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Grading the Big 12: A&M Recruiting

Posted by Scipio Tex on February 10th, 2008 under Football, Recruiting

Texas A&M managed to sign 24 recruits despite circa signing day defections from four stars Kapron Lewis Moore (Notre Dame), Lamar Harris (OU), and Sedrick Johnson (Iowa Fucking State?) to complement earlier rejections from former commits Aundre Dean, Dravannti Johnson, Britt Mitchell and…and a partridge in a pear tree.

But this is College Station and Aggies are well fortified against the icy sting of rejection. They’ve lived in a world of recruiting cruelty since the Clinton Administration. Contrast their cool poise in the face of adversity compared to our Hell-hath-no-fury-like-a-Longhorn-scorned tantrum in what I like to delicately call The Unfortunate Darrell Scott Matter.

height=Still, the electric Mike Sherman inked a class and it’s worth a look. It’s a fascinating group primarily because so many of the best players have no clear cut position and it requires some imagination in projecting them.

Josh Ayers OL 6-5 285 He played TE for Euless Trinity in their jumbo power running game. He’s a college OT all of the way. Think Eric Winston lite. He’s athletic, has great feet, finishes on every play. I really like him as an OT project. Give him some time in the weight room. His offer list is shit, but I’d take him. Good get.

Eddie Brown DT 6-0 260 He’s listed at 6-2. He’s 6 feet even wearing six pairs of socks. Still, he’s a strong explosive kid with an ability to disrupt. Where though? His tweenerism is troubling. Dwight Freeney is the fashionable name to throw around whenever you get a speedy short DL, but there are more Schrutes than Freeneys in this world. Maybe he’s an interior DL playing a gap? Another trifling matter – he may not qualify. You’ll notice that this will be a recurring theme in this class.

Andrew Wolridge DE/LB 6-2 235 I like Wolridge. I really like him with his hand on the ground. The Aggies project him as a ILB/MLB, but that will take some adjustment for him – he’s just not fully comfortable standing up yet.

Aaron Buckley LB 6-1 225 He was the 3A Defensive Player of The Year at Palacios. Physical, great motor, mediocre speed. Weak ass competition. I like him as an inside LB, but you need to shield him from blockers and let him use his instincts. I question his size, but wouldn’t be shocked at all to see him turn into a reasonably productive D-1 guy.

Ricky Cavanaugh LB 6-2 215 Great first step and excellent quickness. He’s a classic A&M OLB circa 1990. Listed as a two star in Rivals and that’s an absolute travesty. Just like his transcript. He’ll likely play his football at Navarro Junior College next year.

Blake Chavis DE 6-5 230 I don’t see it at all. This guy is overdone. He has a weird following as an “underrated recruit.” Inexplicable. He’s probably also headed to JUCO, which is, in my estimation, a secret blessing for the Aggies. He doesn’t exactly fly off of the ball.

LeRoy Chevalier OL 6-6 325 Very physical. Strong as an ox. A load at the point of attack. Excellent motor and effort for a very big man. Good stuff there. The bad stuff? He has no bend, no flexion, it’s zombie blocking. He’ll be abused by quickness unless he starts an ashram yoga regimen pronto. He reminds me a lot of William Winston. If he’s willing to put in the work anything is possible. If he continues to eat and doesn’t jump rope for an hour every day, his primary function will be scaring people as he steps off of the bus.

Rod Davis DT 6-2 300 I like him. I wish we’d gotten him. He has a nice first step despite his size. A bull in a china shop. Some of the recruitniks are unimpressed with him – suggesting that either his film is completely deceptive or that they wouldn’t know quality interior DL play if it was mounted on their dick.

Tommy Dorman QB 6-3 205 Not Tommy Doormat. Damn solid QB. Dorman is very accurate, his mobility is adequate, his arm strength is there. His size is legitimate as well. The kid throws a nice ball. It takes about six plays to know he’s a legitimate upper tier Division I QB prospect. I find his bottom of the Top 100 in-state ranking somewhat surprising.

Adren Dorsey DT 6-4 295 Incomplete. The only footage I saw of him was at TE where his play was forgettable.

Terrence Frederick DB 5-10 170 Katy guy. What you’d expect: winner, plays hard, technically proficient, minimal upside, the definition of a two star.

Trent Hunter DB 5-10 190 Katy guy plus 20 pounds. See above. Rinse and repeat.

Jeff Fuller WR 6-4 202 Great measurables. He apparently played in a fairly retarded high school passing offense so his statistics and film are limited. What is apparent is a guy with a great body, hands, and adequate college speed. He’s clearly one of the top 3-4 WRs in the state and an obvious take for any major program.

Keon Furtch DB 6-2 180 More quick than fast, but he makes a lot of plays. He’ll have to play safety or Cover 2 cornerback and I think he’ll show better range there than his straight line speed would suggest. Reminds me of Anthony Arline from Baylor, if you remember him. Needs to get stronger.

Cyrus Gray RB 6-0 195 Tape makes me think of Russell Shepard…as a sophomore. Name makes me think of The Warriors. Can you dig it, suckas? Explosive guy with home run potential. All the way to Coney Island. Deceptive strength. He sheds a lot of tackles and runs through glancing blows and arms easily. So the Baseball Furies wouldn’t bother him. Is he a Reggie Bush NFL style change up back? A slot WR? Or does he get stronger and become a complete back like a Joe Addai? He’s a guy I’ll follow with interest. He should be a special teams stud.

Derrick Hall ATH 5-10 200 Michael Goodson speed. Juan Epstein academics. He’s comparable to Cyrus Gray, but without the production or evocative name. Speaking of – if he’s such a good football player – why hasn’t he produced more on football fields? I find that puzzling. Odds are we’ll learn the answer to that question when Blinn plays Navarro. Unless he has a cousin who looks like him that can rock the ACT.

Jeffrey Hyde OL 6-7 295 Awesome size. Good competitiveness. Horrendous competition. He should have gone to UCLA because goddamn he’s Wooden.

Tony Jerod DE 6-5 255 Don’t worry if there’s only one seat on the subway, Tony Jerod likes to stand. Straight up. That said, the motor and effort are there as is the frame and quickness. You’d be hard pressed to call him polished, technical, or even possessed of a single pass rushing move. Dude is raw. But who gives a shit – you take the great athlete and teach. Obvious take.

Chris Lathrop OL 6-4 290 The best guy on a very good high school OL. His other offers were Army and Navy. I’m not shitting you.

Kyle Mangan LB 6-2 225 He’s a guy you want to love as a football purist. Heart, effort, motor, hits with intent. He’s agile but not fast. Physical but not strong. A little bit country and a little bit rock n roll. His tape reminded me a lot of Reed Boyd when he was at New Braunfels Canyon.

Matt Moss DE 6-4 270 Squattier than his alleged height. Good first step. Solid build. Surprising quickness. He’s a JUCO so he should be physically ready to provide some depth in a place where the Aggies badly need it.

Brian Thomas OL 6-3 265 No. He’s having trouble getting push on 220 pound high school DL. He’s mobile and athletic, but you’d expect that for an undersized guy. I don’t know – maybe a redshirt and four years in a weight room yields something.

Joe Villavisencio OL 6-4 305 Well, one of his highlights includes him giving up a sack. Don’t worry, it got better. A little.

K.J. Williams ATH 6-4 235 Interesting. He’s a Norman, OK kid with a good frame and body. He’s not quick, but he’s totally relentless and plays with a great deal of effort. The Aggies are looking at converting him to TE and though none of his highlights feature him there, it doesn’t take a great deal of imagination to see it. I don’t think he’s going to be confused with Antonio Gates, but he can certainly at least approximate Joey Thomas.

My Top 10:

Cyrus Gray
Jeff Fuller
Rod Davis
Tommy Dorman
Tony Jerod
Derrick Hall*
Josh Ayers
Eddie Brown*
Andrew Wolridge
Matt Moss

* possible non-qualifier

Overall:

I like what the Aggies did on the DL and and they secured some impact players at the skill positions on offense. Fuller, Gray and the DL will all contribute early. OL and DB are fairly tragic as they’re relying on sleepers, projects, bodies, hope. That’s not a good thing, given that these are the two areas that are most at a premium in the Big 12. LB is adequate. If you throw in the academic uncertainty of 3-5 key players and the late decommits, A&M finishes with a B- recruiting class; probably 4th in the Big 12 overall.

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  1. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 1:37 am

    For how well this classes started, it sure did flame out down the home stretch. 7 of their best 10 players either defected or will be playing for a 2 year institution next year.

    As usual they ended up with 4-5 good players and a bunch of crap. Usually they back their way into a star but they didn’t really get one this year, unless you count the JUCO-bound Hall.

    I hope these kids can play though, because A&M is going to suck shit through a straw next year.

  2. EyesOfTX said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 8:07 am

    The weakness at OL in this class is a huge setback for their program, given that they’ve got squat coming back from last year’s OL. They needed kids who can play immediately from this class, and didn’t get them. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

    I’m thinking our coaching staff may actually be able to figure out a way to squeak past the 2009 Aggies.

  3. DBH said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 8:43 am

    Thank you for wading through the crap that is aTm recruiting to bring us this intel. I still can’t believe we found a way to lose to these mooks two years in a row.

  4. Objective Aggie said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am

    No need to be mean, fellas.

    I happen to agree with your assessments, this recruiting class had a great deal of potential since last February and failed to deliver for the most part. I am completely underwhelmed by our OL signings the past several years. Nonetheless, great intel estimate here, I think it’s spot on and largely corroborated by everything on the street at the A&M side, albeit without our beloved Aggie propaganda.

    Unfortunately, I also agree that A&M football will take some severe poundings to any quality opponents we face next year. I miss Gene Chizik already.

  5. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Mack’s teams never seem to play well against A&M for whatever reason, so it’s not like you guys will not have a chance. I think you could field a team of middle schoolers and still stay within 14 of us.

  6. Damn said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Dude loves recruiting if he knows this much about the Smaggies commits. Wow.

  7. Gary Pinkel said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    He’s the finest football mind outside of Missouri.

  8. The Major said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    That’s bullshit.

  9. RansomStoddard said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Only Mack Brown and Greg Davis could lose to aggy talent year after year.

  10. South 06 said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    “Thank you for wading through the crap that is aTm recruiting to bring us this intel. I still can’t believe we found a way to lose to these mooks two years in a row.”

    “Only Mack Brown and Greg Davis could lose to aggy talent year after year.”

    Our classes are consistently in the top 15. This year’s class is one spot behind Texas on Rivals. One spot ahead on a few recruiting boards.

    I’m confused by these two posts insinuating we don’t get good recruits.

  11. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    You don’t.

  12. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    I mean, you do, but not many.

  13. Scipio Tex said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    “This year’s class is one spot behind Texas on Rivals. One spot ahead on a few recruiting boards.”

    You’ve got to look at average per recruit. You’re confusing volume and market share. Also, two of your top 8 are grade risks, as is one of your most interesting sleepers (Cavanaugh).

  14. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Also, most of A&M’s recruits are the overrated leavings that nobody else wanted. Thus the disconnect from rankings to performance you find on certain guys.

  15. Bob Stoops said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    I laugh watchin you horns and ags pee on each other’s legs over recuits. The view from the BCS section is awesome, y’all should try it sometime.

  16. Scipio Tex said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    The view of watching your team get humiliated in another BCS game is awesome?

    Alright.

  17. Bob Stoops said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    touche’

    It beats fightin’ over 2 and 3 star recruits … those 2’s and 3’s are what we call “San” recruits. Recruit enough of em and you’ll end up in San Diego or San Antonio. snicker snicker

  18. Scipio Tex said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    You’ll find no debate from me on that point.

    But we’re not fighting much over those guys. You may be confusing Texas with Tulsa.

  19. South 06 said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Had to happen eventually. Barking Carnival became another internet pissing match where people would rather talk shit to people they will never meet than talk football.

    I don’t have the right to get angry about the content of an opposing team’s site that I visit, but I’m gonna leave you guys to it…

  20. Bob Stoops said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    As you’re probably aware, 4-5 stars can easily be coached down to the 2-3 star level come State Fair time. But, I digress.

  21. Scipio Tex said:

    February 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    South 06:

    I agree. Let’s talk content. I’m sure you’ve looked at your class. Where do you agree/disagree with my takes?

  22. dedfischer said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Scipio, could you break down Tech’s class? It shouldn’t take long.

  23. Other coaches said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    We’re in your signing day, stealing your commitz!

  24. mileslong said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    ill break down tech’s class for you:

    Offense:

    WR’s – bunch of small white guys with good hands, bunch of skinny, fast as shit black guys.

    QB – guy with weak arm who is accurate as hell.

    OL – bunch of fat hispanic guys

    TE – none, so advantage us

    RB – very small shifty guy

    Defense:

    All Positions – any other recruits that are left over from the other big 12 schools.

    Special Teams:

    PK – worst rated kicker in any high school in texas

    P – see above

  25. dedfischer said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Thanks.

  26. Manuel Ramirez said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    miles – I’d like to see you after class.

    I’ve had enough of this Detroit Longhorn shit too.

  27. South '06 said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Scipio,

    I don’t disagree with much actually. Your assesment is pretty spot on, as I have come to expect. I think you overrated Keon Furtch and underrated KJ Williams, but I’m on board with the rest of your opinions.

    It’s the comments afterwards that suggest we field a team of special olympics athletes and weasel out 7 or 8 wins. We are perennial underachievers. I won’t argue that. But I chose to believe it’s less about talent and more about coaching. Look at Tellus and tell me he won’t be a beast in a pro-style offense.

    My predictions in a nutshell: Gray will be a STUD on special teams. Fuller will be the first A&M receiver in a long time to have a legitimate first round shot (pending Sherman’s offense is what we would expect). Dorman is incredibly likeable and incredibly coachable, so I think he’ll be a solid QB. Cavanagh is my favorite pickup that nobody is talking about. Rod Davis and Tony Jerod will probably be 3-year starters.

    What I don’t like: Ho-hum OL. We lost 2 stud WR’s to OU and Iowa What-the-fuck-did-Chizik-pay-him State. Reactionary picks in the secondary, where we REALLY need help (here’s hoping some of our designated ATH picks can cover a Tech receiver).

    The comment wasn’t directed at you. I guess I just don’t wanna see this place become the “Rivals” section of Texags or Hornfans because I really enjoy talking football here.

  28. dedfischer said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    I don’t think Sedrick Johnson was as big a loss as you think. He’s allegedly a loooooooong ways from qualifying. Very good class, but doesn’t sound like several will qualify.

  29. HenryJames said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    The vast majority of these guys were Franchione’s so Sherman honored their commitments. Sherman then made it clear to the 2 class of 2009 commitments that they would be evaluated like any other player.

  30. Nordberg said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    06, some of those guys that you mentioned won’t be qualifying.

  31. McLovin said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    South – that OL is looking like a world of hurt. You really can’t afford any misses in the bodies you’ve got. ‘09 looks to be a good year, but even I’m surprised we’re about to take the top 3 (4 depending on your view on Kelley) off the board.

    Was Cavanaugh the best LB in the state last year? Maybe, but apparently his grade situation was so bleak no one even included him in the recruiting discussion. As a recruit, he becomes just marginally a part of the conversation if he’s not even going to get on campus for 2 years.

    Like the DL. Really like Dorman.

  32. Scipio Tex said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    South 06:

    “The comment wasn’t directed at you. I guess I just don’t wanna see this place become the “Rivals” section of Texags or Hornfans because I really enjoy talking football here.”

    We won’t. I want a good representation of smart fans from each school who can think and talk critically about their team. It adds a lot to the forum. I’ll put a grenade in Barking Carnival’s mouth and pull the pin if we ever just become a shit talking site.

    Unless the shit talking is extremely funny.

  33. ch said:

    February 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Cavanaugh only got offered because it appears he is now qualified. that was also the reason for his 2-star rating.

    staff is much more concerned about Eddie Brown, Derrick Hall. Add Tony Jerod to the qual list…there’s a reason Texas and USC backed off. he’s a fantastic athlete.

    Dorman highly underrated.

    if used properly there are enough OL in this class and on campus to be competitive the next 2 years. don’t count on depth or dominating OL blocking. good thing Jerod Johnson and Goodson and Gray all have ‘moves’….

    Fran’s reaction to Mack/Stoops was to offer early…really early. it worked, but it was obviously too early to tell if some of these OL were really good or not.

  34. dedfischer said:

    February 12th, 2008 at 5:09 am

    Overall, just from the film I watched, I thought the 2008 crop of Texas high school OL was much weaker than in 2007. Looks like 2009 could be a bumper crop, though.

  35. Scipio Tex said:

    February 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    dedfischer:

    I just plowed through all of the Rivals film last night along with some google searches on various kids which yielded some other good stuff. There is good OL depth. DL I’m not sure about past the 3-4 top guys.

    I think Jacob Karam would be a good fit at Tech. Weakish arm, but very accurate and extremely mobile.

  36. dedfischer said:

    February 12th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I think he’s an LSU lock, if they want him. There’s never any DL depth past the top 3-4 guys. The next best guys will come from the group that is 6′2″, 250 lbs and puts on 40 good lbs, but those guys are never rated highly and long shot projects. Hell, I would venture as far to say that outside of QB, DL has the highest propensity to bust. A guy that’s 6′3″, 290 lbs in high school can pretty much have his way with any OL he will face in high school. He gets to college and the guy across from him can actually stonewall him at the line, and then he realizes he doesn’t want to work quite as hard as he has to in order to make it. I saw Marcus Forston play Southlake this year and I had no idea until a week later when I was going through Rivals that he was the top DT in the country.

    OT and good news for both of us, I know some guys who have seen Landry Jones play in person and he sucks.

  37. South '06 said:

    February 14th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    We got Sedrick Johnson back. Not sure how, but the ISU LOI was void and he signed one with us.

    Just a quick update for those keeping up.

  38. HenryJames said:

    February 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Good. Now I’ll be able to use ‘The World According to Arp’ as a title.

  39. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 15th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Sedrick Johnson’s original LOI is ruled valid and the game of Pong goes to ISU. For now.

    http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7880703&nav=1TjF

  40. Spenser said:

    February 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    I like Dorman a lot. 4 year player in the Stephen Mcgee mold, very solid.

    Sherman seems to have his shit together. I’m impressed with his approach, though his staff leaves something to be desired. He needs to take advantage of our limited numbers this year, and I expect he will do so at OU’s expense.

  41. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 16th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I’m curious to see what offense they run. A west coast offense with McGee is going to be brutal. I want to see if he can adjust to the type of QB Fran preferred.

  42. Objective Aggie said:

    February 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Any approach Sherman uses on offense will fail without an option component to it. We have used the option as a means to conceal inferior offensive lines for years and it plays straight to McGee’s true identity as a Scotch-Irish warrior poet. He’s way better at taking hits than actually reading the field. If it isn’t there on his first read he is on his way out of the pocket.

    Frankly, I don’t think the man will be able to execute (or more to the point, the players won’t adjust quickly to his scheme) and the first year under Sherm will be one disaster after another. I look at the guy and see Bill Callahan in a more comely shade of red.

  43. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 16th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Boy you are objective. Bravo.

    I agree. I can’t see the kind of offense Sherman ran in GB working with McGee, and an OL that can’t pass block. Oh, and no decent WR.

    The good news is, there is no way Sherman is so stupid to try it, so I assume he’ll come in with the same spread option everyone else uses. I’m just curious to see how Callahan like he is in regard to his loyalty to the forward pass.

  44. Objective Aggie said:

    February 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Thanks Applewhite. I don’t fit in well with the Texags crowd as a result.

    Looking forward to your next posts. May we expect a similar breakdown of the rest of the Big XII South?

  45. ChrisApplewhite said:

    February 17th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    If I can think of anything to say. You graduated pretty much every player I was familiar with.

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  • Raoul Duke commented on the blog post Bid Dance: Day Three   5 hours, 4 minutes ago

    Tough day for Sherron on O and D.

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  • GoHornsGo90 commented on the blog post Bradley or Hamilton?   5 hours, 48 minutes ago

    To leave or stay?

  • Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   5 hours, 49 minutes ago

    KSU moving on led by a hot shooting Pullen. BTW, White Mormons can shoot FTs. 22 for 25, I think. Imagine if we could shoot like that.

    Wake’s coming back on Kentucky. They’re within 25 right now…..

  • Trips Right commented on the blog post Bid Dance: Day Three   6 hours, 7 minutes ago

    Just wanted to say I feel for you guys. As a Texas fan I know how this feels even if it’s from a football perspective.

    I still think you’re the best basketball team in the country, and unfortunately you ran into a team that packed a Villanova circa 1985 type game today. Meaning they

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  • ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   6 hours, 17 minutes ago

    Wow. Wake won’t break 50. Not surprising really — we should have beaten Wake and they are not a very good team.

  • Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   6 hours, 22 minutes ago

    Kentucky doing their best to beat Wake by half hundred. Close call….

  • RRR wrote a new blog post: Survive and Advance   6 hours, 26 minutes ago

    We really struggled in the first half, but battled through it to get a tough win against Jacksonville.  On to Oxford!

     Forget what conference they play in, Jacksonville is a very good basketball team, and they got to Lubbock not because of a crazy bank shot at the buzzer in Phoenix, but by playing aggressive, intense defense for

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  • ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   6 hours, 44 minutes ago

    The shamrock is on his left shoulder. The Griffin looking thing is on his right.

  • ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   6 hours, 52 minutes ago

    Everytime I see a Gumbel brother I think of “Gumbel to Gumbel”

  • Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   7 hours, 5 minutes ago

    Kentucky starting to pile on Wake. That would have been our fate…..

    KSU just killing the Mormons on the glass…

  • Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   7 hours, 33 minutes ago

    10 point lead for the Mormons again…

  • ghostofagroundgame commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   7 hours, 47 minutes ago

    This is the first-time Frank Martin has ever met a Mormon who wasn’t on a bicycle.

  • Patrick Bateman commented on the blog post NCAA Tournament Open Thread: Weekend Edition   7 hours, 52 minutes ago

    Does that mean he gets to pick his wives first???