented team that does not play together and are thinking instead of playing basketball ,over a season the system wins more then they will give away.
A team that is scared to make a mistake and thinks before they react is going to lose to a confident but -
Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
Nordberg,
Ironic indeed……teachable moment, I guess….
NY Horn,
I hope your drunk, because Izzo ain’t coming to Texas……Why don’t we just get Coach K. I mean Coach G came from Duke, they have to be dying to get out of Durham….
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Egg, that’s fine, but at what point do you blame Barnes? Seriously, man. You’ve thrown players under the bus left and right, but at a certain point, doesn’t the buck stop somewhere. I know you’re more of an NBA guy so it begins and ends with players there, but we need fucking
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Egg, that’s fine, but at what point do you blame Barnes? Seriously, man. You’ve thrown players under the bus left and right, but at a certain point, doesn’t the buck stop somewhere. I know you’re more of an NBA guy so it begins and ends with players there, but we need fucking
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 36 minutes ago
Trips,
I hear ya. I’m frustrated as well. I guess I just don’t prescribe to such a black and white characterization of the situation. I do know that no matter what happened in the huddle, JCB made a dumb play. If Rick didn’t explain or remind him of the situation, then I
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
Pat, know I don’t, but I’ve had coaches draw up plays to free up the best foul shooter and then tell that guy they’d put their foot up his ass if they passed the ball. It’s funny, but as a fans of football we nitpick blitz pickup and shit like that. Shit that’s
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
Pat, you know I don’t, but I’ve had coaches draw up plays to free up the best foul shooter and then tell that guy they’d put their foot up his ass if they passed the ball. It’s funny, but as a fans of football we nitpick blitz pickup and shit like that. Shit
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 43 minutes ago
Pat, you know I don’t, but I’ve had coaches draw up plays to free up the best foul shooter and then tell that guy they’d put their foot up his ass if they passed the ball. It’s funny, but as fans of football we nitpick blitz pickup and shit like that. Shit that’s
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 46 minutes ago
Shitty season…..Rick needs to hire some offensive help and someone needs to say it to him. Deloss?
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
Trips,
Do you know that he didn’t? JCB has made bad decision all season, why would this be any different. Barnes coached a shitastic game, but on the teams I was the best FT shooter, I never game up the ball unless it was an uncontested layup…..It’s not hard and it doesn’t take a
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
mcpayne, yes, you don’t leave that shit to chance. You don’t let your guys break the huddle or dead ball not knowing precisely what’s expected from them. Barnes doesn’t get 2 mil for coaching PE where he’s hoping the right guy gets fouled.
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uthookem commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
mpayne, I’d agree with you if J’Covan had been playing all season and had been in situations to make that decision. Like, you know, against Baylor, when he played all of 3 fucking minutes thanks to rick.
So yes, it is rick’s fault.
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 51 minutes ago
With 15 seconds left, out of a dead ball, most coaches would make it perfectly clear who they wanted to be fouled.
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uthookem commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
Stupid decisions by Brown are one of the reasons he sat on the bench for most of the season…lack of coaching maybe, or just a lack of basketball IQ?
Oh well, if Brown doesn’t go off in the 2nd half, we aren’t even playing in OT. Too bad he didn’t get much of a chance
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
Pat, if you were making 2 million a year, would you leave that up to chance?
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
Actually, if your a PG and the best FT shooter on the team and played basketball your entire life, you’d pretty much know not to give up the ball if you had any brains…..Such a dumb play…..
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D W commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
Oh, and a stupid decision by Brown in giving up the ball to Johnson.
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
Be nice if we’d coached our 90 percent foul shooter not to give the ball up.
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
Ransom,
1 for 2, that was not shitty defense……
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Mister Mike commented on the blog post State of the Union – NU Basketball, Part 1 (or Why We Are Where We Are) 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
Well if you had read it all the way, you would’ve noticed this little tidbit:
In the second part I’ll do my best to give an outline of what exactly is wrong with the program, what we can do to fix it, and then what will probably happen TO fix it.
So to answer your question:
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uthookem commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
The line kills us, as it should have.
Fuck Rick Barnes, as this was the worst coaching I have seen in all my years of watching UT sports.
This saved us from Kentucky, but I feel bad for Damo, he was a hell of a Longhorn.
Hook ‘em!
And FUCK RICK BARNES!
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
Feel bad for Damion…..Dexter and Mason, not so much….
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D W commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
So the season ends with missed free throws and shitty defense by Bradley. Pretty fitting.
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
Yup……We knew that FTs would get us….
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 58 minutes ago
F’n Gary’s been awful tonight….
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uthookem commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 58 minutes ago
GJ at the line…big heart needed!
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
Why does Brown give it up there?
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Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
Bilas explaining why we’re not a smart team…Oh good, I want Gary at the line…
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Trips Right commented on the blog post Texas Hoops vs. Wake Forest Open thread 6 hours, 59 minutes ago
The good news is that now I know to fill out the census, so i’m not going to jail…not for that anyway.
bighornfan32 said:
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
michael beasley only 6-7? Makes his rebounding numbers even more impressive.
longhornmatt said:
June 4th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Derrick Rose coming in shorter and lighter than Jerryd Bayless totally shocked me. Mayo having a higher vertical than Rose, Bayless, and Gordon was also surprising.
Kevin Love should be commended for his ability to play basketball in high heels. How do you get a 2 inch bump in height for putting on shoes?
Joey Dorsey measuring 6′6 means he should probably get in touch with PJ Tucker to see if he needs a roommate in Tel Aviv.
Darrell Arthur is the recipient of this year’s Kevin Durant memorial, “The numbers say I’m a below average athlete compared to my peers in this draft, but if you actually believe that, you are retarded” award.
dedfischer said:
June 4th, 2008 at 3:46 am
Alexander’s numbers are crazy. He’s the 2nd fastest guy and 2nd strongest guy in the draft along with having a top 10 vertical jump at 6′8″. I was really impressed with him in the tournament. My guess is that he will get a lot closer to being the next Larry Bird than Adam Morrison ever will. Those are almost freakish numbers.
jc25 said:
June 4th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Part-time Kentucky fan here. Joe Crawford’s ceiling is a Azubuike/Bogans-type NBA role, and it’ll take some NBDL or overseas seasoning to get him there.
Mayo’s potential is considerably higher, which makes him much more likely to become DaJuan Wagner. I’ll admit I prefer him to Eric Gordon, though. Just a gut feeling.
David Padgett has the Kerry Collins pigman face going, so that immediately drops him 15 spots in my book. Tack on another 5 for being a UL grad. Still easier on the eyes than Oberto, though.
Steve Nebraska said:
June 4th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Beasley at 6′7″ is really surprising.
beemshake said:
June 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I like that Sasha Kaun outperformed DeAndre Jordan in every category
uthookem said:
June 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
“Darrell Arthur is the recipient of this year’s Kevin Durant memorial, “The numbers say I’m a below average athlete compared to my peers in this draft, but if you actually believe that, you are retarded” award.”
Classic.